Spoilers - Gossip Girl S&S #2468: Group Hug, Guys! We Survived The Worst Hour In Television History!

Chiqa · 12-11-2012, 09:54 AM

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episodes:
6.09 -- The Revengers
MISDEEDS OF THE PAST — After a run-in with an increasingly paranoid Bart (guest star Robert John Burke), Blair (Leighton Meester) grows alarmingly concerned for Chuck’s (Ed Westwick) safety. However, feeling confident that his father will never hurt him, Chuck makes a deal that could change his life. Wanting to make things better for Chuck, Blair devises a plan with the help of Serena (Blake Lively), Georgina (guest star Michelle Trachtenberg) and Sage (guest star Sofia Black-D’Elia) to try and get what they need out of Bart. Meanwhile, Nate's (Chace Crawford) financial dilemma finally lands him in a place that he never thought he would be. Penn Badgley and Kelly Rutherford also star. Patrick Norris directed the episode written by Sara Goodman and Natalie Krinsky (#609).

6.10 New York, I love You XOXO
Written By: Stephanie Savage
Directed By: Mark Piznarski

callsheets;

1 - Serena, 2 - Blair, 3 - Dan, 5 - Nate, 6 - Chuck, 7 - Rufus, 8 - Lily, 9 - Bart, 10 - Georgina, 12 - Ivy
13 - Eleanor, 16 - William VDW, 17 - Steven, 19 - Sage, 20 - Dorota

6.10:
Full

filming pictures:
youknowyouloveme

LotusRises · 12-11-2012, 09:58 AM

Tftnt

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Originally Posted by Scarlet's Walk (View Post)

Exactly! I choose to stay in my DB arc where things are pretty and make sense given everything I watched before. This show is full of contradictive narratives but there's a bright side: anyone can choose their own canon and be happy with it! We dont have to argue anymore, seriously

S6 is a joke in my mind and I choose to laugh about it...works for me tbh

The bright side for me is that Dan and Blair were actual likable characters when they were together. Now they're their worst selves. It makes it easier for me to give less of a sht about what they've done to them. I didn't even hate Blair last night cuz I'm no longer emotionally invested in what either of them say.

Well lucky GG went up for the final 2 eps. Still terrible.

***Jerry D*** · 12-11-2012, 09:58 AM

Thanks for the new thread.

Great title!

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Originally Posted by pandorazparadox (View Post)

I am going to miss Dan and his satchel.

I don't think the DS scenes were retconning because he said that he had lost track of his Serena feelings at some point, which is supposed to refer to the DB time period. So not so much a retcon as badly written. But then everything on the show is. They retconned the DS relationship in season 4 during the Ben storyline where Ben was suddenly the original Dan and Serena's first love, then they retconned the DS relationship with Dan saying he didn't know how to be happy till he met Blair (in the vows), which is dumb because Dan seemed pretty happy throughout the series, he is not Chuck! Then they retconned the DB arc in season 5 so that now everything is Dan's fault and poor Blair. Then they retconned Blair always having had feelings for Chuck. When everything is a retcon, is anything a retcon?

Oh, they also retconned Serena's feelings for Nate in season when he says he had been waiting for this (them getting together) for so long, and Serena says "Me too". I am sorry, when was she waiting for Nate in all of season 1 and 2? And what did it mean when she said Dan was her first love and no one had looked at her like that before and she was missing Dan after he broke up with her? then they re-retconned her feelings in season 4 so that we were back to the original storyline.

It's not like this show had had one consistent narrative, and they suddenly upturned it for DS in this episode. The narrative changes from episode to episode that anything can be a retcon or not, it's just about which twist you choose to take as the real story. And why it is impossible to become invested in any one storyline.

I’ve said this several times before, but your posts are always so well thought out and well written. I completely agree with everything you said here.

Whether we call what’s transpired on this show retconned or just badly written, what it all comes down to is that this is an awful show with producers and writers who didn’t care about telling a compelling story or even following the narrative that they had established in previous seasons.

