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loveslullaby 12-11-2016 03:25 AM

Bad Girls (Val/Tiffani) #10: "You’ve got the money, looks, the attitude."- Clare
credit to: Laura

Welcome to the 10th Valerie Malone&Tiffani Thiessen thread!

"It's much more interesting to play the bitch."

"The fact that Valerie was a conniving bitch really attracted me to the role."

"I was never clean, prissy and perfect like Kelly, and I was never a pot-smoking **** like Valerie. Kelly was the cheerleader and the perfect girl next door, and being that I grew up in the business, I never went to school. I was never a cheerleader. I never went to the prom. I didn't have any of those experiences."

"In this business, you've got to take a lot of rejection-and you can't take it personally. If you're not chosen, you're either not ready or not right for it. My mom used to tell me that a quitter never wins, and a winner never quits. And that's something I've always gone by."

"I'm a very spiritual person and to know that now women are able to do just as much as men is really great. Working for myself and being young and being a woman, I can finally get respect from people. I mean, I've got my own house, I've got my career set - nobody can tell me I can't do it."

"Honestly, I enjoy food. And I'm never going to be stick thin like Kate Moss. But, I don't eat like a pig."

"I like playing Valerie. She's a chameleon. One moment she's charming and the next she's a 'you know what'. I like her because she's so two-sided - she's two different characters in one."

"The ultimate schemer. Made a great debut on "90210" by acting like a small town rube and ending the episode smoking a joint and telling a friend that the Beverly gang was a bunch of avocado heads. Really did not have any trick that was too nefarious to pull. Fake a pregnancy and abortion, check. Fake her friend robbing people so she could catch her and be a hero, check. Sleep with everyone and their brother, check. That about sums it up."- Newsday

"When I first went in to meet with Aaron, he to me that this was gonna be like when Heather Locklear came onto 'Melrose Place'. They wanted to have a bad girl of 90210."

"You know, she did her first scene in her underwear and I said 'Okay, I can work with this girl'."- Luke Perry

"She’s pretty street smart. She’s been around the block a few times. Probably a good hundred and twenty times. So I had both sides of her. You know, her being nice and her being mean. That kind of thing. I mean, she’s definitely a fulfilling character." (On Valerie)

''Playing a bitch is much more fun than playing a nice girl. Everyone knows that."

"On my campus, Valerie is the vixen to watch."- Entertainment Weekly

"At first, I did all my interviews, and it was always, 'How do you feel about replacing Shannen Doherty?' It was hard. I wasn't replacing anybody."

"We wanted a baaad girl. There was really an edge with Tiffani because she was so sexual. In her first episode, she [smoked] some pot. We were making a statement there."- Charles Rosin

"They wanted me to roll a joint with one hand so I looked like some kind of pro. I couldn't do it. The person you see is actually somebody else's hand rolling a joint."

"Valerie Malone of Beverly Hills, 90210, the dope-smoking, boyfriend-stealing, cleavage-revealing successor to Shannen Doherty's Brenda Walsh."- Entertainment Weekly

"She loves to piss people off." (On Valerie)

"Valerie's described as a chameleon. She's totally different from scene to scene and from one person to the next. They haven't said if she's mentally imbalanced yet. But that's how she feels safe. It's the only way she knows."

"She was a total two-faced character and we really hadn’t had anyone like that on the show. We brought in the character and it totally helped lift the show up a bit for a while." - Larry Mollin

the s h i p p e r s
01.) Mio
02.) Hell on Heels
03.) satisfy the crave
04.) natehaley23
05.) billy(L)
06.) Browneyes1980
07.) *Stacy*
08.) Jordan23
09.) goodbreakingbad
10.) hearts that kill
11.) daritah
12.) Gracie
13.) loveslullaby
14.) Moonlight~Pixie
15.) angel_wings05
16.) playgroundDiaries
17.) xxlisaxx
18.) Dreamer 4 Ever
19.) issa
20.) StubbornWhite
21.) Hermione Granger
22.) charmingbrenda
23.) soul_junkie
24.) ~carnival-heights~
25.) brendadylan1984
26.) yulan
27.) Scarlet's Walk
28.) Kelly_Dylan
29.) DefLeppardFan
30.) mrs.scott
31.) donnaanddavidx3
32.) claudypritz
33.) Nikkycoly
34.) Rachel2091
35.) Vixen in Violet
36.) BreanBamonFan
37.) KellynDylanForever
38.) Sydney Collins
39.) roselynconnection
40.) macy misa
41.) KatMode
42.) ChinaTequilia
43.) DonnaMartinGraduates!
44.) BlackWhiteRose
45.) Always Choose You
46.) Millie May

