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401-Growing Pains-October 11
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Vampire Diaries Episodes 401-402 Casting Sides Info
Who's coming to Mystic Falls?
Who are the New character set to premiere this fall?
TVguide: Elena will remember the "i love you" from season 2


402-Memorial
written by Julie Plec and Jose Molina
April and Connor appear for the first time in this episode
A little scoop about Connor
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JP talks about Triangle Nr. 2 K/C/T
Phoebe Tonkin casted
Exclusive: ‘Vampire Diaries’ Producer Julie Plec Talks Vamp Elena, New Vamp Hunter…
Julie Plec explains the Triangles on the show
Two vamps on a stake in 1114 A.D.
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Who kills Pastor Young and flashback reveal
The Vampire Diaries: So, When Will Elena Have Steamy Vampire Sex?
Vampire Diaries Ian Somerhalder,Nina Dobrev Dished New Elena Compelled Memory Spoilers | Hollywood Hills
‘The Vampire Diaries’ Season 4 gets an extra episode as the love triangle gets bloody - Zap2it
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'Vampire Diaries' Boss Spills Season 4 Secrets (Q&A)
'Vampire Diaries' scoop: Another Mystic Falls death?
Julie Plec teases Elena's transformation, a new hunter on 'The Vampire Diaries'
Paul Wesley interview and joking around
Candice Accola on helping Elena and on Klaus in Tyler's body
Season 4 Secrets
Hayley Spoilers
Post with Sides info about Hayley
TV Addict Spoilers: Bonnie getting close to a charming professor, who likes the occult
E!ONline Spoilers: Connor's After Elena?
Julie Plec interview, finale and season 4
Ausiello Spoilers: Revenge on Rebekah?
E!Online spoilers: Bad boy Damon's not pining
TVGuide spoilers: Does damon stand a chance?
E!Online spoilers: Matt's tough year
Roerig and Trevino on Matt and Tyler
Steven McQueen spoils Jeremy

Julie Plec video interview after Comic-Con
Comic-Con Press Room More from Comic-Con
Comic-Con Elena's transition, the original original witch, and season 4
Comic-Con Live Blog

Todd Williams to Go Hunting on The Vampire Diaries
E!SpoilerChat: Elena remembering will be unfortunate for a certain couple
Ausiello Scoop: Damon's revenge?
Stefan Will Lean on Caroline During Elena's Transition
Kevin Williamson: Elena’s Season 4 Journey ‘Won’t Be Easy’
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'Elena's vampire side may see Damon in a new light as the love triangle deepens
'Julie Plec talks season finale shocker!
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‘Season 4 Spoilers : Julie Plec Previews What’s To Come
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Julie Plec teases Elena's transformation, a new hunter on 'The Vampire Diaries'

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At the end of season three, The Vampire Diaries did something showrunner Julie Plec had once promised herself she would never do: she turned Elena (Nina Dobrev) into a vampire. But while she once read the source material novels and vowed to do something different, she realized pretty early on that she needed to raise the stakes and what better way to do that than to play with the hero/heroine dynamic?

"We did an about-face as we were breaking season two and said 'You know what? We can get there by the end of season two, and it would be pretty bad-ass!' But we put the kibosh on that and decided 'Not yet, but soon.' And so, when we started season three, we knew that's what we would do, and everything that we did, every choice that we made, all season long was leading to that moment," Plec said.

"Elena's classic promise is she's never really going to be able to make choices [like to turn] for herself," Plec continued. "She's got Jeremy as Jeremy's only remaining guardian, so she realizes very quickly [in season three] how selfish it would be to just leave him, but that doesn't mean she's going to go gently into the transition. The first episode deals with that."

Therefore, the first episode will also see Jeremy (Steven R. McQueen) reinvigorating a desire to protect his sister much the way she has vowed to protect him.

"He's going to feel very committed to protecting her as we get a new vampire hunter that comes to town," Plec revealed. "He gets put right smack in the middle of his sister's secret and protecting it against this guy who takes a special interest in [him]. We'll find out in a few episodes in as to why he has an interest in him."

