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Chuck guest characters: who would be the most welcomed back?
I made a list of all the guest characters (with remarkable speaking roles and personalities, not just the henchmen of the week) appeared during the show's three seasons, in order to choose the ones we would most like to see again in S4. I left out all the dead ones, I don't want to speculate about the chances they are not really dead, as this would involve a more complex plot twist than just having a living character back in action. Let's just assume the dead ones are really dead, and focus on the living ones (otherwise, it will be all about Stephen Bartowski and Bryce Larkin, no chances ). I’m also not covering the ones with a storyline still going on as of the S3 finale, like Alex and Kathleen. They should be meant to be back somehow anyway.
I will comment on each, giving my personal ratings to how much I would like to see the character back, but if you want we can have a poll to see which are the most wanted ones. We can choose 3 characters each, in order of preference, then award, I don't know, 5 points to each first choice, 3 to each second choice, and 1 to each third choice, and make a chart. Let me know what do you think about that. Let's roll. EDIT: Added Mitt and Scooter. Numbered the entries. Note: the characters are divided into 3 categories (The Bad Guys/The Spy World/Outside The Spy World), starting each group with the most appeared ones, then proceeeding in chronological order by last episode's appearance. THE BAD GUYS 1. Daniel Shaw (Brandon Routh) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Ring: Part II Notes: His role was so crucial in S3 that just the fact he was left alive at the end could well indicate it will come back somehow. But will they really want or need to bring back the most hated (and not in a good way) character of the show, if not in this year's whole TV? I’m still disgusted that Sarah felt the urge to kiss this guy. Twice! I would have preferred to see her going full submissive with Jeff. (Well, actually that would be worth seeing. ) Wanted Rating: Null 2. Justin Sullivan (Scott Holroyd) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Ring: Part II Notes: It turns up he’s the villain who did the most appearances in the series (with Shaw counting as a villain only in the end). Still I find him a little blah. Wanted Rating: Low 3. Jill Roberts (Jordana Brewster) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the First Kill Notes: Just she being around and free can justify the coming back, and to have her see how happy is Chuck now with Sarah can account for an interesting dynamic. Then again, maybe not. Just remember Chuck never really chose Sarah over her, their romance was cut short when Chuck discovered she was a Fulcrum operative. What if she was just a biologist instead, when they got back in touch? Better leave this thought alone, too scary. Wanted Rating: Low 4. The Ring Director (Mark Sheppard) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Other Guy Notes: I always love to see Mark Sheppard doing his sardonic villain routine, and he was just a perfect choice for a show like Chuck. Unfortunately, with the damned Shaw’s arc still ongoing he got to do very few scenes, although quite stole them all. Yet the role of the Director was never fully explained, so it would make sense for him to return. And escaping CIA facilities has always been quite easy on Chuck. Wanted Rating: Very High 5. Tommy Delgado (Anthony Ruivivar) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Nemesis Notes: The first Fulcrum operative of the show, and sorta buddy with Bryce. Very strong face, I always thought he deserved more screen time. Then again, Bryce’s dead, Roark’s dead, Fulcrum’s dead, what purpose should Tommy’s comeback have? Wanted Rating: Null 6. Dr. Jonas Zarnow (John Fleck) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Helicopter Notes: The first true bad guy of the show! Nostalgic. But nothing more. Wanted Rating: Null 7. Malena “La Ciudad” Bernal (Lorena Bernal) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Tango Notes: And she was the first femme fatale. Not quite memorable, though. Maybe it was Sarah’s red dress who stole all my attention far from her. Wanted Rating: Null 8. Peyman Alahi (Iqbal Theba) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Wookiee Notes: The wookiee himself! This guy was enough fun, but still not worth a second round. Wanted Rating: Null 9. Ben Lo Pan (James Hong) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Sizzling Shrimp Notes: James Hong is much of an icon, but this character was just the Chuck version of Big Trouble in Little China’s Lo Pan, but without the magical powers. Too little to be worth a return. Wanted Rating: Null 10. Riordan Payne (Kevin Weisman) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Truth Notes: Athletic poisoner with a strong face, but too little of a personality to come back. Wanted