Spoilers - Gilmore Girls Spoilers ~ Great Storylines My Arse - Page 15

Bootie · 07-18-2006, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandlynn

We won't be seeing that. His side of it will be extremely truncated, I am sure. Staying in London = no screen time.

That could be. My point though, was that even if we don't see it on screen, Logan, too, will have a social life in London. He won't be staring at the wall, contemplating the meaning of life. I think it's safe to say that's a given.

The problem with it being so one-sided is it'll make it too easy to pass judgement on the person whose POV we're watching.

marykateo · 07-18-2006, 09:25 AM

i liked all of lauren graham's comments.. what ones make you all upset?

Sandlynn · 07-18-2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by blaab

I am hoping Logan will actually get some SLs besides the calls ... come on they can make some London newsroom sets, that can't be too hard ...

They might also have to hire actors, with British accents a little better than Alexis'. Can you see them hiring a whole new group of friends for Rory *and* Logan? Not likely. That's why I think he's going to be wasted on phone calls and I won't be surprised if Czuchry suddenly finds himself a new job where he gets to do more. The one other alternative is if they build episodes around holidays and birthdays so that there's an excuse for Logan being in the States. However, DR said, "he's going to be in London" and that sounds pretty straightforward to me. I'm also sorry that we probably won't get to see Mitchum again. Logan brought with him a few interesting characters who have no reason to be in the storyline without him.

caf123 · 07-18-2006, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by marykateo

i liked all of lauren graham's comments.. what ones make you all upset?

I dislike how she says Lorelai acted out of character in being so passive but that the finale still made sense. Because you couldn't have one without the other. And I have trouble respecting next year's storylines because I didn't find the behaviour that led up to them convincing either. They should have persuaded me as a viewer last year, then whether it made me happy or sad, at least I could swallow it better.

But I wouldn't say I'm upset, because storylines are the writers' job not the actors. I do pay more attention to how the actors feel their characters would behave, because it seems like they'd understand the personalities of the parts they play.

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More TCA tidbits, from Jam! Showbiz:

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GIRLS TALK:

Lauren Graham says hold on, Gilmore Girls fans. Last year’s finale made perfect sense.

The popular WB drama moves to the new CW this fall and Graham and co-star Alexis Bledel were at that networks’ sessions yesterday. Fans have been burning up the blogs with negative reactions to last season’s cliffhanger, which found Lorelai (Graham) ditching fiance Luke (Scott Patterson) and winding up in bed with ex-hubby Christopher (David Sutcliffe).

“I thought it was great drama,” Graham said after the session. “That’s what people do (in times of conflict, confusion and pain).”

Besides, she told critics, if everything had gone the way the fans wanted it to go, “the show would be over. I would just be calling Rory going, ‘What are you doing tonight?’ ”

As it stands, Graham and Bledel are contracted for one more season. Graham wouldn’t rule out more, saying she wanted to give the production team a fair shot to reinvent the series.

As for the departure of husband-and-wife series creators Amy Sherman-Palladino and Daniel Palladino, it’s all good, said Graham. While she didn’t want it to sound like she was dumping on her old bosses, she said she was looking forward to scripts arriving on time.

“Amy and Dan were last-minute writers,” she said, adding that hefty Gilmore Girls scripts often arrived the night before a shoot.

She also hoped the new writing team, led by executive producer David S. Rosenthal, might lead to a loosening up of the “word perfect” readings, a painstaking process which led to multiple takes.

“It was a point of pride for them,” she said of the Palladino’s read-every-word edict. And while they aren’t the only strict showrunners in Hollywood (Graham also singled out David E. Kelley and Aaron Sorkin), “It made for a really long day.”

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blaab · 07-18-2006, 09:44 AM

ex-hubbie ... hubbie in like husband

Sandy, I agree that with Logan I would also feel I am missing out on a great set of family members, I loved to watch Mitchum and yeah also Shira ... I am still thinking though that DR was only talking about the beginning of the season, maybe like the first couple (6 has been named before) epis and they will start using Logan more again after that ...