Calling Jeremy "as always, a nice work in progress," Plec wouldn't say whether or not he was completely ready to take on the new hunter Connor (Todd Williams). However, there are at least two other men on the show who will always fight for Elena, and may be more equipped to deal with such threats. Plec previewed that Damon (Ian Somerhalder) and Stefan (Paul Wesley) will be as protective as always about her, as well, just in new ways.

"Now she doesn't physically need protecting, but emotionally, she needs mentoring," Plec pointed out.

"It's a shift in the hero/heroine and the ingenue dynamic. But the biggest shift will be in how the brothers see each other. They've been closer than ever, but they do not see eye to eye about what Elena should be and how...A lot of the season is about 'Who is Elena now? And how do they feel about who Elena is now?'"

In keeping with the physical transformations that kick off season three, Plec also promised the return of Joseph Morgan as Klaus, coming back "singed and burned and dusty and crusty." After a "nice blood cocktail he will be back to business"-- and pretty quickly because Plec doesn't want to lose the power of Morgan on-screen.

Klaus returning means Tyler (Michael Trevino) will go back to just being Tyler, without memories of what happened but getting an "earful" about what went down. Caroline (Candice Accola) and Tyler may still have a solid relationship "for now," but Tyler and Klaus will continue to butt heads, often times over her.

"Tyler and Klaus' relationship is going to be a big part of the first half of the season. We're playing with [the love triangle] in that Klaus isn't giving up any time soon. He's just going to adopt new means to try and break them up-- almost as if it's a sport! He's getting a perverse little thrill over trying to find ways to make that relationship end."

And then there is Bonnie (Kat Graham) who will see a new relationship of her own emerge-- with a new mentor who Plec said is a "professor at the college where her grandmother used to teach."

"We're not, by any means, trying to fill Alaric's shoes," Plec explained, "but we definitely like populating our universe!"

Plec called The Vampire Diaries a "marathon" of a show that is "only at mile thirteen." That may be the half-way point to most traditional marathons, but this one certainly doesn't show any sign of slowing down!

The Vampire Diaries returns to The CW on October 11th 2012 at 8 p.m.
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Elena’s struggle to transition to a vampire might just be the least of her worries when The Vampire Diaries kick-off its fourth season on Oct. 11. According to exec producer Julie Plec, there will be a much more pressing problem at hand. “When Alaric Saltzman told the council that the town was filled with vampires, [he] told a lot of details about a lot of people that in the first episode back we’ll see have created a little bit of a domino effect,” says Plec, who teased a “powerful, surprising death sequence” during the premiere.

As a result, the big question in the first episode is not whether Elena will feed on blood, but rather how she does it, when she does it, and whether she’ll even survive the day.

Of course, it shouldn’t be too difficult for her to make it through. After all, she’s got two very able Salvatore brothers by her side. Both Stefan and Damon will help school Elena in vampology 101 this season…though they won’t exactly be on the same page. “They’re two very different kinds of vampires and they’re going to have two very different points of view about what kind of vampire Elena should be,” says Plec. “It’s going to make them fight a little.”

According to Plec, Elena will feel torn between each brother’s perspective and that will impact her relationships with each of them. Though the direction of those relationships remains to be seen, Plec made it clear that the love triangle is beginning a new chapter. Of course, that doesn’t necessarily mean Elena’s going to ditch Stefan — but she obviously still has some unfinished business with Damon. By the fourth episode, expect to see the two drawn together in a moment sure to spark a whole lot of fan fodder. “There’s a really interesting moment between Damon and Elena where she’s acting a little bit out of character and they both get caught up in a moment,” teases Plec.

As for the show’s other love triangle, Plec says that Klaus — who will be back to his own body fairly soon — will find “sportier more dastardly ways of driving a wedge” between Caroline and Tyler. In other words, the Klaus/Caroline/Tyler saga is far from over. She explains: “The finale wasn’t putting a final point on any relationship. If anything it was just creating a new beginning for all the relationships. Things are going to be evolving and changing for all points of all triangles on this show.”