the s o u n d t r a c k
01. "Bitch," by Meredith Brooks
02. "Maneater," by Hall & Oates
03. "Reflections," by Christina Augilera
04. "Valerie," by The Zutons
05. "Paper Bag," by Fiona Apple
06. "The Child Is Gone," by Fiona Apple

the q u o t e s
season f i v e
Valerie: The Walshes…they’re harmless. I’m sure everything will be cool as long as they don’t try to pull any parental trips on me. But if they do, you know me; I’ll just put on a happy face and dance."

Valerie: I want a man to ache for me.
Dylan: Well, I’m achin’.
Valerie: Not yet you’re not.

Dylan: You’re Valerie?
Valerie: Ah, good new travels fast.

Dylan: Listen to you? You are a bad girl.
Valerie: Oh, it depends on who you talk to.

Valerie: I’ve sworn of off cigarettes, liquor, pot, everything.
Dylan: Having sex?
Valerie: Well, this week anyway.
Dylan: Well, I guess we really have to talk.

Steve: The empress is definitely cutting edge this time.

Valerie: You know, people overestimate the value of a college education. You’re much smarter than I thought.
Ray: You’re far more vicious.

Dylan: What did you say to Jones?
Valerie: No much. I just kind of smiled and his wallet kind of flew open.
Dylan: I’m not a hooker, and even if I was, you couldn’t afford me.

Jonesy: This little sweetie pie of yours better be up to major league ball or there’s gonna be a delay of game.
Dylan: Don’t you worry about my girl, Val. She’s a player.

Dylan: You’ve been incredible, Val.

Dylan: Look, thanks for coming.
Valerie: No problem. It’ll be fun.
Dylan: I don’t know about that, but I do appreciate it.
Valerie: I should’ve made you beg.

Kelly: Look, I’m trying to say I’m sorry. I know I’ve been a bitch. I owe you one.
Valerie: Yeah, you do. But one of these days- I’ll collect.

Donna (about Valerie): Well, I like her. She’s got style.

Cindy: In your opinion, is there any reason that we should be concerned about her?
Dylan: Let me tell you guys this- if you thought you had your hands full with Brenda, this girl is a much bigger package with a much brighter bow.

Valerie: I always keep my promises.

Clare (to Valerie): You’ve got the money, looks, the attitude. You can have virtually any guy on the west side that you want.

Valerie: This isn’t about me.
Ray: It’s always about you, Valerie.

Valerie: Menage-a-trois? What? You guys are doing a threesome?
Dylan: Stop drooling.

Cindy (to Valerie): I really admire your stamina. Even at your age, I don’t think I could’ve managed school and the Peach Pit After Dark.

Valerie: Like my father used to say, “We’re only here for a short time so we gotta make it a good time.”

Valerie: You know, it’s nice to be on fairly decent terms with you.
Dylan: Oh hell, we just have a little problem letting drugs and money come between us that’s all.
Valerie: Despite all that’s happened, you’re still one of my best friends.

Valerie: Look, I know things seem to be dark, but you gotta look for the silver lining.

Dylan: Yeah, subconscious- it’s a bitch.
Brandon: So is a Valerie.

Dylan (to Brandon about Valerie): I’m very impressed you were able to resist her. I never could. I always-always caved.

Valerie: (to Brandon): We can’t let sex and drugs ruin our longtime friendship.

season s i x
Brandon: Val, you’re beautiful and unbelievably sexy.

Brandon: I thought you were dating a Dodger.
Valerie: Actually he was an Angel. We had fun until they sent him down to the minors.
Brandon: You ruined his game?
Valerie: I know! I felt terrible.

Valerie: Whatever you guys thought of me, I probably deserved it. I just wanna let you know that I care about you. All of you.

