[Episode Discussion] 1x20 - "What Is And What Never Should Be"
 

1x20 - What Is And What Never Should Be
April 27, 2004

While Nathan looks for an after-school job to pay his rent, Haley decides to throw a party at his apartment but panics when things get out of control. After a jilted Brooke realizes she was not invited to the festivities, she decides to crash the party with her new friend Nicki.

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It looks like Brooke is going back to the dark side. It's about time, I was getting sick of the nice girl. Maybe this will lighten her up.

I can't wait to see the fight with Nikki/Peyton and Dan/Deb sex! Wow! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

Cant wait till the new eppy!I live nice Brooke but I still cant wait to see bitchy Brooke tonight.Love her both ways.

Cant wait to see Nathan in a backwords cap [img]smilies/sigh.gif[/img]

I can not wait until 7pm central time when the show comes on. The previews where great. Especially the fight scene with Nikki and Peyton. Peyton is a noise talker and it is about time she got that booty whpped. Brooke should have done it but I guess she is a little nice than me.

Yeah did u guys see the pic the have on teh front page of the WB site?
http://www.thewb.com/Index/0,7349,,00.html

it's sooo cool i can't wait! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

I'm so looking forward to this episode, because it will show the stuff I saw filmed at the mall when I was in Wilmington! I hope it comes off as cute as it looked while they were filming - Nathan is a little inept at this whole job thing. Two lines I saw in the parts of the script that I read that I hope are left in: Peyton saying to Nikki: "I smell skank and it's coming from you". And Haley drinking a beer and saying to someone "Here's a quarter call someone who cares". Don't know if they will keep those in, but they came off funny when I read them.

can't wait for this epi.
although i can't see it for some time, damn the country where i live. [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img]

[img]smilies/lol.gif[/img] @ the catfight picture promo they put up at the wb..ohh yeah. Anyone notice that Haley is behind Nikki? Maybe trying to get Nikki off Peyton? Lol. like 9 more hourse for me! yay! [img]smilies/wiggle.gif[/img]

[img]smilies/lol.gif[/img] That's priceless.

I can't wait for OTH tonight!!! It looks good.

Only a few more hours! Yaaay! Poor Nate... his appartment is gonna be traaaashed.

Definatly interesting episode tonight.

First and foremost, I. love. Peyton. Seriously. She is most likely going to get serious backlash for getting tired of apologizing to Brooke but I don't care. What else could she possibly say to Brooke? Every time her and Lucas come within five feet of one another, Brooke magically appears and freaks out, hell, I'm not a L/P fan either! I love her when she's all fun and flirty and I loved it even more when she kicked Nikki's ass, which she did.

Back to the Brooke and Peyton subject, I almost cried in the last scene with them, even though I had a feeling that they would have a scene together after Brooke defended Peyton. The way Brooke came to crash at Peyton's house and how it seemed like they were back on the road of friendship. Both Hilarie and Sophia were awesome in that scene, especially when Brooke had tears in her eyes.

Poor Nathan, getting arrested for a party at which he didn't even attend. Speaking of Nate, he looked like such a nerd with his hat backwards - IT WAS SO CUTE! I was seriously in giggles and "oooh"-ing.

Him and Haley were cute with their "Tim. Go Home!" - Tim's so stupid but I love him. Wish there were more Haley/Nathan scenes though. Oh well.

At least we had some. We didn't even get a glimpse of Jake in the episode. I wanted him to be there to see Peyton and Nikki fight. Because I knew Peyton was fighting for Jake. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Speaking of Nikki, what a psycho! Hitting on Lucas, fighting Peyton, she's one step away from the looney bin! Seriously, kick her out.

Didn't care much for the adult storylines. I just don't find them interesting on this show. Now, the OC, I love the adult storylines. Oh well.

And shockingly enough, not a fan, but I adored the scenes with Peyton and Lucas. Maybe because I enjoy them when their light-hearted with one another and not all ridden with angst.

Good episode. Need more Jake though.

OMG, OMG, OMG! That ending was outstanding and so damn powerful. How Peyton told Luke that Nathan was a pretty bad guy way back in the beginning whenever they first dated, and then she states that Luke and Nate have switched places now! OMG, Peyton was so awesome in that scene. I loved it. Luke's expression was utter shock and sadness whenever Peyton basically calls him a bad guy. That was simply awesome. It made me sad whenever Peyton told Luke that her heart and head was not in any place during that time to sleep with anyone and yet Luke had no problem sleeping with Nikki. Man, Peyton really put Luke in his place and I loved every minute of it.

Brooke was pretty annoying throughout the first 45 minutes of the episode but she redeemed herself whenever she stuck up for Peyton during the fight with Nikki. And she said she was sorry which was cool. I also really enjoyed the Peyton and Brooke scene whenever they are laying in Peyton's bed. That was cute and it reminded me that I miss their little sleepovers and talks. They were once close and I do wish that they get back that closeness, and it looks as if they will eventually, which is great. Hilarie and Sophia sold me big time during this scene. It was so real and touching. I loved it.

On a sidenote, I loved the outfit Peyton was wearing at the end of the episode whenever she told Luke off. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] She looked so great in that outfit.

Regarding Peyton. I just love her personality. She can go from tough girl, to sensitive girl, to flirty girl, etc. and she just transitions it so well! But, I especially like that she is so gorgeous, and yet could care less that she is, as she rather be more tomboyish and not show off her looks. I just adore Peyton. Always have. Always will!

Nathan, he was such a sweetheart in this episode. It is unbelievable how much this guy has changed. How great he was to take that job and work damn hard at perfecting it. And apologizing to his boss for treating him poorly in the past. He was so awesome. Oh, and I was rolling whenever Nathan picked up the dirty pret. on the floor and gave it to Dan. [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img]

My heart ached for Nathan whenever he got arrested. He did nothing and got punished for it anyway. I did love how Lucas tried to stick up for him to the police and also that Lucas, along with Haley were there supporting Nathan whenever he left the police station. I mean, of course Haley would be there, but it also was a sweet gesture by Luke to be there to support him. I will give credit where credit is due. Luke can be sweet at times and this was a good moment for him.

I loved all the one liners that Peyton got in on Nikki during this episode. They were soooooo good! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Overall, pretty good episode. The two people that I felt the most sorry for were Peyton and Nate. Peyton, because Lucas pissed her off while finding out about sleeping with Nikki, as well as just realizing that Luke has not been a decent guy throughout all of this. You can tell that Peyton still does have some feelings for Luke, but that she is definitely not going to act on them or really acknowledge them. And I felt terribly for Nate because of being responsible for the party even though he did nothing wrong. Nathan won my heart big time in this episode whenever he took that job and worked to perfect it as well as befriending his boss. Nate is awesome and I absolutely ADORE him! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Main reason why I really enjoyed this episode? Because my two favorite characters from pilot to the present.. Peyton and Nathan shined in this episode. I loved them!

[ 04-27-2004: Message edited Wilpen ]

[ 04-27-2004: Message edited Wilpen ]

Well I don't have much to say- you said it all alreadyCutieKatie [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img].
I totally missed Jake too! Peyton was fighting for Jake all the way, and if he was there he would have stood up for Peyton!
This epi had everything drama, sadness, attitude, and funny moments! I give it a 10 out of 10! I hope the rest of the epi's are this good.

who was laying in bed together in the very first scene?