I am also missing any info on Emily and Richard ... I wish we knew more

And yeah I do agree with LG saying that is what people do in times of conflict, confusion and pain ...

Ciaobella · 07-18-2006, 09:46 AM

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The popular WB drama moves to the new CW this fall and Graham and co-star Alexis Bledel were at that networks’ sessions yesterday. Fans have been burning up the blogs with negative reactions to last season’s cliffhanger, which found Lorelai (Graham) ditching fiance Luke (Scott Patterson) and winding up in bed with ex-hubby Christopher (David Sutcliffe).

“I thought it was great drama,” Graham said after the session. “That’s what people do (in times of conflict, confusion and pain).”

I am now officially an old bitty.

marykateo · 07-18-2006, 09:51 AM

In the Scrum with Graham afterwards, Graham was asked about the long-standing rumor that she and co-star Scott Patterson (who plays Luke) don't get along, and whether that had anything to do with the decision to break up Luke and Lorelai.

"I can't kill the dog!" she protested. "What power do you think I have? I don't have any kind of influence on the story like that. I think it is one of those Sam and Diane relationships where, if they're together for too long, the show has to end. So that's not true."

Thjere was fierce debate afterwards about whether the "that's not true" was her debunking the rumor about her disliking Patterson, or just her debunking the rumor that because she dislikes Patterson, she asked Amy to split up the two characters. If the latter, it was as artful a non-answer as I've heard on this tour.

????????????

xmonalpx · 07-18-2006, 09:58 AM

Fans have been burning up the blogs with negative reactions to last season’s cliffhanger, which found Lorelai (Graham) ditching fiance Luke (Scott Patterson) and winding up in bed with ex-hubby Christopher (David Sutcliffe).

Lorelai and Christopher NevER married!

SarahLovesLogan · 07-18-2006, 10:01 AM

You are not mistaken about them never marrying.

This stuff sucks. No one is happy. What is the point of ****ing with ALL your fans at once? Geez.

lilmelodie · 07-18-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SarahLovesLogan

You are not mistaken about them never marrying.

This stuff sucks. No one is happy. What is the point of ****ing with ALL your fans at once? Geez.

There is no point and that is what makes this so stinking frustrating.

La Linn · 07-18-2006, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandlynn

They might also have to hire actors, with British accents a little better than Alexis'. Can you see them hiring a whole new group of friends for Rory *and* Logan? Not likely. That's why I think he's going to be wasted on phone calls and I won't be surprised if Czuchry suddenly finds himself a new job where he gets to do more. The one other alternative is if they build episodes around holidays and birthdays so that there's an excuse for Logan being in the States. However, DR said, "he's going to be in London" and that sounds pretty straightforward to me. I'm also sorry that we probably won't get to see Mitchum again. Logan brought with him a few interesting characters who have no reason to be in the storyline without him.

Maybe Orlando Bloom is available

Now I'm seriously depressed for my Rory and Logan ship. I like that Matt was in almost every episode last season and I had hoped he be in atleast 20 episodes this season but it doesn't seam very likely that Logan can get away several times a month does it. And the other actors and extras with british accent seams like a problem.
Logan can make friends with an american reporter who has a british girlfriend or something like that.

lilmelodie · 07-18-2006, 10:17 AM

Hmmm...Orlando Bloom....nice....

Okay, that distracted me for about two seconds. Yeah, still sucks.

Sandlynn · 07-18-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by La Linn

Maybe Orlando Bloom is available

Bite your tongue!!! Maybe we can borrow Hugh Laurie. He can be Logan's brilliant yet irritable mentor.... Oh yeah, that's another show.

caf123 · 07-18-2006, 10:43 AM

From Maureen Ryan's "The Watcher" blog, Chicago Tribune (Click)

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The new 'Gilmore' guy speaks

In contrast to the cuddly “Veronica Mars” session, the “Gilmore Girls” session had a feel of a cage match.

