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But other than that, I think it can be sometimes debated when exactly two characters "fall for each other". With Fadam it was obvious that they were interested in each other when they were talking on the steps outside the school, at least to me. And they hung out during the food drive and in class and we'll probably get some more of that in In Too Deep. With Eclare, it was clear to me that they first started liking each other when they skipped class and edited their essays. And they had other scenes after that in other episodes where we got to see their budding friendship. I mean, they already liked each other before they became good friends, but during the time they were hanging out we could see that those feelings were growing. I mean, with Sav and Holly J, we got the one scene where they bond over student council. They talk about having a dance. Fiona mentioned that they'd been spending a lot of time on student council together, but we never get to see it after that, save a few brief scenes before they're kissing in the next episode. The moment it became clear to me that Sav had a crush on Holly J was the scene when he talks to her in the hallway and Fiona points out that he seems to like her, but we never see that with Holly J. They did make his behavior out to be pretty obvious. But it was news to me that she would even return his feelings. It was only when she kissed him at Above the Dot that I got we were supposed to think that she liked him back. Not everyone are friends with each other before they date. Sometimes someone sparks your interest and you go out with them to get to know them. That's fine. The problem is, we never see Sav and Holly J actually developing as a couple by dealing with conflicts or getting to know each other outside of student council. We get brief scenes with them "having fun". I definitely think that the reason Sav and Holly J don't get screen time is a combination of the writers not liking them as much as other couples, and also the fact that they seem to not know that the hell to do with them. Last edited by Kwinks; 02-08-2011 at 12:47 PM |
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What i hated bout Halo is how fast Sav and Jenna took back Holly J and Kc... they both treated them like ****.. Holly J didn't really care about Sav and ditched him the second Declan came around. KC told her to get an abortion... come on! i get KC wasn't ready to be a dad, but i believe Craig loved Manny more than KC loves Jenna.... he didn't want Manny to get an abortion. and Jt didn't want to be with Liberty cause was being annoying.. he still helped.. when Kc left Clare last season and used her.. then poured his little heart out for her she rejected him. Holly J says 2 nice things to Sav and he forgives her? i am sorry cheating is the one thing i could not forgave.. cause if it was true love Holly J wouldn't have cheated on him. Holly J some where inside wanted to be there.... Declan didn't chain her down.. yeah he begged but if she got up to leave he wouldn't have stopped her... Sav just needs to be single... let him develop without a girlfriend...
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I think that this whole storyline is so forced and unlike all of the other couples on this show like them or not they actually get screen time and character development and there's at least a sense that the writers and TPTB are willing to try and give them screen time and character development and that it's not all about one person and their wants and needs all the time. I don't think it's ever a good thing to see a relationship completely stop a character's growth but that's exactly what happened to Sav and there is absolutely no suspense or any drama with this couple. All of these things could've put this couple on the backburner and then when the fact that this show doesn't do much with its seniors generally speaking that all of this and it's easy to see why they are a couple on the backburner. I also think that Sav and his storylines were never a real priority and that TPTB didn't hide that and that someone who's part of TPTB isn't all that invested in this couple and their storyline because if that were really the case third parties wouldn't be used to try and make their storyline look interesting.
I think that while Charlotte and Ray are friends in real life that they have no romantic chemistry and that the writers and TPTB would've been better off working on making them be friends because I don't know anyone who would be friends with much less date someone who spread false rumors about them without ever thinking for a second about the other person and their feelings. I also think that Holly J really just walks around and does what she wishes with no real consequences no matter what she says or does and it would've been better if she was actually forced to work for and earn Sav's forgiveness, but, that didn't happen in large part to me because then something in this storyline would be about Sav and his feelings but TPTB has long before now disregarded Sav's feelings about anything. The other couples like them or not are not this one sided and they are worse than Spinner and Emma because both of them had their own storylines and weren't just there solely to be someone's ever present boyfriend/girlfriend like Sav is. I think Peter and Mia were another stereotypical couple for this show and that in their own ways they were both egostical but, that the writers and TPTB were desperate to try and make them both likable characters but, first impressions matter and neither Peter or Mia were really given much to do in the end. Holly J and Sav really have nothing to talk about and let's not forget that under their supposed leadership that the school is under a lockdown in part because of their actions during Vegas Night. __________________
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i agree... Ray and Charlotte have great chemistry... but something about them screams brother/sister.... more than lovers... i really wanted them to have a friendship.... stretching back to when he dated Anya.... for her sake.... but no such luck... i have a hard time buying that they are "in love" i feel like they love each other.. but its kinda like Clare loves Adam.. a best friend kind of love not a romantic..
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This storyline might be different if TPTB and the writers acted like Sav was actually worthy enough to actually write for and develop but, in their eyes he isn't because otherwise he wouldn't be on screen in two poorly written relationship storylines where Sav is written like a plot device and not an actual character. I also think that Ray has more chemistry with Melinda (Alli) than he does with Charlotte and that it's hard to watch Ray and Charlotte try to act together because their storyline just seems to make even something that could be interesting or fun really awkward but, Holly J has storylines and screen time outside of this poorly writtern awkward storyline where Sav just doesn't in my opinion. I think that just because Holly J is a popular character that TPTB and the writers thought that her popularity alone could simply carry the whole storyline but to me it doesn't and didn't work that way here because Holly J is watered down by and because of him. In reality, Sav could water down the character of whoever he was dating because TPTB never really gave him much to do outside of being someone's ever present boyfriend and he really has no friends to interact with since all of his friends have left "Degrassi." __________________
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Not ONE SavvyJ scene and this was their Vday episode. Freakin' hilarious to me. They even found a way to throw Eclare in there. Soooo funny.
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I loved how Anya looked at him like he was crazy when he was doing the announcements in that crazy toga getup or whatever. Plus, I love how she mentioned her best friend is currently dating her ex. Although I'm not sure why HJ is her best friend...
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