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Old 01-30-2014, 04:20 PM
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This moment always bothers me. Bud, a recovering alcoholic, offers his seventeen-year-old son (who -- at this time in the series -- is his genetic child) a beer to cope with anger. Bud should've thought, "Gee, maybe offering my son alcohol to tamp down his feelings isn't the best idea." Talk about helping his kid to follow in his footsteps.

Not only that, but Bud also takes Hyde to a nudie bar. So he liquors his kid up, takes him to a place where women are considered less than human -- all to manipulate Hyde to move in with him and pay his rent. Red is so right when he says Bud "isn't good".
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:09 AM
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Huh, I never thought about that. Would you say that Bud's to blame for the drinking that Hyde did later on?
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Old 01-31-2014, 05:22 PM
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Hyde's the child of two alcoholics. Before S7, he was genetically related to Bud, so Hyde's DNA was against him. The events of his life catalyzed his predisposition toward alcoholism. He's someone who really shouldn't be drinking, especially because he usually drinks with the sole purpose to get drunk.
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Yes, I agree.
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Old 02-01-2014, 11:52 PM
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Bud doesn't know, nor does he really want to know how to be a father. He'd rather be Hyde's friend. Sometimes, people just aren't cut out to be parents. More than likely, this was a learned behavior from his own father.
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Old 02-02-2014, 01:50 AM
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Bud doesn't know how to be a father, I totally agree. Red tried to help him out, but in the end, Bud was Bud.
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Old 02-02-2014, 07:45 AM
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Bud doesn't know, nor does he really want to know how to be a father. He'd rather be Hyde's friend. Sometimes, people just aren't cut out to be parents. More than likely, this was a learned behavior from his own father.
My head!canon is that Bud's father was a bastard. There's a reason Bud went by "Bud" and not "Steven" (I also accept Hyde as a third). And Hyde never liked going by "Steven" either.

Then again, Bud could've just wanted to have his own name, regardless.
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Old 02-02-2014, 08:27 PM
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It does seem like Bud didn't have a good father figure either. That is why he didn't know what to do with Steven.
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Hyde's the child of two alcoholics. Before S7, he was genetically related to Bud, so Hyde's DNA was against him. The events of his life catalyzed his predisposition toward alcoholism. He's someone who really shouldn't be drinking, especially because he usually drinks with the sole purpose to get drunk.
Interesting. I think Bud gave him beer when he was a kid so I can see why Hyde used alcohol to deal with his problems like passing out in a beer warehouse instead of talking to his girlfriend. Hyde probably shouldn't be drinking because he could develop a serious problem like in your last story Hyde did have a drinking problem. I just remembered that Hyde from S8 had a serious drinking problem.
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Interesting. I think Bud gave him beer when he was a kid so I can see why Hyde used alcohol to deal with his problems like passing out in a beer warehouse instead of talking to his girlfriend.
Ooh, that's an interesting connection. Yeah. Hyde drinking scares me a bit, I have to admit. It's not just recreational for him.

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Hyde probably shouldn't be drinking because he could develop a serious problem like in your last story Hyde did have a drinking problem. I just remembered that Hyde from S8 had a serious drinking problem.
Hyde in S8 became a drunk. He wasn't just flirting with alcoholism anymore.
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I hated that they did that to his character in season 8. I have to agree with you Lisa, Hyde drinking makes me a bit nervous too, especially with his parents.
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I hated that they did that to his character in season 8. I have to agree with you Lisa, Hyde drinking makes me a bit nervous too, especially with his parents.
Unlike the show, I can't write Hyde's proto-alcoholism as if it's a punchline. He's so much better than his parents (Edna and Bud), kind-hearted, protective of the vulnerable, and self-sacrificing. When alcohol comes into the picture for him, it brings his painful childhood along with it.
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I agree with you Lisa. Hyde's pro alcoholism shouldn't be written as a punchline. He was shown to be a lot better than that.
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I agree with you Lisa. Hyde's pro alcoholism shouldn't be written as a punchline. He was shown to be a lot better than that.
The show treated alcoholism properly during S1-S4, but once Kitty used alcohol to "cope" with menopause, that went
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Are there any GOOD fan fics out there that deal with the alcoholism issues with Hyde? I feel like I read one once, but for the life of me I can't think of the titled.
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