Rating: Null 11. Stavros Demetrios (Theo Alexander) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Imported Hard Salami Notes: Lou’s former boyfriend. Dp we really need to see him again? Wanted Rating: Null 12. Lon Kirk (Michael Wiseman) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Crown Vic Notes: We never saw what happened to Kirk after he launched that missile which ends up destroying Casey’s car. I actually can sleep without knowing it. Wanted Rating: Null 13. Victor Federov (Pavel Lychnikoff) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Undercover Lover Notes: A lot of the names in this category amounted to funny characters with solid performers, but almost all of them exhausted their roles in the episode in which they showed up. So it is for this charming Russian mobster engaged to Ilsa. Wanted Rating: Null 14. Mr. Colt (Michael Clarke Duncan) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the First Date Notes: This is arguably my favorite Chuck’s villain ever. Maybe it’s because First Date was so light and heartwarming fun, with so many great Chuck/Sarah interactions, and Michael Clarke Duncan, who can’t never be too much of a truly evil guy himself, was the perfect foe for the occasion. Or because he ended up being a Carmichael’s fan. But I really would like to see him again, even if the reasons to bring him back are flimsy. Maybe by turning him in an impromptu ally of sorts? Wanted Rating: High 15. Sasha Banicheck (Melinda Clarke) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Seduction Notes: A boosted version of La Ciudad. Melinda Clarke was very good, but I don’t feel very much need to see this character again. Wanted Rating: Very Low 16. Von Hayes (Steve Valentine) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Break-Up Notes: Party animal millionaire who was more unlikely as a software tycoon than as a spy-related trafficker. It played well opposite Chuck (but it was the old early S2 Chuck). It could be fun see him again, but not very probable. Wanted Rating: Low 17. Heather Chandler (Nicole Richie) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Cougars Notes: She was the opponent in one of the most memorable Sarah’s fight scenes. And she was part of Sarah’s backstory, but I don’t think there’s too much room for a comeback here. Wanted Rating: Low 18. Leader (Patrick Kilpatrick) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Gravitron Notes: Last time we see him, he was heavily tackled by Big Mike. He also got the less creative codename ever. And he was Jill’s buddy. Nuff said. Wanted Rating: Null 19. Ty Bennett (Carl Lumbly) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Sensei Notes: Actually this got some chances to come back, as he’s related to Casey’s past, even more now that we know he was linked to the late James Keller, so I can see a storyline involving him, Casey and family. But Lumbly was so stiff here I really don’t need him to come back. Wanted Rating: Very Low 20. Sheik Rajiv Ahmad (Anthony Azizi) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the DeLorean Notes: Quite fun, but he can come back only attached to a new Jack Burton’s comeback, and I truly hope we will see Jack Burton within a whole new storyline rather than “the sheik’s revenge”. Wanted Rating: Null 21. Nathan “Ned” Rhyerson (Jed Rees) Last Seen: Chuck Versus Santa Claus Notes: The weirdest Fulcrum operative ever. There’s actually room to develop him a little more (was he really a small-time crook hired by Fulcrum, or a full trained operative posing as the poor chap?), but do someone really cares? Wanted Rating: Low 22. Smooth Lau (Jennifer Jalene) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Best Friend Notes: Another good fighting partner for Sarah. Otherwise useless. Wanted Rating: Null 23. Jason Wang (Jack Yang) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Best Friend Notes: Anna’s former boyfriend. Now Anna's gone, why in the hell should this guy ever come back? Wanted Rating: Null 24. Dr. Mohammed Zamir (Shaun Toub) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Broken Heart Notes: The scene with an inebriated Zamir fraternizing with Chuck was hilarious, but I don’t see him coming back for another shot. Wanted Rating: Low 25. Karl Stromberg (Vinnie Jones) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Three Words Notes: Jones pulled a very solid performance here, and the heart-broken love-craving killer got some potential for a return, maybe seeking vengeance on Carina. Wanted Rating: Medium 26. Jack Artman (Andrew Connolly) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Angel de la Muerte Notes: Master poisoner and Casey fan is a good combination, but not so much for a comeback, being little more than henchman of the week. He’s the one that kidnapped Awesome, though. Wanted Rating: Low 27. Sydney Prince (Angie Harmon) Last Seen: Chuck Versus Operation Awesome Notes: Awesome’s handler during his brief spy career. Wikipedia says she’s still alive, but I