Valerie: Maybe they’ll erect a statue of me in the Peach Pit. St. Valerie.

Ginger: Jus tell me one thing. Why did you got to so much trouble?
Valerie: Well, maybe I like avocados.

Brandon: You have a lot of people that care about you now, Val.

Cindy: Dear Valerie, Jim and I are so sorry to hear that you’re having to go through all those horrible memories again. I pray that as the years go by, your recollections of the past will soften. I can assure you, you’re not just a survivor, you’re a fighter. And as you grow older, those things that tear at your soul will make you a more stronger and loving person. Best to you and Brandon. Love Cindy and Jim.

Valerie: Listen God if you’re up there, I don’t ask for a lot. I just need friends like everybody else. And I always seem to screw them up. Maybe you can help me out. And while you’re at it, can you look out for Donna? The sweetest lamb hasn’t figured out when her boyfriend throw’s her down the stairs it doesn’t mean I love you.

Colin (to Valerie): You know, you’re my miracle.

Valerie (to Brandon): Hey Beevis, could you and Butthead used the mute button?

Valerie: Maybe you guys should learn a little thing called loyalty. You guys used to be Colin’s friend until he screwed up, and then you turned your back on him. I won’t do that. I never will.

Colin: I love you. Not because you bailed me out and not because of some fancy lawyer you’re paying for.
Valerie: Are you sure?
Colin: I’m positive.
Valerie: Because I love you and I always have. And I’ve never risked so much for anyone before.

Colin: You and everyone else leave me and Kelly alone, alright? Stay out of our lives!
Valerie: Colin listen to me, they wouldn’t be in your life without Kelly okay? They care about her, not you. I’m the only one who does.

Brandon: You’re the only family I got left here.
Valerie: You mean that?
Brandon: Yeah, I do.

season s e v e n
Kenny (to Valerie): You’re trouble.

Kenny: I’ve fallen for you.
Valerie: You say it’s like a curse.
Kenny: Isn’t it?

Brandon (about Valerie): You can’t stop her!
Steve: You can only hope to contain her.

Valerie: What? Is there some other test I have to pass? You want me to sign some kind of loyalty oath or random drug testing?
Brandon: Oh, a loyalty oath might be nice.
Valerie: When have I not been loyal to you?

Tom: You know when Valerie told me her roommates both were guys I was wondering. I guess you guys really are like family, huh?
Steve: Yeah.

Brandon: You know, you’re a smart woman Val.

Gigi: Amazing. You’re a senior in highschool and you’ve been running a nightclub for nearly three years.

She kisses him on the cheek.
Brandon: What was that for?
Valerie: For being sweet. Being there for me. I really appreciate it Brandon. I don’t know what I’d do without you.

Valerie: You know David, I really love this club. I put a lot of myself into it.
David: What do you want me to say, Val? I’m sorry you lost all your money?
Valerie: This is so embarrassing. Everybody knows.
David: See that’s funny- I never thought you cared what other people thought.
Valerie: Yeah- well, I do. It’s humiliating.

season e i g h t
Valerie: It’s prickly. That’s to protect itself. You see because, um, once a year it has a really beautiful bloom. It’s worth it. If you could stand it the rest of the time.

Valerie: And the part about me being strong. I get that on my own.

Valerie: Whoops. Saved by the bell.

Valerie (on her mother): Well, she can tear me up into three million pieces with one look and three little sentences.

Valerie: Brandon took me in like I was family. Clearly, I was the black sheep mind you, but it was a love that I have never known.

Kelly: It’s weird. She was the one doing community service, but I was the one relieved that I was done.
Donna: That’s our Val.

Valerie: I mean, one minute I’m a ****. The next, I’m Joan of Ark.

Valerie: Growing up I had these neighbors who loved to play the blues. You know, like Joe Turner and Billie Holiday and Buddy Waters. I would lie and listen to the songs with the windows open over an over again. There was a lot of sadness in my house.

Valerie: Look, you may not believe this and you have every right to, but I’m just doing this because I want to protect you.
Brandon: Protect me. From what? From who?
Valerie: From you.
Brandon: From me?
Valerie: Yeah. I mean, I know you better than anybody, even yourself. I just don’t want you to get hurt Brandon. I mean, here you are in the most beautiful beach in the whole entire world and you feel like crap. I hate that.

