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Old 07-17-2013, 05:28 PM
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honestly that is probably what is making this more frustrating. yeah he screwed up and she doesn't owe him anything. but watching him pine away for her while she sleeps with ty isn't really something i want to watch.

let him accept what he's lost and begin to move on or make some progress with bay/emmett.
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well he did not seem to mind whenhe started hugging her in the promo. He hugs her first
But I interpreted that to mean that he thinks she might be coming around to his workplace for more than friendship (which is what he has been wanting).

Emmett does not know Ty is even back, let alone that Bay has committed herself to a sexual relationship with Ty.

For some reason, it does feel as though the writers want to rub Emmett's nose in the mess that he made. It's almost as if one of the writers feels wrath for someone who cheated on her, and now, she is going to make Emmett pay for all of her pain.

How many other characters on television suffer for 18 months (and 30 episodes) straight with no reprieve and no moments of joy?

Usually there is more of a push and pull. Characters may suffer pain for years, but it is interspersed with moments of pleasure.

Emmett hasn't really had any pleasure or happiness since those moments he and Bay were dancing at prom. That was March 2012. It's now July 2013.

When the show returns, it will probably be January 2014 at the earliest. Two years straight is a long time to go without joy.
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But I interpreted that to mean that he thinks she might be coming around to his workplace for more than friendship (which is what he has been wanting).

Emmett does not know Ty is even back, let alone that Bay has committed herself to a sexual relationship with Ty.

For some reason, it does feel as though the writers want to rub Emmett's nose in the mess that he made. It's almost as if one of the writers feels wrath for someone who cheated on her, and now, she is going to make Emmett pay for all of her pain.

How many other characters on television suffer for 18 months (and 30 episodes) straight with no reprieve and no moments of joy?

Usually there is more of a push and pull. Characters may suffer pain for years, but it is interspersed with moments of pleasure.

Emmett hasn't really had any pleasure or happiness since those moments he and Bay were dancing at prom. That was March 2012. It's now July 2013.

When the show returns, it will probably be January 2014 at the earliest. Two years straight is a long time to go without joy.
we don't know yet if Emmett knows Ty is back. For all we know Daphne has told him or maybe Bay does tell him. He could know we just don't get to see that. Taking Bay's talk with Daphne. Daphne already know Ty was back but we did not get to see her find out. It is none of Emmetts bus. that Ty and Bay are sleeping with each other. They are not couple and even if they are friends doesn't mean he gets to know, Does everyone tell their friends who they sleep with? From the promo Emmett does not looked surprised to see Ty, I think he knows either from Daphne or Bay tells him. Bay went to his work twice. Once to talk about Tobey which after Bay got them the gig and then now for the event they will be planning. We don't know what Emmett is thinking yet. We have to see how it plays out and what he knows and how it all comes about. It's not like Bay is leading him on. Bay has also been clear on her feelings just friends. bay is not telling him to wait for her, thats his choice well the writers choice.
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Old 07-17-2013, 06:41 PM
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we don't know yet if Emmett knows Ty is back. For all we know Daphne has told him or maybe Bay does tell him. He could know we just don't get to see that. Taking Bay's talk with Daphne. Daphne already know Ty was back but we did not get to see her find out. It is none of Emmetts bus. that Ty and Bay are sleeping with each other. They are not couple and even if they are friends doesn't mean he gets to know, Does everyone tell their friends who they sleep with? From the promo Emmett does not looked surprised to see Ty, I think he knows either from Daphne or Bay tells him. Bay went to his work twice. Once to talk about Tobey which after Bay got them the gig and then now for the event they will be planning. We don't know what Emmett is thinking yet. We have to see how it plays out and what he knows and how it all comes about. It's not like Bay is leading him on. Bay has also been clear on her feelings just friends. bay is not telling him to wait for her, thats his choice well the writers choice.
As you say, we don't know. But Emmett looked surprised when he saw Ty, to me. We'll find out I guess.