don’t know how this news would affect me. Wanted Rating: Null 28. Hugo Panzer ("Stone Cold" Steve Austin) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the First Class Notes: Surely it was fun to have Chuck fencing with a professional wrestler, but is there a need to do it again? Although surely Hugo was a fun character. Wanted Rating: Low 29. Juan Diego Arnaldo (Carlos Lacamara) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Honeymooners Notes: He was not really a bad guy. And he was a sort of couple therapist for Chuck and Sarah. Maybe he will be invited to the wedding. Wanted Rating: Very Low 30. Otto von Vogel (Udo Kier) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Role Models Notes: How it’s possible to NOT want another bit of Udo Kier and his majestic tiger in the show? If they have to bring an old villain back just for the sake of it, Otto should be definitely taken into consideration. Wanted Rating: High 31. Dr. Martin Kowambe (Allan Louis) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Tooth Notes: Just because he was involved in that Ring regeneration thing, so if you want Orion back, it’s possible you have to take this one too. Not so excited about that. Wanted Rating: Low THE SPY WORLD 32. Carina Miller (Mini Anden) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Three Words Notes: Carina is great, but she already had a comeback, I would prefer for her to leave room to someone else. She would be definitely needed in a proper series finale, though. Wanted Rating: Medium 33. Cole Barker (Jonathan Cake) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Lethal Weapon Notes: This was truly da man. Best love interest ever. Maybe because Sarah never really clicked with him, so it was absolutely fun to see all the interactions between the two of them and Chuck (and the bickering during the undercover party, with The Puppini Sisters’ Walking Like an Egyptian playing over, is one of my favorite scenes of the show). Or maybe it’s because Cole was probably the close thing to a friend Chuck got himself in the spy world (besides his handlers). Or maybe because Cole truly respected him. All in all, Cole Barker rocks, and I truly hope they can find a way to have him back, causing a little of a lighthearted tension inside our couple. Wanted Rating: Highest 34. Mei-Ling Cho (Gwendoline Yeo) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Sizzling Shrimp Notes: Chinese secret agent. Nothing more to be said about her, unfortunately. Wanted Rating: Very Low 35. Lazslo Manhovski (Jonathan Sadowski) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Sandworm Notes: He was probably the first one-time character to really impress, even thanks to the great performance by Sadowski. With him being a sort of Chuck gone wrong, it should be good to see him again. Wanted Rating: High 36. Ilsa Trinchina (Ivana Milicevic) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Undercover Lover Notes: She was charming, Milicevic was very good, so why not raise the stakes on Casey’s life making him to choose between her and Kathleen? Wanted Rating: High 37. Roan Montgomery (John Larroquette) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Seduction Notes: Larroquette was superb, and Roan Montgomery was one of the first to see clearly through Chuck and Sarah’s wall of denial. If you have to bring back a spy from past seasons (not being Cole or zombie-Bryce), please bring back Roan! Wanted Rating: Very High 38. Alex Forrest (Tricia Helfer) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Broken Heart Notes: Tricia Helfer did not truly work for me, neither the character or the performance. You had to assume in order to evaluate a good agent it should be needed a better agent, but Forrest was not just cold and heartless as the plot requested her to be, she seemed plain incompetent, she keeps doing the most stupid mistakes. Definitely I don’t need to see her ever again. Wanted Rating: Null 39. Craig and Laura Turner (Fred Willard and Swoosie Kurtz) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Role Models Notes: I enjoyed Role Models, and usually love both Willard and Kurtz, but for some reason the Turners did not really get me. “I'm just saying they're not that great.” Wanted Rating: Low 40. Dr. Leo Dreyfus (Christopher Lloyd) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Tooth Notes: We definitely need more Doc Brown on Chuck. But I’m going to assume he will surely make a comeback in S4, being Chuck’s official shrink and a very recent occurrence. It’s unlikely they will not go there again at least once. Wanted Rating: High OUTSIDE THE SPY WORLD 41. Anna Wu (Julia Ling) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Tooth Notes: She already made her (not so brilliant) comeback, so I feel there’s no more need for resolution with her character. If they will get the chance to do a proper series finale one day, maybe she can have a cameo there, as the only former regular character that has been written off. Wanted