Valerie: Look at me- I’m young, beautiful, intelligent and I’m here alone. With you guys.

Noah: City of angels. What a joke, huh? Are you one?
Valerie: Hardly.

Valerie: People say I’m reckless.

Steve (to Valerie): Why don’t you say we check in? Scope out our room you little nasty fun tart.

Valerie: Well, you’re not me. You’re too smart.
David: Look at yourself. I see a very healthy person.

Valerie: David, she doesn’t listen to me. Bad news- she doesn’t want to hear it if it gets in the way of her having a man. You know it doesn’t matter how much he hurt me. Coming into my room night after night.
David: This isn’t about Bill Taylor is it?
Valerie: No, it’’s not. It’s…my father. When I was a kid he uh- I was sexually abused David.
David: I didn’t know.
Valerie: Yeah, that’s what she said when I told her. Well, you knew I was damaged. Turns out I’m completely broken.
David: How old were you?
Valerie: Eleven. I became really quiet. Withdrawn. Instead of asking me what was wrong, my mom decides to invite half the school over for my twelth birthday party. My dad buys me this jacket. Black mink. We didn’t have that kind of money. I thought everybody knew.
David: That was guilt talking, Val. It was his fault. It wasn’t yours.
Valerie: My thirteenth birthday, there was this huge blizzard. My dad was in Chicago and he was stuck there because the airport was closed. The snow was piled up so high outside our house that no one could get in or out. It was the first time in a long time I felt safe. So my mom and I decide to bake a cake. It was chocolate with vanilla frosting. Nothing ever tasted so good.

Erica: Valerie, do you remember when you and Dylan came down to Mexico to get me from my mom and my step-dad.
Valerie: Yeah.
Erica: Well, I was really happy to see you then.
Valerie: Me too. I’m happy to see you now.
Erica: How could you be? I mean, look at me; I’m nothing.
Valerie: You’ve made some bad choices and you’ve done some things you’re not proud of, but that doesn’t make you nothing.
Erica: You really believe that?
Valerie: Yeah, I do. I mean, I’ve done some thing’s that I’m not proud of either, but at the end of the day I’m all I’ve got. I’m not gonna beat myself about it.

Brandon: What’s the special occasion?
Valerie: What? I was in the neighborhood and just thought I’d drop by.
Brandon: You don’t just drop by, Val.

Steve: You’re a genius, Valerie.

Donna: You think of everything.
Valerie: Well if I didn’t, who would, huh?

Hairdresser: Two guys at the same time; you’re good.
Valerie: No, actually I’m bad.

Valerie: Poor does not look good on me.

Valerie: I can’t imagine feeling guilty about money, but maybe that’s because I never really had any. At least not by Beverly Hills standards.
Cooper: That’s what makes you special. You’re not afraid of a little hard work so you have a real sense of yourself and your boundaries. Maybe a little too much sometimes, but-
Valerie: What? Is that a complaint?
Cooper: Just a little show of impatience or an enthusiasm in abundance.

Noah (to Valerie): For a bad girl sometimes you have pretty good manners.

Noah: Tell me about her.
David: I can tell you in one word- sex and money.
Noah: That’s two.
David: Not where Valerie is concerned.

David: This is Valerie. The one where you shake her hand, you gotta check and make sure your fingers aren’t missing.

David: Val’s out for money. For stocks, bonds, property. She’ll take cash, check, credit card. When it came to squeezing every nickel out of this club, she knew what she was doing.

Noah (about Valerie): God, even her footsteps make her loose my concentration.

season n i n e
Brandon (to Valerie): Would you go be a bitch somewhere else please?

Valerie (to Sophie): Don’t hurt Steve, okay?

David (to Valerie): You should try being nicer to yourself.

Valerie: I’ve been doing a lot of thinking this past week. About my life and where I want it to go, and I’ve made a decision. I’m leaving. My mom asked me to move back home. I accepted and my plane leaves tonight. This may shock you, but I always wanted to be a part of this group. I know sometimes that my methods were a little off, and I know sometimes I hurt people. But I’m thankful that I have friends who know how to forgive. So happy Thanksgiving and cheers. And no sappy goodbyes because I really can’t stand them.