In one corner: New “Gilmore Girls” showrunner David Rosenthal, who was meeting the press for the first time

In the other: Members of the press who have written about and raved about and ranted about “Gilmore Girls” for a six seasons, many of whom were unhappy with where the sixth season ended up, and wondered how this new guy would be able to take over a show with such a specific tone and such specific voices.

It was a tough crowd. At least Rosenthal was flanked by the show’s two stars, Alexis Bledel, who didn’t talk much, and Lauren Graham, who talked a lot.

She specifically said that if the press reported her as saying negative things about Amy Sherman-Palladino or Daniel Palladino, the show’s former head honchos, she would be upset. But, having said that, she said she already had the first script of the new year, which appeared to be unusual by this point in the production process.

She also indicated that the process was more collaborative than it had been under the Palladinos. She added that though where she understood where Lorelai ended up and how she got there, she’d been unhappy with the way her character was written last season, and had expressed her concerns.

“It wasn’t my favorite stuff to play, to kind of be dictated to by Luke, but again it was a believable conflict and a believable obstacles between them. That’s why the ending [of the season] made perfect sense because she tried to kind of be in a place that wasn't natural to her, that wasn't who she is. And so ultimately she couldn't take it anymore,” she said.

“But I think you had to have that build-up to get to where we got. I mean, if everything had gone the way the fans wanted it to go in terms of that relationship, the show would be over, or I would just be calling Rory, like, ‘What are you doing tonight?’ … to me this is a relationship with a lot of built-in problems between two people who are very different, who are trying to find a common language, and so it made sense to me.”

Regarding whether she’d leave the show when her contract is up at the end of Season 7, Graham said she hasn’t made up her mind.

“I have felt that way but I haven’t been in this particular collaboration before and I think we’re all really excited to see where the show can go. I read the first script and I love it,” she said.

“I am a huge fan of Amy and Dan. I loved that writing. I had some of the best, most interesting, fun, great scenes ever. But I also think there is room for it to grow and, you know, there's all these people now where we had a more specific, smaller group working on it,” Graham said. “Now we have these people who I sat down with the other day who are so enthusiastic, who come in as fans, who come in as people who have kind of fresh voices to lend to it, and I think it's going to grow.”

Bledel said she’s also undecided about returning. “I really don't know what this year is going to be like,” she said. “I think it's going to be really different, and I'm just going to see what it's like and then decide how I feel.”

As far as capturing the tone of the show, Rosenthal said that he’s hired new writers and there are now a total of eight writers on staff, all of whom come to the show as fans of the Gilmores.

Rosenthal said he’s not treating this as the end of “Gilmore Girls,” but that if it emerged that this year was the show’s last, he’d try to find out from Amy Sherman-Palladino what she’d envisioned for the show’s last scene. She’s long said she has the last scene of the show mapped out in her mind, down to the show’s last two spoken words.

The session did turn extraordinarily frosty when one writer asked Rosenthal about some personal troubles he had that involved a fascination with Heidi Klum. He turned red in the face, and it felt like the temperature in the room instantly dropped 30 degrees.

“My personal life is not an issue here,” Rosenthal said. “It's not worth getting into. I'm just here to talk about the show.”

“How does it make you professionally the right person for this show?” the questioner persisted.

“It has nothing to do with anything. Next,” Graham snapped.

Later, Graham made a surprising admission. She doesn’t much like working with the dog who plays Paul Anka. But he will be back in the new season.

Nothing against that particular dog, she said, but “I just am not a fan of dog comedy,” she said.

After the session, Rosenthal spoke with several reporters. Part of the transcript for that session is here, the other part is on the jump of this item.*

What do you feel like your take is on the show is, that might be different than what went on in the past? What do you bring?

“I’ve brought in a whole new team of writers. We have one wonderful returning writer from last year, but everybody else is new [Rina Mimoun from ‘Everwood’ is one of the new writers]. And as Lauren said, they come in as real true fans of the show.

“I think that kind of passion and perspective is great for a show, especially for people who find themselves inside the show, a show that they’re huge fans of, a show that they’re invested in. So I feel like that perspective is exciting, it’s exciting for me to hear from them, for them to share their thoughts and ideas and opinions. That’s something I feel has really impacted us creatively in a very positive way.”

