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Old 01-14-2005, 11:47 PM
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OTH (Nathan/Haley) S&S #5: Because we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it.

OTH (Nathan/Haley) S&S #5: Because we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it. <Shoutout to Network>



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Episode 2.11: The Heart Brings You Back

Tuesday , Jan 25 - (9:00 - 10:00 pm ET)
The Heart Brings You Back (TBA) (HDTV)

Episode 11 Pictures (5)

HALEY'S OLDER SISTER ARRIVES IN TREE HILL WITH AN EXPLOSIVE SECRET ABOUT NATHAN - Haley (Bethany Joy Lenz) is surprised when her older sister Taylor (guest star Lindsey McKeon) comes to town, but not as shocked as Nathan (James Lafferty), who recognizes Taylor from a past tryst. Meanwhile, Brooke (Sophia Bush) and Felix (Michael Copon) decide to become boyfriend and girlfriend, while Jake (guest star Bryan Greenberg) surprises Peyton (Hilarie Burton) when he shows up in Tree Hill. Anna (Daniella Alonso) confides a deep secret to Lucas (Chad Michael Murray). Moira Kelly, Barry Corbin, Craig Sheffer, and Barbara Alyn Woods also star. Matt Shakman directed the episode written by Mark B. Perry. (From Fraz/Fanbolt)


Episode 2.12: Between Order and Randomness

Tuesday, Feb 1 - (9:00 - 10:00 pm ET)
Between Order and Randomness (TV-14, D, L) (HDTV)

POSSIBILITIES PERSIST — Nathan (James Lafferty) comes clean with Haley (Bethany Joy Lenz) about his past relationship with Taylor (guest star Lindsey McKeon), but Haley continues to keep her emails with Chris (guest star Tyler Hilton) a secret. Lucas (Chad Michael Murray) and Karen (Moira Kelly) remain at odds over his refusal to take the HCM test. Meanwhile, Keith (Craig Sheffer) surprises Jules (guest star Maria Menounos) with a proposal, and Brooke (Sophia Bush) fights for better working conditions at her new job. Hilarie Burton, Paul Johansson, Barbara Alyn Woods and Barry Corbin also star. Bethany Rooney directed the episode written by Terrence Coli. (From Fraz/Fanbolt)

Taylor threatens to tell her sister, Haley, about her history with Nathan, so he decides to beat her to the punch and tell Haley first. Elsewhere, Brooke gets a demeaning job at a local eatery. Dan has wicked intentions when he invites Keith and Jules to dinner. Lucas finds out that Keith slept with Deb. Karen takes away Lucas's possessions until he undergoes the heart test. (From TV Guide) Thanks, curlyhead.

Spoilers credited to curlyhead: Nathan comes home from work and Haley comes home at about the same time. They both hear Taylor's funky music blaring from within. They agree to leave the apartment and get away from Taylor's music.


Episode 2.13: The Hero Dies In This One

Tuesday , Feb. 8 - (9:00 - 10:00 PM ET)
The Hero Dies In This One (TBA) (HDTV)

Episode 13 Pictures (10)

MUSICAL ACT MICHELLE BRANCH & JESSICA HARP FROM "THE WRECKERS" GUEST STAR - After Lucas (Chad Michael Murray) receives his medical test results he decides to move in with Dan (Paul Johansson), straining his relationships with both Karen (Moira Kelly) and Nathan (James Lafferty). When musical guest stars Michelle Branch & Jessica Harp from the band "The Wreckers" perform at TRIC, Haley (Bethnay Joy Lenz) realizes her passion is to pursue her music career. Meanwhile, Brooke (Sophia Bush) runs for student council president, but quickly realizes she is taking on more than she bargained for. Peyton (Hilarie Burton) and Jake's (Bryan Greenberg) friendship grows stronger. Barbara Alyn Woods, Barry Corbin and Craig Sheffer also star. Kevin Dowling directed the episode written by Jennifer Cecil. (From Futon Critic) Thanks, Bgirloth1/Becca.

Slightly different version of the Haley spoiler:

When musical guest stars Michelle Branch & Jessica Harp from the band "The Wreckers" perform at TRIC, Haley's (Bethany Joy Lenz) passion for music is reignited. (From Futon Critic) Thanks, SusanXG


Episode ???: Somewhere A Clock is Ticking

Tuesday, Mar. 1 - (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET)
Somewhere A Clock is Ticking (TBA) (HDTV)

KEITH AND JULES PREPARE TO WALK DOWN THE AISLE - It's Keith (Craig Sheffer) and Jules' (guest star Maria Menounos) wedding day, and the event has turned the town upside down. Brooke (Sophia Bush) asks Lucas (Chad Michael Murray) to take her to the wedding as his date, Nathan (James Lafferty) makes an important decision involving his marriage to Haley (Bethany Joy Lenz), and Jake (Bryan Greenberg) and Peyton (Hilarie Burton) take a big step in their relationship. Meanwhile, Karen (Moira Kelly) and Andy (guest star Kieran Hutchinson) discover Jules' secret relationship with Dan (Paul Johansson). (From Futon Critic) Thanks, SusanXG


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Nathan/Haley: S&S #4

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Fanbolt/Sneak Preview
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Schari Thanks for the thread!

