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Tati_SwanJones 01-14-2017 10:25 PM

Robert's contract was supposed to end last year. he is still around.

just because Jen gave an interview saying her contract ends in April doesnt mean the rest of the cast are in the same situation.

Radames 01-14-2017 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tati_SwanJones (Post 88866956)
Robert's contract was supposed to end last year. he is still around.

just because Jen gave an interview saying her contract ends in April doesnt mean the rest of the cast are in the same situation.

It just is very uncomfortable and a lot of people are thinking CS are getting sidelined again and mainly because JMO is leaving so Hook going on these adventures with other characters is them getting the audience ready to kill off Emma or end her story and keep Hook around and show that Hook can be apart of other storylines besides Emma. It's just not cool. CS haven't had any scenes that we know of since 11, when Emma comes back from Wish realm. It just really stinks.

I can promise you that will not be successful should that be the case. Emma and Hook are a packaged deal, none of this either/or BS.

scififan2009 01-14-2017 10:49 PM

People assume too much.

Tati_SwanJones 01-14-2017 11:52 PM

you're jumping into conclusions just based of the lack of spoilers, set reports of jen and colin filming together.
they might have had filmed in studio, we also have no idea where the story is heading. why we have Killian working with Aladdin/Jasmine Ariel/Eric then Emma/Snow/Regina (:rolleyes) and that other dude! and there's Emma/Gideon. it doesnt make any sense because we dont know what the hell is happening.

and yes CS is package deal. I dont see A&E killing their lead female character and leaving Killian alone, losing his true love, Henry losing his mother, Snow/Charming losing their daughter after everything ....6 seasons will be for nothing.I would like to think they are smarter than that, and learned the lesson after working on LOST.

but for Jen said Im certain she will agree for another season so they can wrap her story properly.

Radames 01-15-2017 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Tati_SwanJones (Post 88867589)
you're jumping into conclusions just based of the lack of spoilers, set reports of jen and colin filming together.
they might have had filmed in studio, we also have no idea where the story is heading. why we have Killian working with Aladdin/Jasmine Ariel/Eric then Emma/Snow/Regina (:rolleyes) and that other dude! and there's Emma/Gideon. it doesnt make any sense because we dont know what the hell is happening.

and yes CS is package deal. I dont see A&E killing their lead female character and leaving Killian alone, losing his true love, Henry losing his mother, Snow/Charming losing their daughter after everything ....6 seasons will be for nothing.I would like to think they are smarter than that, and learned the lesson after working on LOST.

but for Jen said Im certain she will agree for another season so they can wrap her story properly.

LBR with the ratings the show has they can only justify another season. S7 would be the end.

They need to have Jen stick to wrap the show properly, not just her story. There's no OUAT w/out Jennifer unless after S7 they completely reboot with new characters and everything. CS deserve their happy ending.

tactic2016 01-15-2017 02:58 AM

So do not say that they are going to be in an epic adventure if it is not true, nor do we delude the fans that we follow from the beginning the development of this pair.

You have to understand that you can criticize the show if we do not like how it is developing, many of you have criticized something that you do not like, because we have the right to do the same.

I at least do not expect anything from this show already, with the disappointment that I am, so I do not have any illusions, that seen the seen will be much better and the disappointment that is great will be much smaller.

scififan2009 01-15-2017 03:23 AM

Yes, it's disappointing. But why would you doubt the very people who made CS canon in the first place? Same writers, same characters. Same 50/50 chance. They must have a plan for them, and Emma's savior arc. We just don't know what that is yet.

Why assume the worst when we're only half way through?

tactic2016 01-15-2017 03:46 AM

And how many things said and have not been fulfilled of this couple or other couples in the year we have not said that it is the year of snow and has not been fulfilled, they did not say that I would see domestic moments of CS and alone There was one in 6.06, so I do not believe anything they say.

¿And why can not we assume the opposite?

scififan2009 01-15-2017 03:54 AM

Anyway. So JMo, Ginny and Lana filmed for episode 15. This could be for the start of the episode or somewhere in the middle. I wonder what storyline will be taking place in Storybrooke during the Agrabah stuff?

tactic2016 01-15-2017 04:01 AM

I'm sure it must be something with Gideon, and nothing to do with Agrabah.

scififan2009 01-15-2017 04:11 AM

I see from the 6x11 pics he's already inherited his father's manners. It's very rude trying to kill someone without their permission.