Scarlet's Walk · 12-11-2012, 10:03 AM

TFTNT! Let's all

We're survivors

From last thread:

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Originally Posted by NaijaChiqa (View Post)

That's why I am not mad this since it's all so ridiculous. We all suspend our disbelief when watching tv but this has taken it to new heights. It's like they are winking at us and telling us to just go with it. But they don't do it in a nice, heartwarming way. It's just plain awful and ridiculous like they think we are stupid.

We don't go by character's actions but by their words. That's the worst part of this season. We just have to accept what the characters say and not what they do. That's why Bart's evil crimes are told through exposition and everyday his sins worsen. They tell us Dan has always been in love with Serena but still in this season, they have him try to get back with Blair (why oh why? This is the one thing that I can say annoyed me. Why do this?). Now, everyone saw how Blair and Chuck didn't try to save Bart even though he was begging them. They will explain it in a way that makes it look like CB were morally right because if Bart had lived he would have single-handedly started WW3.

Word to all of this, especially the bolded

This is the firts time I've watched a show that tells me what I'm supposed to believe it was the story all along while actions tell me a very different thing

I just can't take it seriously.

I'm just happy that I can finally be over my hate for everything they have done this season. I can finally laugh it off and be happy that I loved my characters and couples when they were together before this season happened (including DS in S1 & NB in S2). I don't hate this show anymore, I'm just going by Rory Gilmore's motto:

Lotus: Yup, MTE

***Jerry D*** · 12-11-2012, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LotusRises (View Post)

The bright side for me is that Dan and Blair were actual likable characters when they were together. Now they're their worst selves. It makes it easier for me to give less of a sht about what they've done to them. I didn't even hate Blair last night cuz I'm no longer emotionally invested in what either of them say.

I completely agree. I thought that Dan and Blair brought out the best in each other, and now they’ve become completely unlikable caricatures of who they were. I really had liked their journey, because they went from enemies, to frenemies, to reluctant friends, to real friends, and then they fell in love, but all that was thrown away to go back to Dan and Serena and Chuck and Blair, but all that progress didn’t have to be thrown away. Dan and Blair could have realized that they still loved Chuck and Serena and parted as friends, but instead, their friendship and everything about them was completely destroyed.

lilylovesrufus · 12-11-2012, 10:04 AM

TFTNT

bringing that over

i am actually on barts side. nobody earns so a cruel dead.

i might wish bart and william the worst. especially william. but i say, then put both in prison and throw away the key.. especially by william
but this scene with the rooftop that is really

where are the dammed writers,, where are this idiots which made this ****?

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Chiqa · 12-11-2012, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by LotusRises (View Post)

Tftnt

The bright side for me is that Dan and Blair were actual likable characters when they were together. Now they're their worst selves. It makes it easier for me to give less of a sht about what they've done to them. I didn't even hate Blair last night cuz I'm no longer emotionally invested in what either of them say.

Well lucky GG went up for the final 2 eps. Still terrible.

I've been reading comments in DB threads about how people mourn their friendship and I never got it till today. Like it just hit me that they didn't even leave anything for those who liked them together. I don't know what DV was like but on other shows, when relationships end, they don't drag this awfulness through it where you can't even enjoy the scenes. Usually, if there's anger, there's pain behind it. So you can enjoy those scenes. But for DB, there's anger and it's just hate and plain awfulness. I knew they are writing these scenes for a certain faction of the audience but it's still ridiculous. And it's so imbalanced. The "love" was heavily from one person. The hate is also heavily from one person, which happens to be the person who was treated better. WTF is this? LOL

ale-la-pazza1 · 12-11-2012, 10:09 AM

tftnt

Barstool Prophet · 12-11-2012, 10:12 AM

Tftnt!

I love your titles guys.

