It's called timing. what kind of proposal would that be?

I'm just throwing out my thoughts and honestly since only one fanbase sees the scene in a romantic context it kind of brings me to believe that my thoughts are the more realistic ones.

but if you want to have your opinion that's fine. I know I wont convince anyone.

Obviously not, lol. In time he and Juliet fell in love. No one is denying that.

I'm talking about people saying that his comment about not wanting to be alone was about him and Kate on the island. And that I don't agree with.

That would be so ridicolous!
You don't get married so you won't be alone especially if there's no need to.
I mean they were involeved in a serious relationship for almost 3 years so it was obvious he wasn't alone or he felt lonely.
He simply wanted to marry her because he loved her & wanted to spend the rest of his life with her.

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Well I can see where this is going, surprised it took so long.

With that I :gone:

You can state your opinion but please don't insult others'.

What I thought was telling was Kate flat out lying to Jack about going to help Sawyer...she didn't intended to go back to the temple, she wanted to find Claire as well. She didn't want to be a prisoner there but seemed fine leaving the rest of her friends behind there. I wonder where this whole Kate-Claire arc is going.

That's something I can't wait to see as well.
I loved their storyline in the sideways flashes & I can't wait to see it on the island.

Sawyer and Kate's situations have been mirrored since last season. That dock scene was a continuation of it. Sawyer absolutely loved Juliet and Kate loved Aaron, but the fact remains that they were substitutes for the loss of each other. And that ultimately cost Aaron the loss of his family and Juliet her life. That's where their immense guilt stems from. However, it doesn't mean she should stop loving Aaron or he shouldn't mourn Juliet. Because they will for quite some time. Nobody is saying the scene was romantic in nature, but Kate still absolutely cares deeply for Sawyer. And not just because he lost someone and she feels for him. But because it's Sawyer and their history still very much matters and always will. That's why it was her on that dock with him.

I just see people keep trying to devalue Skate and that ain't working for me. And since this isn't the SK thread, I'll stop.

Well she couldn't exactly say that she was going to look for Claire. The Others were there, and they wouldn't have let her leave if she did.

I think the storyline with Kate and Claire will be really interesting.

Yeah,they might have been,but they were only temporary substitutes.
During the spawn of three years Aaron became Kate's son and not Sawyer's "replecement" & Juliet became the love of Sawyer life ans stopped being only a friend he needed not to be alone.

mightve been better if she did. they obviously know her whereabouts :lol:

i think the kate/claire storyline will be interesting but im not sure what kates expecting cause after seeing new claire, i have a feeling she will be anything but happy to see kate

Yes--he may have asked her to stay at first because he didn't want to be alone, but that was before they fell in love.
There was no reason to show the ring if they didn't want us to know Sawyer wanted to marry Juliet. They simply would not have included that revelation. No ring=no one would think he wanted to marry her. The ring symbolizes how deep their love was for one another.

That's your interpretation. It's not canon. I don't believe Juliet was the love of Sawyer's life. That ring does nothing for me because he didn't propose and probably had ample time to do so. And even worse if that was what he intended all along, he spared a longing glance at Kate in the finale. And Aaron is not Kate's son. That's why she came back to reunite him with his mother. Because she realized she hadn't been keeping him for all the right reasons.

Jate--Kate lied to Jack and took off to find Sawyer. She actually looked him in the face and said goodbye when she had no intentions of going back to the temple. Wow, I was pleasantly surprised with this.

Suliet--I knew Sawyer hooked up with Juliet because he was lonely, that was no surprise. The surprise was in Sawyer telling Kate this though. Rather than trying to focus on an epic love between Suliet, the writers chose to shift the scene to be about Sawyer's guilt. He blames himself for Juliet's death, which is ill-placed of course but very Sawyer. I love that Sawyer asked Kate if she understood, because clearly by her face she did; WHH made it clear she used Aaron as a way to transfer her unresolved feelings for Sawyer, and I think that is why she settled into the life she did with Jack.:)

Skate--Was the best part of the episode for me. Kate, I LOVE her in this episode. I liked that she told Sawyer the reason why she came back, especially when we consider how she reacted to Jack in 316. Josh/Evi were so damn good in their scenes lastnight. I like that she kept trying to get through to Sawyer too, and realized at the end that he needed space, even if she was hurting herself too.

Jack and Sayid--I found them a bit boring. I am not feeling this temple storyline really. I am so glad next week goes back to Flocke, because these people don't do anything for me, lol.

Other than that, I enjoyed seeing Kate and Claire in the AU, and how their bond with Aaron was inevitable there too. I read spoilers so I knew Ethan was the doctor but it was kinda cool anyways to see it happen onscreen.

Jack and Sayid were not boring! They were cute, lol. It's Kenji and that John Lennon look-alike that are boring. :lol:

I think Jack and Sayid were cute too! their scene where Jack isn't sure whether to give him the pill or not was one of my favs last night.

and it seems that Jack is pretty important to Dogan and Lennon, so I'm excited to see where that goes too.

And he knows that Claire is his sister! Which begs the question, what the hell happened to Claire in those past 3 years? It couldn't have been pretty. :blank:

I thought Dogen and Lennon were cute :P
Its Sayid I didnt like in the Sayid/Jack scene, but its because i dislike sayid immensely. I agree with what Saywer said about Sayid tho. just not seeing his point this season at all

I'm loving Sayid this season, for the first time in years they gave him a good and exciting storyline. But i think he's totally doomed.

I'm glad they finally addressed that! I want him to go looking for her too. I mean I feel like they ignore that connection. :lol:

I'm scared for Claire.

No. You. Din't.

Sayid is the master of pawnery. THAT IS HIS WORTH. :lol:

srry ever since he shot little ben i've just been done with the character :lol:
but even aside from all that he just has not been the sayid of old seasons so far imo, hes overly sentimental and hasnt even broke anyones neck with his legs yet. its ep 3, this is shocking for sayid. :lol:

I agree he isn't the same Sayid from seasons 1-3, but I can't quit my Iraqi. The memories of old are still too sweet. :lol:

Sayid is awesome. Always was, always will beee.

I see what you're saying. :nod:

well I have to admit thet I didn't like the premier but this episode cashed up


I usually don't like Jack but I loved him this time, he's better when he's not in romantic scenes. His scene with Said and the baseball guy were entertaining but I have to admit, after 6 seasons I want answers not wondering if a guy playing with a damn Baseball meant something or was a reference to something:mad:

Skate - they won me over, I told myself to not care about them and thought that I was over them but turned out I wasn't, all it took was a scene like this to remind why I shiped them once

Kate/Clair : I love their scenes but I couldn't help but think that they looked like a couple of lesbian in the hospital they sure have chemestry :lmao:
it's kinda ironic that Jin is the one who found Clair (or the other way around) all you had to do was sticking with Jin, Kate

I'm also tired of wondering what Kate thinks or why she does the things she does (crying), and please stop the triangle, I may love Skate but I hate the triangle more, it's the last season develop only one relationship and stick with it writers!!! but knowing them they will probably make Kate end up with a guy this timeline and the other in the second one and that's just cheating