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– Bonnie will do everything and anything to prevent Elena’s transition. Whether or not she’s successful and the consequences of the kind of magic she taps into will impact her arch season.

– According to Plec, the new vampire hunter headed to Mystic Falls is “very hardcore, he’s very skilled he’s very strong. He kind of takes our heroes by surprise, in that they think they can wipe the floor with him pretty easily and quickly, and he sort of stuns them with being difficult to defeat early on. They’re going to realize they’ve got a bigger problem than they’re used to.”

– Klaus’s decision to stick around Mystic Falls will be tied to the vampire hunter. Says Plec: “He definitely has an agenda that he wants to service which we’ll start to get a hint at about three episodes, four episodes in, and it will involve how he feels about the existence of this hunter.”

– Klaus isn’t the only Original sticking around. We haven’t seen the last of Rebekah or her other brothers and sisters. “We’ll definitely get glimpses of the other Originals over the course of the year,” says Plec. The exec producer also hinted that we may learn more about Esther’s backstory. “One of the things that we’ve always said in the writer’s room is Esther’s creation of the original vampires was predicated on a spell that she already had, so where did she get that? And what does that mean?” says Plec. “Does it mean that there are vampires that pre-date the original vampires?”

– The fourth episode may feature a memorable Elena-Damon scene, but Plec says one of her favorite Damon moments of all-time happens in the second episode (so keep an eye out!).

– Speaking of Delena… Elena will remember the moments and confessions that Damon compelled her to forget and it will confirm that she wasn’t wrong in believing there was good in him. Though don’t expect a recently rejected Damon to be receptive to her realizations. “I think for him it’s just like, ‘Yep, well, that’s in the past. That was then, this is now. You made your choice,’” said Plec. “Damon’s not going to be sitting around moping, that’s for sure. He’s going to have a little bit of a ‘tude probably.”

– Can’t wait to see Elena partake in a little vampire on vampire action? You may have to wait a couple of episodes. “We’re about to start shooting episode 3 and we have not yet shown a completed act of vampire sex so it is going to be something that will happen eventually,” says Plec.”But I will not say how, when, why, with who, or if it’s awesome or not.” (Let’s face it, we all know it’s going to be awesome).

– Though you may have heard otherwise, Stefan will not be getting a new love interest — at least not anytime soon. “I actually don’t even know where that came from,” says Plec. “I think Paul’s talking wish fulfillment.”

– We may get to see the friendship between Stefan and Caroline develop more this season. “What I’m hoping is that Caroline, as an advocate of the Stefan school of how to be a vampire, can be a support system for him that he really needs, especially as things get difficult in Elena’s transition,” says Plec.
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The Hollywood Reporter: In one of the first few episodes of season four, there are rumblings that there may be a "surprise" return. What intel can you offer there?

Julie Plec: I can say that what [Bonnie] did, the choice she made in the last episode – to swap Tyler (Michael Trevino) and Klaus’ (Joseph Morgan) bodies – comes back to bite her in the butt a little bit. Not from her friends, who would understand why she did what she did; she did it to save their lives. But the witches aren’t necessarily too happy with Bonnie (Kat Graham) dabbling in the dark side so she goes through a pretty rough time in the first episode as she tries to do what she does best, which is save her friends and finds the witches pushing back a little too hard.

THR: Bonnie and Elena (Nina Dobrev) seem to both be dealing with their own issues at the moment. How soon will we see them come together?

Plec: Bonnie is going to be going through her own emotional crisis at the beginning of the season as Elena goes through hers. It’ll take the girls a couple of episodes before they realize that they can go through it together. I think that the good news is that Elena’s friendships will remain solid as she herself is crumbling a little bit.

THR: The season three finale cliffhanger had the Twittersphere abuzz. How has reaction been?

