Rhonwen

The Jekyl.Hyde theory would have been so much fun and Robert would have played that so amazing.

But of course this leads to Adam and even Jane(not too thrilled with her) too busy with their new toys to care about giving a good story for the core cast. Instead they give lazy fodder storylines that dont take much effort.

If the did Toy Story Andy woudl be very sad to see the way they have preactically discarded that Core cast and give them barely any realy story in favor of all frozen.

and the fact that cut and scenes that show Rumple as more than one just a villian to me shows that they want the new viewers to go in hating him and not seeign or understand all his background..


ugh.. I was postive a little while ago..



Maybe I'll be lucky and they'll kill Rumple off for real. since they have completely destroyed him..

scififan2009

Spoilers seem to hint at the Snow Queen still being around in episode 10. Even though they said the Frozen arc would only last for 9 episodes.

Maybe it'll be like with Pan, where they think they've won at the end of 9, but the villain is still around.

11 could be done to set up the next arc. Which is probably why Maleficent is set to return close to the end of this half.

Belleislove

You just go right back to being positive!!. Let me be the negative Nelly.

I don't know what to think anymore. I don't know what they're doing. They are the writers and hopefully have a plan.

But these are the same people who said they hoped Rumbelle fans would enjoy what they had in store and then spent the next 11 episodes with Rumple in a cage, making out with his captor and lying to Belle on their wedding day so.....

We'll just have to see what happens. I just personally think they're going in the wrong direction but I'm just one person.

Isn't she around in 11 as well? Isn't that when they cast the psychic or whoever it is? I thought they said that tied in with the SQ. I just know I'm tired of guest stars getting much more screentime and story than a lot of the regulars.

lianamed

Or perhaps they are cutting those scenes so that everyone believes Rumple is completely taken over by darkness, and they don't want to spoil the moment we will see he isn't.



The psychic was cast for the 10th, not the 11th.

Belleislove

Anything is possible but I'm not sure about the advisability of doing something like that if you're not giving the fans anything to root for.

Was she? The OP has her down for Episode 11 so I'm confused, LOL.

Walloo <New&Improved>

Are we sure she's a "villain"? She makes me think of Magneto in X-Men thinking that both magical and muggles can't live together, going on a crusade and all.

I hope not, the memory spin has been done and redone. Though when she said her name, she said it fondly...

scififan2009

They also said Aurora would be appearing in 4A. They just weren't specific about what her role would be.

If that's the case then she's a danger to anyone without magic, or any magic users who stand against her. She also cursed Marian just to frame Elsa. So yes, for all intents and purposes right now she is a villain.

Belleislove

So the actress who plays Maleficent is in Vancouver. That could be for 10 but most probably for 11. Maybe she just came early? I do wonder how she is alive though.

fox24

To be honest I don't think Rc said anything that bad. Just that Rumple is an addict and his addiction is blinding his love.

Belleislove

I think it's the totality of all his recent interviews.

He has a deep history with the SQ. He's married and "that's it?" He has no time for anyone else. No time for his brand new wife? Really? And now this, the hat will be there long after she's gone and his addiction is stronger than his love for Belle.

So yeah, I think it is bad. We just have to wait and see how much of this plays out on screen I guess.

Grace52373

I still think the he has no time for anyone else refers to those outside his marriage who have been interrupting every chance they get because of the new threat. Elizabeth Mitchell only said they were comrades and that was going to change for the worse this season. She plays coy very well and I think Robert does to. He said some things last season and the season before that riled up everybody and it wasn't as bad as people thought.

I also don't understand what was so bad about him tricking Zelena? He wanted his dagger back because the psycho killed his son, ordered him to kill Belle and was forcing his hand to help her. He didn't give in to her when she offered to change the past, hinting about Bae. He was desperate and he kissed her to get close to the dagger and snatch it. He wasn't cheating on Belle at all. Also, so what if he had two past loves, they were nothing compared to Belle and only used to establish his belief in being unlovable and to explain the hatred between he and Hook. Belle is his first and last true love. His addiction is taking over as well as his fear. He never wants to be controlled again especially since they may force him to kill his loved ones but he is to scared to live without power. A poster on tumblr said, every time he was powerless, bad things happened to him and that is why he can't give up his power and now he has found a way to get rid of the dark curse and he is focused on that like he was on Bae. He can't see what he is doing wrong and hopefully he will realize soon and unlike in Skin deep, choose Belle over power. The theme is never give up on those you love so we will just have to wait and see. Some Rumbelle fans on twitter are begging Natalie Abrams to bring us some good Rumbelle news, so maybe the writers will give us something. I just hate seeing people so down!

scififan2009

And it's not like he himself knows everything that's going to happen. He hasn't read all the scripts yet.

Belleislove

I agree with what you're saying. I just don't need to see any more stories about him and another woman.

I too don't take exception to him killing Zelena. I know there are some who think she was a defenseless, innocent victim but IMO she was a psychopath who caged him like a dog, would have had him kill Belle and anyone else she wanted dead, didn't seem to have any good in her, and was responsible for his son's death.

It's the lying about Belle that is my problem and his continued lying, manipulating and sneaking behind her back.

I totally understand how he is afraid of not having power. Of course he would be after all this time and his past history and what that psycho did to him in the cage. But when it takes the place of his love for his wife it's disappointing.

I'm sure he will have moments of clarity and goodness in the future and I'm sure he loves her but I want a lot better for Belle right now.

At the point of this interview though he would have most of the scripts other than maybe the finale.

RockNRoll

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Couldn't the RC interviews be in anticipation of the you-know-what hitting the fan for Rumple in 9 and 10? We've known it's been coming for a while, but the casual viewer doesn't. I read his words as related to that, which isn't anything worse than has been spoiled for a while.

Other than that... to the Rumbellers. Bobby is amazing but sometimes I think he needs to say less rather than more... Although we do get great spoilers from him sometimes because he doesn't always know when to stop talking...

scififan2009

He can say whatever he wants to. As an actor it's his job to interpret his character the way he sees him being portrayed by the writers. Even if it upsets fans.

At least he's not trying to give anyone false hope. He's just telling it like it is. Just like JMo does in her interviews, regardless of those few fans who might be upset about her talking about CS.

Would people rather they lie to their fans and only tell them what they want to hear?