That's why this board is for spoilers and speculation. So we can speculate.

I never said Emmett has a right to know Ty and Bay are sleeping together. Please do not put words in my mouth.

I only suggested that if Emmett knew Bay was NOT at his workplace out of an interest in him again, then he might have protected his feelings more.

That's what Emmett's comment that it "Hurts too much to be with you, but not be with you" meant to me. But again, it's just speculation. The writers may choose to have Emmett grow beyond that comment in the next couple of episodes and desire a friendship with Bay. We don't know yet.
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we don't know yet if Emmett knows Ty is back. For all we know Daphne has told him or maybe Bay does tell him. He could know we just don't get to see that. Taking Bay's talk with Daphne. Daphne already know Ty was back but we did not get to see her find out. It is none of Emmetts bus. that Ty and Bay are sleeping with each other. They are not couple and even if they are friends doesn't mean he gets to know, Does everyone tell their friends who they sleep with? From the promo Emmett does not looked surprised to see Ty, I think he knows either from Daphne or Bay tells him. Bay went to his work twice. Once to talk about Tobey which after Bay got them the gig and then now for the event they will be planning. We don't know what Emmett is thinking yet. We have to see how it plays out and what he knows and how it all comes about. It's not like Bay is leading him on. Bay has also been clear on her feelings just friends. bay is not telling him to wait for her, thats his choice well the writers choice.
Just because he doesn't look all that shocked doesn't mean it still won't hurt. That the point I was trying to make they are still trying to get Emmett reaction through this and it sucks.
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:53 PM
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Hello, everybody

I'm new to the SaB spoiler thread. I love Emmett/Bay and Ty/Bay. So I guess Im really just a happy camper.

Although I do want Bemmett as endgame, I'm enjoying Bay/Ty right now. I love that Ty was her first time. Im with whoever said that the guy that cheated on her should not be her first time. I'm with whoever said Bay/Ty aren't in love, though. They like/care about eachother alot and there feelings fo eachother are growing each episode, tough, so yay! I'm really excited that Bay/Ty may carry on to season 3. I want a long and happy relationship for them.

However, I want Bemmett back together before the last 3 episodes of season 3.

Yay! That Ty may get to meet Bay's little sister! Is it true that Ty goes on the roadtrip with Bay and Angelo? That seems kind of strange...

Are we sure that Bay and Ty have the hot pool scene? The sneak peeks show Daphne/Jace in a pool together. She's teaching how to swim. Lucky me if I get both Daphne/Jace and Ty/Bay hot pool scenes. And I seriously cannot wait for that Jace/Daphne car scene! Hot! Best guy she's had yet.

It does seem kind of weird that Emmett wasn't there after the heart attack. I figured he would be at the hospital. Like everyone says he's Daphne's best friend, one of Toby's close/best friends, Regina's best friends with his mom. He's a pretty integral part of the group.