Plec: The reaction has, honestly, been extraordinary. If people are hating it, then no one’s told me and thank god, because I wouldn’t want to know that. We were toying with it for a long time and we started season three knowing how he would end season three so we were able to lay out all the groundwork for it really quietly and subtly so it makes sense that this girl is mourning who she used to be and wondering if her parents would still be proud of her and missing her human life before vampires were in it and making this choice between these two brothers and what they mean to her, to take her to that point and to rip the rug out from under her and have everything change is almost like we’re starting over. We’re telling the same series all over again but with a different point of view and a different context.

THR: How does Elena sparing Matt’s (Zach Roerig) life in the episode affect his standing and outlook?

Plec: As Damon says to him early on, “Why do you get to live?” What the hell was so special about you that you still are breathing air on this earth and Matt takes that to heart a little bit. He feels the guilt, the survivor’s guilt, because he feels why me and not her. He feels like he’s got to earn that for her and be that for her. We’re going to see Matt be a champion for Elena. It’s going to be a nice friendship. Matt’s going to be strong and he’s going to try and stay strong. It’s not going to be easy for him. He knows he’s got to live well to earn the fact that he’s still alive and be a man about it.

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THR: Will Elena turn to Matt in a significant way?

Plec: All I can say is, as a human he is definitely a blood source so we’ll see where that goes.

THR: Is there hope for more Matt and Rebekah (Claire Holt)?

Plec: Rebekah, poor thing, is still harboring her secret fling for Matt – and it isn’t so secret any more. First thing that she tries to do with him is apologize for running him off the road and he pretty much tells her to go to hell. If she’s ever going to get any attention with Matt, she’s going to have to change her behavior and go about it a different way.

THR: How do Damon (Ian Somerhalder) and Stefan’s (Paul Wesley) reactions to Elena’s new state of being affect their relationship?

Plec: They definitely are dealing with [Elena's change] in the same in that they are both traumatized by it but differently in that they both have different points of view as to how she should be living her life as a vampire, what kind of vampire could be or should be or that they want her to be. It’s going to put them at odds which is a shame because they’ve never been stronger than at the end of last season and I’m hoping that they can survive this new problem in their relationship.

THR: Does that mean that the love triangle will, in a sense, be put on the backburner?

Plec: The love triangle is always there underneath. It’s not driving the show. Elena is changing as a character and Stefan is changing as a result of what she’s going through, Damon is changing as a result of what she’s going through so there’s always going to be shifts and turns and evolution of their relationships to each other that are always going to be right there.

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THR: Several months ago, you mentioned to us that you were toying with a new villain for season four. Has that character been created?

Plec: Yup and I ain’t sayin’. It’s funny, I realized as we look back at the first three seasons, we’ve always known who our [villain] was – at least we thought we knew – from the very beginning. This year, we’re trying something a little bit different where we’re not so sure who’s pulling the strings and why. The mystery of that is going to be something new and different for us.

THR: A few new characters are coming into Mystic Falls, like a vampire hunter (Todd Williams) and a 16-year-old tied to the Gilberts (Grace Phipps). Who else can we expect?

Plec: We’ve got a new character named Hailey who will be showing up around the third episode, who Tyler is going to know from his own past. Bonnie’s going to find a new mentor in a professor at the local university, where her grandmother used to teach. For Bonnie, who has been absent with any good mentor figure, she’s going to connect with this guy. He’s going to be very, very, very, very brilliant and well-versed in the world of the supernatural. We haven’t cast Hailey or the professor yet.

THR: How early in the season will we see Joseph Morgan (aka Klaus) back?

Plec: You’ll see Joseph Morgan sooner than you think. He won’t be gone for long. In present day, as Klaus, in your face.

The Vampire Diaries premieres Oct. 11 at 8 p.m. on the CW.
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So... Bonnie's love interest is gonna be this professor? He better not be an old dude. And how can Bonnie prevent Elena's transition? And if this is even possible, how come they didn't try to make her prevent Caroline's?

And Big Bad Klaus cares about breaking up two high school kids? How the mighty have fallen.
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Spoiler Alert: Although the following post is a speculative one based on recent clues from the show’s cast and crew, please do not read any further if you want to keep Season 4 of The Vampire Diaries a complete surprise!