Wow. I guess one of the "heroes" may be Haley. I bet there is no password protect because of the porn/Peytongate. Now that will turn around and bite Haley...This is out of nowhere....
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Okay so the title between order and randomness is so fitting because H/C is totally random! Its just popped up out of no where, seriously Nathan was honest with her, he loves her and she's keeping email from poser dude. Urgg this just makes no sense to me i'm finding it really hard to get my head around this.
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I can't believe what they are doing but I'm not even surprised anymore, just so very very very disappointed. Sure, N/H were happy and sruff and they still are but seriously, didn't they already give us enugh crap with N/H. They gave us the angst, the one we least wanted so can we just please move on? No, because now they bring out the ****ty sister who slept with the hubby or whatever she did and make Haley the evil one by keeping emails from Poser pervert a secret. What a great idea. I'm so mad right now, that I don't even feel like watching this show for a million years. This is the lamest thing they have come up with and it seems like it's getting worse and worse. Mark wanted this show to last atleast 6 season well no way if he keeps this up. There are so many N/H fans out there and if he doesn't have us, well then he doesn't really have anything at all.

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So now HC are email buddies..?
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Once again, they have Nathan come clean and Haley won't, making him the good guy again, or shall we say, the "Hero."

My guess is he seriously does something to screw it up in THDITO.
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Has anybody found a song or album with that title, because I haven't. And I refuse to believe we'd be going 1 for 3.

Lindsey: The only thing we really know from the description is that the WB promotions department is full of crackmonkeys. Everything else is suspect.
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Has anybody found a song or album with that title, because I haven't. And I refuse to believe we'd be going 1 for 3.

Lindsey: The only thing we really know from the description is that the WB promotions department is full of crackmonkeys. Everything else is suspect.
I did every kind of search you could think of for about 30 minutes last night- even googled 'The Heart Brings You Back'- which every result I got was a discussion about how it's hook, not heart. And I did a search for the title 'Between Order and Randomness', and I kept getting book results, lol, I think it was Discovery maybe?? lol I did get a few music results- but it had to do with the actual music being between order and randomness But I did try.
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I'm actually not mad anymore because I know what the WB is trying to do: manipulate me into having a reaction. Not going to happen anymore.

There's a greater explanation to all of this and you guys know what I think (Chris + Taylor x Deb = illegal plan), so until I'm proven wrong, I'm going to live in Egypt with my slave boy, Paul Walker.

I searched and searched and searched for 211 and 212, but I've come up empty-handed and it's making me mad. I have every other episode song title except these two and I would if I knew who sang them.
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Heads up on "The Hero Dies in this One"....The entire idea of the song is summed up by the Ataris in this one statement:

The hardest part isn't finding who we need to be, it's being content with who you are.)

So completely true for Haley...
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Between Order & Randomness is a song by an upcoming artist named Shane Mills. The song is about a candle barely burning. "And if anything beautiful comes from this, I'll say you."
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Erin- Yeah, I know. The WB is on crack, it's the only explanation.
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Thanks for the info Missy! Long time no "see".

I'm going to take a moment to address the whole "good" Nathan/ "bad" Haley debate. Haley/Nathan are married which represents a partnership and not a competition. Haley is heading for a crisis. We've seen Nathan in crisis and how the two of them made it through last season. Its now Haley's turn. I'm not thrilled with how this has rolled out but I still think that growth and strength as individuals and as a couple will be the end result of what we are seeing. An executive producer of another show I watch basically said this about true/real love - "Its the moment when one person gets to step outside of themself and act/react in a bigger and better then he/she thought possible based on their love of the other person."

Also, if Haley is to be considered a comparable to anyone - I think it is more Lucas than Nathan. If anything this makes Haley more sympathetic to where Lucas was at last year - just because she and Lucas are more similar in nature and socio-economic background....
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I'm with Susan, I'm just not concerned with this anymore. I think something is definitly being set up here. It's so weird the episode Chris leaves, Taylor pops in, and then he comes back for an episode and they both leave for good. I find that highly suspicious.

As for the emails, I still really believe it must be about music. I mean 'a secret email affair', um I don't see it. If it was Haley is taking secret phone calls with Chris, I would be worried and pissed. But emails are so impersonal, they speak more to business for me, especially since we know Haley believes in Chris's music connections. I'm willing to bet at the bus station she feels guilty and thinks she's lead him on, and still tries to be friends.

As for when Nathan finds out, I'm not sure if he does in 12 I think that would be better with them, because then he won't be blind-sided by Chris in 13. But I don't think we or Haley are that lucky, it's gonna come out in 13, they'll have a huge blow up, Haley will be done with Chris, and they'll make up.

I think I'll enjoy 214 even if NH are just background, I can take background if they're happy for a few episodes. Anything is better than what we're getting right now. I find it funny suddenly NH are the A story on this show, dominating all the episode descrips and promos and we all hate their story. Just figures.

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