I definitely want Bay/Emmett to be friends. Iknow he said that it was too hard for him to be friends with her but then he said he's see her around so I took it to mean e needed space. Now, it's been 14 episodes so I don't see the problem. Well, I see the problem from Ty's point of view. Why he might be jealous. I would be jealous if my boyfriend was hanging out with his ex. We never got to see how he reacted when she told him about Emmett because he was overseas. Actually, that's what i think the portion of the promo where Ty looks like he's on base is about. I think it's a flashback of how Ty reacted.
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:06 PM
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You might be on to something, Sadie. Here's what we have seen so far, to signify whether or not Bay still cares about Emmett:
  • When Emmett tells her he hooked up with Simone, Bay leaves him at the prom and tosses his gift (of a motor cycle helmet) into a lake.
  • Next, Bay denies her feelings for Emmett and suppresses her pain, as she leaves for the Galapagos.
  • We see her almost text Emmett after she sees Simone for the first time, but she quickly dismisses that idea and reads Emmett's letter instead.
  • She looks scared when she sees the timeline.
  • Bay is angry and cries a few tears, when she confronts Emmett at Blue River Road. She tells him that he ripped the fabric apart and she needs to fall for someone else.
  • After Toby pushes Emmett down, Bay looks sadly as Emmett rides away on his motorcycle.
  • At the motorcycle show, Bay starts to share her sadness about John with Emmett, but ultimately she chooses to push Emmett to stay with Robin.
  • When asked, she gives Emmett advice about Daphne, but she reminds Emmett that nothing has changed between them.
  • She pushes Emmett away and tells him not to worry about her as she's leaving for Mexico.
  • She shares a longing look with Emmett before they drive home from the Mexican border.
  • She shares her Angelo problems with Emmett and vents about Buckner.
  • She attends Carlton and starts a friendship with Emmett.
  • When Emmett asks Bay to sneak down to the lake with him, Bay dismisses the idea and pursues Noah instead.
  • When Emmett tells her he cannot be friends because it hurts too much, Bay looks sad but accepts it.
  • When Bay throws an anti-Valentine's Day party, she asks Emmett (after asking Noah) and looks sad when she learns Emmett has other plans.
  • Bay tells Emmett that she is happy he came to her anti-Valentine's Day party, but the two do not talk beyond the initial hellos. Bay makes a move to kiss Noah and start a relationship with him at the end of the party.
  • Bay tells Emmett that she is dating Noah and that she thinks the two of them need to move on.
  • When Emmett kisses her and asks Bay if she is ready to move on, she looks flustered, but continues to pursue her relationship with Noah.
  • When Emmett asks her to make something for the uprising, she agrees, and asks Noah to join the movement.
  • When Emmett tells Bay that Noah is into Daphne, she accuses him of being jealous and doesn't talk with him again until she needs advice on Toby.
  • In the meantime, Bay is truly happy to see Ty and open to seeing if a relationship might develop between them.
  • When Bay discovers that Ty is into her, too, she asks him to let himself get closer to her and soon after, they have sex.

So what conclusions can we draw from her actions?

Looking at the list, I feel as though Bay does have feelings for Emmett, but the reality of his cheating has caused her to choose to shut the door on them.

What does everyone else think, after analyzing her actions?

Is anyone else, besides me, bothered by the fact that Bay decides to reach out to Emmett in the next couple of episodes? I am wondering how the writers are going to pull that off. What could possibly be Bay's motivation in seeking out Emmett at this point in their lives. Considering she has now committed herself to a romantic relationship with Ty, and Emmett has specifically told her that it hurts him too much to be her friend, it seems wrong to me. Does it to anyone else?

If I was Bay, I would go to Daphne for help on the Deafenstein screening. The fact that she asks Emmett for his assistance seems off to me.

What does everyone think it means? What does it say about Bay and her feelings?
Point of the matter is, In 2A, I was trying to figure out why Bay threw herself at Noah, It finally dawned on me, Emmett dropped the "LOVE BOMB" and she's running away from him.. That's all she's been doing.. Running and not willing to deal with her feelings for Emmett.. That's what all these boyfriends have been about, her choosing to not deal with how she feels about Emmett. That's the reason why I was so embarrassed for her with Noah.. Noah clearly wasn't into her. Seeing Emmett having a girlfriend could wake her up ,she's going to have to deal with these feelings sooner or later and I'd rather have it be NOW.
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Are we sure that Bay and Ty have the hot pool scene? The sneak peeks show Daphne/Jace in a pool together. She's teaching how to swim. Lucky me if I get both Daphne/Jace and Ty/Bay hot pool scenes.
Here was Becky Hartman Edwards exact tweet:

Becky HartmanEdwards ‏@beckhartwards 1 May
There's going to be a fantastic poolside scene in episode 2017. One word- Ty!!