Rating: Very Low 42. Harry Tang (C.S. Lee) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Truth Notes: Barring C.S. Lee’s busy schedule, it would be fitting to have some more resolution with Harry Tang. He was written off too rushedly in S1 (due to C.S. Lee’s busy schedule indeed). A comeback like Anna’s would fill well a subplot of the week. Then again, it’s not so necessary, the character never had the time to really develop. Wanted Rating: Low 43. Hannah (Kristin Kreuk) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Fake Name Notes: Ah, the dreaded love interest! Kristin Kreuk was actually sweet and showed a fair amount of chemistry with Zac Levi, even if the timing of her appearance in the series was probably not the best one. But I feel we're done with her, anyway. Wanted Rating: Null 44. Lou Palone (Rachel Bilson) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Imported Hard Salami Notes: Same as above. Even if she should still work near the (late) Buy More. Maybe the Food and Drug Administration managed to have her deli closed in the end. Wanted Rating: Null 45. Dr. Woody Woodcomb (Bruce Boxleitner) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Ring Notes: Colonel Awesome. Always fun to raise the awesomeness level of the show. Wanted Rating: High 46. Dr. Honey Woodcomb (Morgan Fairchild) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Ring Notes: Doctor Super-Fantastic Female White Person. See above. Wanted Rating: High 47. Scooter (Chris Dotson) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Truth Notes: Wienerlicious manager, the Harry Tang of Sarah. Never really got much screen time, and the Wienerlicious is just a memory now. Wanted Rating: Null 48. Mitt (Michael Strahan) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Break-Up Notes: The Madden-loving jock from the sporting goods store who terrorized Morgan and was beaten up by Anna. I feel he reached his purpose. Wanted Rating: Null 49. Mark Ratner (Ben Savage) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Cougars Notes: Ben Savage was good, but I don’t really see the point of bring back this character, if not in that type of special celebration episode (like the 100th episode), where a lot of past guest stars make cameo appearances just for the fun of it. Wanted Rating: Null 50. Jack Burton (Gary Cole) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the DeLorean Notes: Now, this is probably a winner of the poll, not just because it’s an essential character and the only one truly linked to Sarah’s backstory so far. Gary Cole was charming as ever, and one of the better used Chuck's guest stars ever, with a lot to do and a lot of fun and emotional resonance. Definitely he HAS to come back, hopefully not just in some late game marriage episode where he just shows up in order to take Sarah to the altar. Wanted Rating: Highest 51. Big Al (Reginald VelJohnson) Last Seen: Chuck Versus Santa Claus Notes: Big Mike’s cop cousin. The pairing is at the risk of cheesiness, but to bring him back for another round is a totally “why not” situation. Also, with the family link, it’s very easy. Wanted Rating: Medium 52. Tyler Martin (Dominic Monaghan) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Third Dimension Notes: Granted, it’s not the most useful character to bring back, and he already had a good resolution, but Dominic Monaghan was perfect and worked wonderfully with Zachary Levi. To think of those times when they used to bring this level of guests in the show makes me even sadder at the idea we had spent 10 full episodes with Brandon “stiff as a board” Routh. I know Tyler will probably never come back, but I would truly enjoy some more stoned rockstar shenanigans just for fun. Wanted Rating: Very High 53. Alejandro Goya (Armand Assante) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Angel de la Muerte Notes: Another great actor, his guest marked probably the last time S3 was truly S2-funny until Honeymooners. Just for that it would be nice to see him again, but another involvement with a Costa Gravas affair would be contrived. Not likely to be. Wanted Rating: Medium 54. Manoosh Depak (Fahim Anwar) Last Seen: Chuck Versus the Nacho Sampler Notes: This actor is not very known, but he did a great job with Manoosh, and worked very well with both Zac and Yvonne (he got to do one of the sexiest scenes with Sarah ever, not even Chuck himself has got that lucky so far!). Besides, I would be happy to see Chuck somehow correct the wrong he did with him being burned, probably the worst thing Chuck ever did to someone else, since he did not really kill Shaw in the end. And Manoosh was nearly innocent, and so much like him. I would like to see him and Lazslo in the same comeback episode, there could be an interesting theme here. Wanted Rating: High Last edited by K-42; 07-22-2010 at 11:22 AM |
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You forgot Michael Strahan, who played the jock who took over the theater room in Break-Up.