Emma might have foreknowledge of the battle. But that's beside the point.

fox24 01-15-2017 06:42 AM

Lol I am not worried. Jen is still filming a lot and I had the impression from her interview that it the show is renewed shell definitely sign for s7

scififan2009 01-15-2017 07:10 AM

That's the spirit.

Gwen107 01-15-2017 09:31 AM

You cannot even go by this argument that a character or a couple "deserves" something because so many terrible things happend on this show to characters that did not at all "deserve" that or characters who "deserved" happiness just as much as others get a lot of unhappiness or death. To me, I do not a season 7 when I look at their storytelling now and as long as they know soon enough so they can put in the ending they want it is totally ok for me if it ends with the sixth season or a very short 7th season because I do not think the show like it is now will ever get better again.

scififan2009 01-15-2017 09:38 AM

Why does it have to be Sunday? If they were filming we could use spoilers to drown out all this negativity. *sigh*

Radames 01-15-2017 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gwen107 (Post 88871676)
You cannot even go by this argument that a character or a couple "deserves" something because so many terrible things happend on this show to characters that did not at all "deserve" that or characters who "deserved" happiness just as much as others get a lot of unhappiness or death. To me, I do not a season 7 when I look at their storytelling now and as long as they know soon enough so they can put in the ending they want it is totally ok for me if it ends with the sixth season or a very short 7th season because I do not think the show like it is now will ever get better again.

Emma our titular character who has gone through worse things then anybody. Whom had a villains background yet didn't sway, deserves a happy ending. I don't care what you think about her, but she our main character that we have seen her story develop for 6, seasons has earned that.

She's way more important or relevant then Robin or Neal ever was.

CS have gone through hell and back literally for one another, fought everything from the darkness to death for one another. They have earned a happy ending. A beautiful relationship we've seen develop for 5+ years.

I do agree that a 7th season would be it and I hope we do get one with all of our main characters in it.

RubyTuesdays 01-15-2017 10:32 AM

The show's title is Once Upon a Time, not Emma Swan. Regardless of what you think her importance is she is not a titular character.

You can think she and Hook and their happiness is more important than others, but that's still only your opinion and others can and will disagree.

T'Lynn 01-15-2017 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tactic2016 (Post 88869005)
And how many things said and have not been fulfilled of this couple or other couples in the year we have not said that it is the year of snow and has not been fulfilled, they did not say that I would see domestic moments of CS and alone There was one in 6.06, so I do not believe anything they say.

¿And why can not we assume the opposite?

I don't agree ... this has been a great year for Snowing.

Before anyone jumps all over that comment, I mean it in the way the writers approach the story.

They had two flashbacks with Snowing and an AU version of them .. not to mention a whole episode centered on their love complete with a montage of the highlights. And then the sleeping curse with some great angst ...

But when the writers say Snowing they aren't talking about the ship ... they are talking about Snow & Charming. Snow has had some great scenes with Regina and that relationship has gotten a lot of attention ... Charming has gotten and is getting more backstory and a meaty storyline about how he's going to go on without Snow there to ground him.

So, the writers are fulfilling what they said but the fandom thinks a year of Snowing should be about them together. And at this point I think nothing will ever be enough for the fandom ... which is the case with shows when they get farther along.

I am very happy to see a pic of Ginny and Jen. I feel like it's been so long since we've seen the two of them (on screen or off) so I can't wait for that.

Radames 01-15-2017 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RubyTuesdays (Post 88872301)
The show's title is Once Upon a Time, not Emma Swan. Regardless of what you think her importance is she is not a titular character.

You can think she and Hook and their happiness is more important than others, but that's still only your opinion and others can and will disagree.

Emma Swan is the character whom we as the audience were introduced to with this world and all it's inhabitants for the first time.

She is the character from which we see a regular person's point of view that is not a fantasy character.

She is this shows titular character, a pity you don't see that.


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I don't agree ... this has been a great year for Snowing.

Before anyone jumps all over that comment, I mean it in the way the writers approach the story.

They had two flashbacks with Snowing and an AU version of them .. not to mention a whole episode centered on their love complete with a montage of the highlights. And then the sleeping curse with some great angst ...

But when the writers say Snowing they aren't talking about the ship ... they are talking about Snow & Charming. Snow has had some great scenes with Regina and that relationship has gotten a lot of attention ... Charming has gotten and is getting more backstory and a meaty storyline about how he's going to go on without Snow there to ground him.