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Sean Berdy tweeted this picture of himself that was taken today (on July 17th) and he has REALLY short hair, like a military cut. He looks great!
Sean Berdy ‏@SeanBerdy 4h Preparing my golf game for the tournament this weekend in my Wednesday outfit.

https://twitter.com/SeanBerdy/status...572545/photo/1
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Here's the program description on my DVR box for Monday night's episode "Prudence, Avarice, Lust, Justice, Anger" (2017 the one Lea Thompson directed)
Bay's romantic relationship is becoming too difficult to handle, possibly forcing her to make a very difficult decision; Daphne and Jace may wind up working together; someone from Toby's distant past returns all of a sudden.

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Here was Becky Hartman Edwards exact tweet:

Becky HartmanEdwards ‏@beckhartwards 1 May
There's going to be a fantastic poolside scene in episode 2017. One word- Ty!!

EDITED TO ADD:

Sean Berdy tweeted this picture of himself that was taken today (on July 17th) and he has REALLY short hair, like a military cut. He looks great!
Sean Berdy ‏@SeanBerdy 4h Preparing my golf game for the tournament this weekend in my Wednesday outfit.

https://twitter.com/SeanBerdy/status...572545/photo/1
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Here's the program description on my DVR box for Monday night's episode "Prudence, Avarice, Lust, Justice, Anger" (2017 the one Lea Thompson directed)
Bay's romantic relationship is becoming too difficult to handle, possibly forcing her to make a very difficult decision; Daphne and Jace may wind up working together; someone from Toby's distant past returns all of a sudden.
Why is it hard for her to deal with?
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Old 07-18-2013, 05:19 AM
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Here was Becky Hartman Edwards exact tweet:

Becky HartmanEdwards ‏@beckhartwards 1 May
There's going to be a fantastic poolside scene in episode 2017. One word- Ty!!

EDITED TO ADD:

Sean Berdy tweeted this picture of himself that was taken today (on July 17th) and he has REALLY short hair, like a military cut. He looks great!
Sean Berdy ‏@SeanBerdy 4h Preparing my golf game for the tournament this weekend in my Wednesday outfit.

https://twitter.com/SeanBerdy/status...572545/photo/1
EDITED (again) TO ADD:

Here's the program description on my DVR box for Monday night's episode "Prudence, Avarice, Lust, Justice, Anger" (2017 the one Lea Thompson directed)
Bay's romantic relationship is becoming too difficult to handle, possibly forcing her to make a very difficult decision; Daphne and Jace may wind up working together; someone from Toby's distant past returns all of a sudden.

yeah that is short. i guess he's probably done filming for the season.

i wonder what sort of difficult decision she's making.
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I think this is new information from the tripod spoiler site. If it's already been posted, I apologize.

http://abcfamilyspoilers.tripod.com/...edatbirth.html
2-20 "The Merrymakers" August 12

Nikki's mom appears again...

Someone visits a free clinic.

A social worker makes an appearance.


2-21 "Departure of Summer" August 19 Summer finale

All good things must come to an end, and the second season will, as the title suggests, be the end of the summer storylines. Will Toby and Nikki tie the knot? Are Daphne's and Bay's summer romances made to last?
Any predictions on Toby/Nikki? Daphne/Jace? Bay/Ty?

I bet the social worker has to do with Angelo's baby. They probably need to check his home to make sure that he has an appropriate place for the baby to live.

Do you think Regina would have to go to a free clinic to take an alcohol test for the baby trial (since she lives with Angelo)? That doesn't really make sense to me. Wouldn't she go to a hospital, if it is for the baby trial? They wouldn't send Regina to a free clinic, right?

A free clinic is more of a place that a teenager would go, or someone without much income. So which one of the teens would go take a "pee test" (as a previous spoiler leaked) at a free clinic? Would Simone?
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Old 07-18-2013, 07:33 AM
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yeah that is short. i guess he's probably done filming for the season.

i wonder what sort of difficult decision she's making.
The fact that she is still with Ty at the end might suggest that she will have to stop hanging-out with Emmett.
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The fact that she is still with Ty at the end might suggest that she will have to stop hanging-out with Emmett.
That's what I think. in order to be with Ty she is not going to hang or be friends with Emmett.
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