Valerie: Well, um, here it goes. Time to look to the future and never look back. Never ever look back.

the r e a s o n s
01. Because she was a bad girl.
02. Because she made the show spicy.
03. Because she saved the show after Shannen left.
04. Because she had the greatest comebacks and one-liners.
05. Because she brought the snark.
06. Because she was gorgeous.
07. Because she had great curves.
08. Because she owned being a vamp.
09. Because she knew what she wanted and how to get it, regardless of what she had to do.
10. Because she was independent.
11. Because she was a business woman.
12. Because she came to L.A. with barely anything and by the end of the fifth season, had a luxurious sportscar, fabulous wardrobe, owned/ran the After Dark, and had thousands in her bank.
13. Because she loved power.
14. Because she was complex and fascinating.
15. Because we love her despite all the bad things she's done.
16. Because she forgave her mother for knowing about her fathers abuse.
17. Because she finally forgave herself for killing her father.
18. Because she finally got closure on her father's death by the time she left the show.
19. Because if she loved or cared about you she could be incredibly loyal and giving.
20. Because Tiffani's a great actress.
21. Because the role of Valerie saved her career.
22. Because she still keeps in touch with and is friends with her 90210 co-stars.
23. Because almost every role she played post-Valerie happens to be a strong career-woman and a bit of a bad girl.
24. Because Valerie was picked as one the 50 coolest people in LA you've never heard of for LA-LA Magazine.

yulan 12-11-2016 03:28 AM

Thanks for the new thread!

Perhaps we could somehow collect previous titles. But it sounds exhaustive :lol:

heyitsrachel 12-11-2016 12:59 PM

TFTNT! If anyone has time now, please feel free. I'm super swamp with a few things...but I'll get to it hopefully in a few days.

BlackWhiteRose 12-12-2016 06:51 AM


msstock87 12-12-2016 09:39 PM

Thanks for the new thread!

BlackWhiteRose 12-15-2016 07:12 AM

heyitsrachel 12-15-2016 11:42 PM

So great!

yulan 12-16-2016 12:59 AM

Great pic!

BlackWhiteRose 12-16-2016 06:26 AM

She´s so pretty.

msstock87 12-16-2016 11:47 PM

Beautiful pic!

BlackWhiteRose 12-17-2016 05:57 AM

Tiffani is so lovely!

yulan 12-20-2016 05:36 AM

Introduction of Valerie:

BlackWhiteRose 12-20-2016 07:02 AM

Loved it!

yulan 12-20-2016 07:29 AM

Introduction of Val ;)

heyitsrachel 12-20-2016 07:29 PM

Ooo...innocent Val.

yulan 12-21-2016 02:18 AM

A REAL introduction of Val:

HipHopKingMike 12-21-2016 06:11 AM

The very first episode in S5 - Val's true colors started to come out, you knew she'll be trouble

BlackWhiteRose 12-21-2016 10:04 AM

heyitsrachel 12-21-2016 08:53 PM

Great pic. Who's she?

yulan 12-22-2016 01:53 AM

Wow, she looks amazing!

BlackWhiteRose 12-22-2016 08:31 AM

yulan 12-22-2016 09:13 AM

Btw, I read today that Alyssa Milano was considered for the role of Val before Tiff was cast. Did anyone hear about it?

loveslullaby 12-22-2016 07:13 PM

Nope! I just looked it up and saw that it was also offered to Alicia Silverstone and Drew Barrymore. It's cool because I know Tiff along with Reese Witherspoon and SMG were considered for Cher.

heyitsrachel 12-22-2016 08:41 PM

Nope. I never heard that.

yulan 12-24-2016 01:49 AM


I just looked it up and saw that it was also offered to Alicia Silverstone and Drew Barrymore.
I also read they considered Alicia Silverstone for the role of Brenda, but I guess it cannot be true, because she was too young. I guess for Val they definitely wanted someone who was sort of already famous.


It's cool because I know Tiff along with Reese Witherspoon and SMG were considered for Cher.
I did not know that. She is such a different type than Alicia, Reese and Sarah! I mean, these three are very much alike.

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