So, the writers are fulfilling what they said but the fandom thinks a year of Snowing should be about them together. And at this point I think nothing will ever be enough for the fandom ... which is the case with shows when they get farther along.

I am very happy to see a pic of Ginny and Jen. I feel like it's been so long since we've seen the two of them (on screen or off) so I can't wait for that.
I agree with this. This has been a great season for Snowing. Pity that the writers have not shown any care for CS. 3 separations and counting. People think it's on purpose in case JMO is leaving they don't want us to get "attached". Morons don't realize that the audience have been attached to Emma since S1 and CS since S2. Good luck show, you're gonna need it after the horrendous drops in ratings you'll experience if you do decide to do this show without Emma Swan.

I like Hook but I will not be seeing a show where Hook or Emma is without the other. I will not stomach them trying to force a half a double s romance. I can only hope now negotiations pull through and JMO decides to continue on, bc she and CS deserve a happy ending.

Snowing fans can be comfortable with the fact that Gosh are staying, CS/Emma fans are the ones that are nervous and rightfully so. You have your security, we don't.

RubyTuesdays 01-15-2017 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Radames (Post 88872320)
Emma Swan is the character whom we as the audience were introduced to with this world and all it's inhabitants for the first time.

She is the character from which we see a regular person's point of view that is not a fantasy character.

She is this shows titular character, a pity you don't see that.

You didn't understand my post. The word titular refers to the title of a piece. This means a titular character is referred to in the title. Harry Potter is a titular character because the books and films carry his name in their title. Emma Swan would be a titular character if the show was named after her.

fox24 01-15-2017 10:43 AM

I wish we had spoilers today I really wish 6.10-6.11 had aired as a to parter

scififan2009 01-15-2017 10:52 AM

Anyone got a magic lamp?

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Originally Posted by fox24 (Post 88872405)
I wish we had spoilers today I really wish 6.10-6.11 had aired as a to parter

Yeah, it might have sucked a lot less if we'd gotten more than just weakling Emma in the wish realm.

T'Lynn 01-15-2017 10:53 AM

I agree ... that was a mistake to stop it where they did.

Radames 01-15-2017 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by scififan2009 (Post 88872507)
Anyone got a magic lamp?



Yeah, it might have sucked a lot less if we'd gotten more than just weakling Emma in the wish realm.

Weakest mid-season finale ever. And I thought S4's was horrible, nope. This one was the worst. It would have been much better if they aired it the way it was supposed to be. As if CS separation wasn't enough.

The writers clearly saw all the backlash the episode received.

Austenphile 01-15-2017 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by T'Lynn (Post 88872309)
I don't agree ... this has been a great year for Snowing.

Before anyone jumps all over that comment, I mean it in the way the writers approach the story.

They had two flashbacks with Snowing and an AU version of them .. not to mention a whole episode centered on their love complete with a montage of the highlights. And then the sleeping curse with some great angst ...

But when the writers say Snowing they aren't talking about the ship ... they are talking about Snow & Charming. Snow has had some great scenes with Regina and that relationship has gotten a lot of attention ... Charming has gotten and is getting more backstory and a meaty storyline about how he's going to go on without Snow there to ground him.

So, the writers are fulfilling what they said but the fandom thinks a year of Snowing should be about them together. And at this point I think nothing will ever be enough for the fandom ... which is the case with shows when they get farther along.

I am very happy to see a pic of Ginny and Jen. I feel like it's been so long since we've seen the two of them (on screen or off) so I can't wait for that.

I agree with you. I have LOVED the first half season. Now I am extremely frustrated with the fact that Snow and Charming have not had many scenes with their daughter individually or together as a family because the writers alternate Emma between Regina and Hook but the spoilers this week of Jen filming with Josh and with Ginny have me excited. I am also getting frustrated with the sleeping curse goong on 10 episodes because there seems to be alternating episodes of Josh and Ginny. I don't need them together but I do like to see both of them in an episode even if it's just one small scene. But I have enjoyed the first half immensely as they have finally gotten some focus.

In the same vein, I think it's been a great season for Emma and Hook, individually. They have expanded Hook's relationships with Henry, Belle and Charming. Emma has gone back to savior mode and helping others.

Snowing will never have another season like season one that focused on their romance. And it's unlikely CS will ever have the kind of focus they got as a couple in season 5 because those times were when the actual love story and falling in love was being told. They are established now so their scenes will most likely be more about developing their relationships with others for both couples. That is how these writers roll. It's also why they don't show as much Charming Family scenes. Those relationships have been developed.


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