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Without a doubt, Gary Cole as Jack Burton tops my list (if we're not considering Mekenna Melvin as Alex). The others I'd really like to see back, off the top of my head: Mini Anden as Carina - Because she interjected so much into the CS plot both times she appeared. Plus I really want to learn more about her history with Casey. Mark Sheppard as Ring Director - Because he plays such a great villain. Jordana Brewster as Jill - I want her back JUST so we can see Sarah put the hurt on her. Sarah needs to make good on her threat to Jill regarding hurting Chuck. Fahim Anwar as Manoosh Depak - He was a fun character, and Team B needs their own version of Q. Why not Manoosh? Carl Lumbly as Ty Bennett - I always liked him in Alias, and more episodes with Casey backstory is always good. |
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You want Jill back so Sarah can kill her, basically! ("Kill Jill", it can be a fun movie parody ). Actually, a storyline with Sarah actually ending to kill her would be very interesting, it would be the way to put some (temporary) distance between Chuck and Sarah, a little angst-filled arc. Then again, maybe not. I like my Hart to Hart-ish Chuck & Sarah better. Quote:
BTW, turning him in a villain due to what the government did to him can also be interesting, it will force everyone in charge to reconsider the whole asset handling thing, if they are so prone to become mad scientists/super villains. Last edited by K-42; 07-07-2010 at 08:47 AM |
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Even on-screen I still think some CS scenes have been sexier than the Manoosh scene, even if Sarah wasn't as scantily dressed. Not to mention that she WAS just as scantily dressed in the shower scene in Fat Lady, and that was sexy as hell.
I'd love to see a Kill Jill parody. Not sure I actually want to see Sarah kill Jill, just beat the crap out of her. And as far as angst between Chuck and Sarah over it, I don't want to see that, even temporarily. If Jill were to return, I'd rather see Chuck also peaved about it and belligerent toward Jill this time. I don't think Manoosh would make a good villain. He just wouldn't be convincing, IMO. But he'd be very good I think in a role similar to Kevin Weisman's in Alias. It might be a stretch, but I could see him coming to understand why Chuck did what he did, and going to work with them. Maybe, Chuck decides he needs added technical expertise for his Orion missions, and frees Manoosh somehow in exchange for Manoosh helping him without the gov't knowing. Not sure how that would play, but ... ? |
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And while she wasn't trying to arouse him when they got in the shower, by the end of that (just before they got out) they were starting to get aroused and it was no longer about the poison. Sarah never had to try to seduce Chuck (except somewhat in the pilot) like she did Manoosh or Cole. And those were both very sexy scenes to be sure. But to me, the sexiness in as much in the facial expressions and reactions as in the clothing or lack of. But you are right - sexy is very subjective, and we can have different ideas of what makes sexy. Quote:
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Red dress: she was meant to be dressed for a luxury night event, she was gorgeous and obviously she knew that, but it was not the purpose of the mission to arouse every man (and some woman) around her. That's what I mean with "not actively sexy". And an important point is the difference between when a character is actively sexy to another character, or when it is the show winking at us (what can be called "fan service", in the most negative cases). Again, in Tango, it's the show thinking at the male demographics (thanks, show!) when they just go "let's dress up Yvonne with this gorgeous red dress, so she will be stunning in the scenes". And this is being "not actively (yet consciously) sexy towards the audience" (or at least, not so much actively). Next step is: "let's have her dress lift up during the fighting scene with the MI6 agents". And this is being "very much actively sexy towards the audience", but not towards the characters: she's not trying to arouse those MI6 agents. It's not so fan service-y to me (well, maybe just a little) because it's always done jokingly, for the comedic purposes of making fun of all the Bond-style clichés with the sexy spy lady. But this is the intellectual reaction. The emotional reaction is, it's arousing. So, shower: that was the show very very actively trying to arousing its male demographics. But also doing a good comedic/romantic scene. Quote:
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Honestly, I don't need Jill back, and I'd be just fine without her ever coming back. I just love the idea of Sarah kicking Jill's butt, and that's the ONLY reason I'd want her to return.
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So, back to the thread. We are scarying away other posters.
I just read this Yvonne's interview (dating back to 3x13): 'Sarah' shares her feelings about 'Chuck': Yvonne Strahovski speaks - The Watcher. This line: Quote:
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But the regulars on this board don't scare off easily. I really do hope that Papa Burton returns in S4. And I want to see something about her mother, too. Last edited by weejad; 07-08-2010 at 10:36 AM |
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PAPA BURTON! Honestly, he needs to come back!
Carina would be great to have back. And now that CS are actually together, I would love to have Jill back. __________________
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I want Jill back. Next to Bryce, she's the one with the most history and attachment with Chuck from the past. I don't necessarily want her back as a love interest, but the history, both the recent and Stanford history makes any story with Jill interesting to me... on paper.
I think Jordana can do more with Jill... that's really my only issue. (also adding this as the Guest stars thread on the board guide.) __________________
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OMG how did I thought get say Bryce. If he came back, even if it's just for flashbacks I would love it. I really want to know 1) Sarah's backstory with Bryce, 2) Sarah's backstory with Carina, and 3) anything with Papa Burton.
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