We recently brought you all news that along with a great deal of pain, Elena Gilbert will be enjoying some pleasure as well. According to the show’s creative team, Mystic Falls’ prettiest doppelganger will experience her “first” sexual awakening as a fresh vamp sooner rather than later. The only detail the showrunners have kept mum about though is exactly who Miss Gilbert will be shacking up with in The Vampire Diaries Season 4. So will be the lucky fellow?

While it’s hard to picture an individual as loyal and level-headed as Elena choosing someone other than her boo from the start, Stefan Salvatore, viewers have been flirting with the notion of Matt Donovan and Elijah Mikaelsen as her potential lover. However, recent hints from executive producer Julie Plec give us reason to believe that the stud in question may actually be Damon. Check out juicy details Julie shared with Entertainment Weekly:

According to Plec, Elena will feel torn between each brother’s perspective and that will impact her relationships with each of them. Though the direction of those relationships remains to be seen, Plec made it clear that the love triangle is beginning a new chapter. Of course, that doesn’t necessarily mean Elena’s going to ditch Stefan — but she obviously still has some unfinished business with Damon. By the fourth episode, expect to see the two drawn together in a moment sure to spark a whole lot of fan fodder. “There’s a really interesting moment between Damon and Elena where she’s acting a little bit out of character and they both get caught up in a moment,” teases Plec.

It’s been one of the hottest topics of discussion ever since viewers discovered that Elena met Damon before she ever laid eyes on Stefan’s hot back in the pilot episode: Will Elena remember every moment that Damon had compelled her to forget, or will she act indifferent for the sake of her relationship with Stefan? The few times that Damon chose to erase her memory, he had not only pinpointed her thirst for passion and adventure, but also confessed that he loved her purely madly deeply. Taking this recent storyline development — namely that Elena will be acting out of character — into account has us thinking that perhaps Elena will finally dare to push the limits with the older Salvatore brother. Plus, the two of them have plenty of chemistry and might begin again right where they left off at the motel (before Jeremy so rudely interrupted).

However, despite the potential good news for Delena shippers, don’t expect Damon to leap at Elena’s every beck and call this season. He’s no longer going to be clinging to her like a wet rag, batting his long lashes every time she turns the corner, or worshiping the very ground she walks on. In fact, this time around, he’s going to be the chasee, NOT the chaser:

Elena will remember the moments and confessions that Damon compelled her to forget and it will confirm that she wasn’t wrong in believing there was good in him. Though don’t expect a recently rejected Damon to be receptive to her realizations. “I think for him it’s just like, ‘Yep, well, that’s in the past. That was then, this is now. You made your choice,’” said Plec. “Damon’s not going to be sitting around moping, that’s for sure. He’s going to have a little bit of a ‘tude probably.”

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So... Bonnie's love interest is gonna be this professor? He better not be an old dude. And how can Bonnie prevent Elena's transition? And if this is even possible, how come they didn't try to make her prevent Caroline's?

And Big Bad Klaus cares about breaking up two high school kids? How the mighty have fallen.
Answer: Because it´s Elena this time.
I understand that she couldn´t do it for Caroline because she already transitioned and Bonnie wasn´t that experienced in season 2, but they definitely should have mentioned it when it came to Abby. It´s her mother afterall.

I can´t with this stuff. It´s ridiculous.

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– Speaking of Delena… Elena will remember the moments and confessions that Damon compelled her to forget and it will confirm that she wasn’t wrong in believing there was good in him. Though don’t expect a recently rejected Damon to be receptive to her realizations. “I think for him it’s just like, ‘Yep, well, that’s in the past. That was then, this is now. You made your choice,’” said Plec. “Damon’s not going to be sitting around moping, that’s for sure. He’s going to have a little bit of a ‘tude probably.”
I´m confused about that ... why should she think because of this compulsion that there is good in him? He violated her mind just for his own selfish reasons imo. There was nothing selfless or good about that. He only wanted to say that he loved her but didn´t want her to remember that. In season 2 they weren´t even that close. Elena was with Stefan and had no intentions to leave him ... so there was nothing to let go. JP must watch a totally different show.
And the other compulsion was totally retcon and OOC ... so I don´t even want to consider it.