“Gilmore Girls” has one of the most passionate, vocal fan bases out there. Is it the kind of thing where you just have to make the choices that you make and you can’t worry about people’s reactions?

“I think it’s wonderful, believe me, the reason the show is still on the air and does so well and I think it may have had its highest ratings ever last year because of that passionate fan base, so I completely respect and love that they’re out there. But yeah, ultimately, we spend all day every day talking about this show and talking about the characters and working very hard, in a very focused manner on it. And ultimately we have to do what we feel is in the best interest of the show, both short term and long term, in terms of where the characters are going.

“And also, we have the benefit of seeing arcs. We have the benefit of seeing the future and knowing where we want to take them. So while something may be disturbing in the short run, or upsetting or confusing to a fan, we as the writers recognize that, yes, that’s upsetting but ultimately that’s the journey that this character has to go on, they’re required to do this or that. It can be hard to go through different experiences that can be hard on them or hard on the fans, but ultimately we’re interested in personal growth. Obviously if characters never went through difficult times or never suffered, or had to face obstacles it would be hard for them to grow.

“One of the beauties of the show and one of the reasons it continues to attract such a loyal fan base is that the characters are able to grow and change and develop, like Alexis said. I mean, she’s really grown and changed over the years as has Scott [Patterson, who plays Luke]. And so that’s something that I feel is a huge identity of the show.”

How does it feel to be on a different network? Is there a different energy?

“I gotta say, we’re on the same night, the same time, I know in Los Angeles we’re on the same channel. I would imagine we’re on the same channel across the country. For us the work is exactly the same and the effort is exactly the same and the show is exactly the same. So it’s really just a question of how it’s presented and how it’s marketed and how it’s broadcast and that’s not something that we really deal with. And I’m sure that [the CW folks] will do great.”

Is the character the Paul Anka, the real Paul Anka, is he going to be back on the show?

“There are no plans for him to come back, but he was terrific on the show, so it wouldn’t surprise me. I mean it was a dream sequence. But the dog will definitely be back, I promise.”

Will the rift between Lorelai and Luke be similar to the rift between Lorelai and Rory last year? The fans hated how that played out. Are you going to play this out differently?

“Yeah, we never want to what’s been done in the past, Luke and Lorelai, their relationship is unique, it’s not a mother-daughter relationship, it’s boyfriend-girlfriend or fiancés. So we’re going to explore that, we’re going to let the characters take us where they will. It’s not going to be like the Lorelai-Rory [situation]. I’m not saying it’s always going to be pleasant or pretty, I mean, they’re two adults and they’re going to have to deal with what’s happening.”

Was there any nail-biting at all or did you always know you would be on the new network?

“No, I don’t think there was ever any question. It always seemed a no-brainer to bring ‘Gilmore Girls’ along.”

* Far as I could tell, the "jump" goes to MA's blog report from yesterday.

Ciaobella · 07-18-2006, 10:45 AM

Another entry in a TV Blog (must be millions of them lol!):

The Seattle Times

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"Gilmore Girls: TNG"

I spent most of the CW party playing "Celebrity or Publicist?" with my new friend Stephanie from tv.com. (We insta-bonded over our green dresses.) All the girls were wearing party dresses, heels and long hair — including us, now that I think about it — so it was hard to tell. We identified some former Top Models — Joanie, Furonda and a newly brunette Sara — and then I spotted David Rosenthal, the new showrunner of "Gilmore Girls." Ooh.

Are Lorelai and Chris getting back together? "Christopher will be very present in Lorelai's life."

What about Luke and Anna? "That relationship will continue to deepen."

Logan and Rory? "He's going to be in London, she's going to be in college. But they're going to try to make it work."

Does anyone get pregnant or married? "I'm guaranteeing a pregnancy. It will not be Sookie. There will be a baby or babies. Guaranteed."

My work here is done. Good night.

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