Aylo · 12-11-2012, 10:13 AM

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Oh believe me, this is not the way I wanted this to go down at all - but my expectations of this show have been so low since S3 that nothing could shock me anymore. I felt bad for fans in S5 that somehow thought/hoped DB were "special" and would be treated differently. Any hope I had for good quality drama was gone after 3x17.

4x02 (train station?? Was that that ep?) was the most genuinely moved I've been by a GG scene since (though for some reason Chucks "don't marry him" line in the 100th ep gutted me) - I can still get super excited and invested in CB scenes because to me the chemistry is still there, but I gave up on their "journey" some time ago. But I'm obviously still a fan and will immensely enjoy their HEA just because I've been waiting for it for 6 years and EL always move me. But happy with the approach? Hell no. And very very few are.

ICA. Though, I'd say for me the show started going down hill in 3x13 and the (2nd) retcon of Chuck's mom. There are moments that I can pick out from seasons 4 & 5 that, taken out of context, I really do love, But in context, their journey (together and individually) was not at all what I would have wanted for them. I can't say much for the Twitterverse or Tumbler, but I don't know any CB fans on here that are truly happy. It's mostly a lot of "this doesn't make sense, why are they doing this, this is awful...uggg whatever just give me my ending and be done with it!"

Thinking back to my reactions to back half of season 3 and comparing it to now, it's a world of difference. I was outraged and in complete disbelief. I jumped on any theories that said that Elizabeth was a scam and there was more to the story with the IP. When it was all said and done, I (like a fool admittedly) waited for real fall out.

So now here we are in the last season and the show is doing this that I would have freaked out over normally, but I'm not. Because I've learned my lesson and I'm over it. I'm not happy with anything re: Bart, but I'm not outraged. And I literally feel nothing when it comes to the way his (2nd) death played out. This show is what it is. And I've long since accepted it for what it is.

Bree347 · 12-11-2012, 10:16 AM

tftnt

LotusRises · 12-11-2012, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NaijaChiqa (View Post)

I've been reading comments in DB threads about how people mourn their friendship and I never got it till today. Like it just hit me that they didn't even leave anything for those who liked them together. I don't know what DV was like but on other shows, when relationships end, they don't drag this awfulness through it where you can't even enjoy the scenes. Usually, if there's anger, there's pain behind it. So you can enjoy those scenes. But for DB, there's anger and it's just hate and plain awfulness. I knew they are writing these scenes for a certain faction of the audience but it's still ridiculous. And it's so imbalanced. The "love" was heavily from one person. The hate is also heavily from one person, which happens to be the person who was treated better. WTF is this? LOL

Forcing the hatred and the retconning actually is making it easier for me to enjoy prior DB scenes because I know the writers are full and well just catering to a group of fans and are putting no thought into it. Even DS and NS remained friends after season 3/4. DV got destroyed because Jessica was leaving. DB gets destroyed cuz we can't have them overshadowing CB/DS(who's storylines this season are piss-poor anyway).

hardcandy4uM · 12-11-2012, 10:22 AM

so how are they going to promote this finale episode?

lilylovesrufus · 12-11-2012, 10:24 AM

i hope they forget it to promote it.

klara_bee · 12-11-2012, 10:25 AM

the tv.com recap makes an interesting (and lol-tastic) point:

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For whatever reason, perhaps because "The Revengers" was the penultimate episode of the series and or perhaps because the production team realized that they had some leftover money that they just forgot to give Barry Watson, but this episode mixed up the show's aesthetic a little, and that was nice. Director Patrick Norris, clearly in on the joke that is Gossip Girl's existence, decided to shoot a number of the scenes like this was actually a superhero movie. The camera moved a lot more than it typically does, there were some diverse angles, and even in on-location scenes, the episode wasn't over-reliant on super-tight closeups like it usually is. Gossip Girl's visual palette has grown so stale over the years that it was nice to be reminded that the lighting and locations actually can add up to a nice image or two.

Gossip Girl "The Revengers" Review: Chuck Bass, Batman Wannabe - News - TV.com

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