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– Klaus’s decision to stick around Mystic Falls will be tied to the vampire hunter. Says Plec: “He definitely has an agenda that he wants to service which we’ll start to get a hint at about three episodes, four episodes in, and it will involve how he feels about the existence of this hunter.”
Of course everything has to be connected.
I just don´t understand, why the gang can´t compel this guy (because he is human) and kill him together as a group. They went against Alaric together and he was an Original, the same goes for Finn. What is that special about the vampire hunter and why should we fear him?
Alaric was "hardcore" aswell and in the end he didn´t kill anybody.

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Of course now they have to go back and probably retcon because they created a vampire mythology that is only 1000 years old. We will meet older vampires for sure.
And I´m not interested in Esther, I want to see Ayanna because she knew that Esther shouldn´t do it ... and also she is Bonnie´s ancestor so I want to see more of her.

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There was good in Damon when he did that, even people who aren't Damon fans have acknowledged that it's one of the most unselfish Damon moments ever. It doesn't matter if they were close or not, he was close with her brother, and he needed to say it to her, but he compelled her to forget, because of how complicated things would get if she knew. Of course, that's just my opinion, as is yours, but to me, that was one of the most unselfish things he's ever done.
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There was good in Damon when he did that, even people who aren't Damon fans have acknowledged that it's one of the most unselfish Damon moments ever. It doesn't matter if they were close or not, he was close with her brother, and he needed to say it to her, but he compelled her to forget, because of how complicated things would get if she knew. Of course, that's just my opinion, as is yours, but to me, that was one of the most unselfish things he's ever done.
Yeah we have to agree to disagree on that. I just saw the scene as Damon couldn´t bear the thought of only him knewing it and wanting to voice it out but at the same time he didn´t want to face the consequences of that.
But in the end she probably knew it already, she said so in the finale and this was if we go after Mystic Falls timeline probably not even one month after "Rose".

I just don´t understand what it would change for them if Elena remembers this stuff and why Damon has to call her out on it like "You made your choice" ... it´s not her fault that he compelled her twice.


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We know that a couple of new characters are joining "The Vampire Diaries" early this season, but one person we won't be seeing in the first few episodes is Bonnie's love interest, Jamie. "Jamie hasn't shown up yet and we're four scripts in," executive producer Julie Plec tells us. "He's still a factor in our minds in that he still exists and they have a connection and a bond. We just haven't decided how much more to explore that. We're keeping it on the back burner for now."
Nooo please keep him away. please don´t come back again.
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:07 AM
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Doesn't Klaus have anything better to do chase after a couple of high-school kids?

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So there it is confirmed that Hailely is a part of Tyler's storyline. I really hope this isn't going to the predictable route. For ex. Take a perfectly smart guy who has ironclad feelings for a girl (Caroline) and enter new sexy girl who guy has a past with and they dumb him so they could do a questionable storyline. No thanks.
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Thanks for the new thread.
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Will Klaus manipulate Tyler and Caroline's relationship? Hell yes! Klaus loves to play so of course he is going to try and manipulate Tyer away from Caroline. Why wouldn't he? Tyler betrayed Klaus and he has the one thing Klaus hasn't been able to get...Caroline. Klaus is a manipulative bastard. I don't know why anybody would think he wouldn't do something. Klaus is going to derail every character's life in some way this season. He lost his doppleganger, he almost was dead again, he is pissed! I think the manipulation route is better than the whole Klaus vs. the Scooby Gang plotline that everyone was complaining about last season.

This fandom is crazy! The chances of Tyler and Caroline skipping along happily the entirety of the show is practically nonexistant. They need a story which means they some sort of conflict. If you want them to have more screentime, it means that they will be faced with conflicts. Otherwise, they will be boring and will get less screentime.
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