Spoilers - Gossip Girl S&S #2445: How Low Can The Ratings Go?

***Jerry D*** · 11-20-2012, 10:18 AM

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episodes:

6.06 -- Where The Vile Things Are
THE PRICE YOU PAY — Blair (Leighton Meester) gets ready for her mother’s (guest star Margaret Colin) imminent arrival, but is unprepared for the set of demands her mother puts upon her. Serena (Blake Lively) volunteers to help Dan (Penn Badgley) find a new place to live, but their time together brings up unexpected emotions. With Ivy’s (Kaylee DeFer) help, Chuck (Ed Westwick) discovers there is evidence incriminating his father in illegal activities and enlists the help of Nate (Chace Crawford) to retrieve it. Meanwhile, Rufus (Matthew Settle) and Ivy are excited about their art gallery opening until they find an empty RSVP list and must scramble to find another way to make the event a success. Kelly Rutherford also stars. Norman Buckley directed the episode written by Dan Steele.

6.07 -- Save the Last Chance
GETTING WHAT YOU WANT - Serena (Blake Lively) and Dan (Penn Badgley) realize that they need to make amends with the people they have wronged. Blair (Leighton Meester) has one last chance to prove to her mother her worth as a fashion designer and with Serena's help, comes up with a plan to make her line the "it" look for Sage (guest star Sofia Black-D'Elia) and her friends. Chuck (Ed Westwick) is close to getting the evidence he needs against his father, until one of his closest allies reveals his plan to Bart (guest star Robert John Burke). Chace Crawford, Kelly Rutherford, Matthew Settle and Kaylee DeFer also star. Michelle Trachtenberg and William Baldwin guest star. Anna Mastro directed the episode written by Jessica Queller (#607).

6.08 -It’s Really Complicated
AND LET THERE BE THANKS — Serena (Blake Lively) and Dan (Penn Badgley) decide to throw their first Thanksgiving together, inviting only their closest friends, but everyone seems to have their own agenda for attending. Feeling defeated by his father (guest star Robert John Burke), Chuck (Ed Westwick) begins a downward spiral, leaving Blair (Leighton Meester) to find a solution to his problems. Meanwhile, Dan has written his latest exposé, but he must make a tough decision whether to publish it, knowing it could destroy a close friendship. Chace Crawford, Kelly Rutherford and Matthew Settle also star. Barry Watson and Sofia Black-D’Elia guest star. John Stephens directed the episode written by Jake Coburn (#608)

6.09 -- ??
Written By: Sara Goodman & ???
Directed By: Patrick Norris

6.10 New York, I love You XOXO
Written By: Stephanie Savage
Directed By: Mark Piznarski

callsheets;

1 - Serena, 2 - Blair, 3 - Dan, 5 - Nate, 6 - Chuck, 7 - Rufus, 8 - Lily, 9 - Bart, 10 - Georgina, 12 - Ivy
13 - Eleanor, 16 - William VDW, 17 - Steven, 19 - Sage, 20 - Dorota

6.01:
1; 2; 3

6.03:
Full

6.04:
1; 2; 3; 4; 5

6.05:
1; 2; 3; 4

6.06:
1; 2; 3; 4

6.07:
Full

6.10:
Full

filming pictures:
youknowyouloveme

Amalia_F · 11-20-2012, 10:20 AM

Thanks for the new thread Jerry, Love the title. Unfortunately the ratings have stagnated, much like the show itself.

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Originally Posted by Marshall41990 (View Post)

Yeah, I know. I'm not denying that he was conflicted in the sneak peek, because he obviously was conflicted. At that point, he's obviously in love with Serena again. That doesn't really change the fact that he still wrote the bad article. I'm positive the good article is sent, but the bad article is shown to Serena through Georginia. Serena is "disgusted" by it.

I'm trying to figure out what makes Serena "disgusted."

Considering he was already honest about her in the first book, I'd be interested to know too.

italiangal · 11-20-2012, 10:21 AM

Tftnt

I dont think he is playing her at all. Speculation is rife about that but there's no proof. I think that Dan has allready written the bad article about her...before they got back together. Someone finds it and releases it. I dont think Dan playing Serena is a huge possibility at all at this point.

***Jerry D*** · 11-20-2012, 10:22 AM

I really hope that Dan isn't just playing Serena. That would be total character assassination, so on this show, it may very well happen. I don't think that he's playing her though. What I think is going to happen is that his version of the article that trashes Serena is released by Georgina, so her and Dan will break up, and he'll be doing some soul searching. Maybe they won't get together again until the finale.

ale-la-pazza1 · 11-20-2012, 10:22 AM

tftnt.

from the last thread:

Quote:

Hopefully he's not playing her.

It'd be a real pity if he did.

Quote:

I'm positive the good article is sent, but the bad article is shown to Serena through Georginia.

After that SP? It's kinda obvious.

italiangal · 11-20-2012, 10:23 AM

I take it DS spilt up in episode 9?

Marshall41990 · 11-20-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Amalia_F (View Post)

Thanks for the new thread Jerry, Love the title. Unfortunately the ratings have stagnated, much like the show itself.

Considering he was already honest about her in the first book, I'd be interested to know too.

EXACTLY! This is why I think what happened in the last episode was clear manipulation on his part. He wanted something to write in his article, and now he has it. Basically, he **** shames Serena. It's horrible, but these writers would do something like that.

LotusRises · 11-20-2012, 10:25 AM

So the ratings and demo are down from last week? Ha!

I hope the writers learned their lesson. Nothing will save the ratings. Not CB, not DS, nothing. Sht is still sht and will remain sht if its not properly executed.

pandorazparadox · 11-20-2012, 10:25 AM

tfnt.

I had something to say about the discussion that went on in the last thread. The thing is, there is no way of making sense on this show. I don't know if it was writer clashes, or poor planning or whatever, but there have been too many conflicting narratives on the show for anything to make complete sense. If tomorrow they turn around and do DB, that wont be consistent with any of Blair's reactions in the last few episodes. If they do NS, it won't be consistent with how we have seen Serena react to Nate all this while. There is literally nothing they can write at this point that will make sense consistently and retroactively.

And I said this somewhere else, but I liked the episode. Not because it gave me shippy feelings or made me tear up or anything. It's just that for the first time I felt like I was watching actual 21 year olds and actual people talking and interacting and being treated like 21 year old people who are a little too full of themselves. That was the problem with the show for me, since season 3. not so much Chair or Blair or Dair. But the fact that the show had taken these very flawed kids with their very relatable insecurities and turned them into tragic heroes and heroines. Which is ridiculous because their circumstances just don't match up. I loved the DB interaction in season 4 because it was cute and fun and real. Not because Blair is the princess who needs to be rescued from her meaningless fairytale by the pauper, even though her heart lies with the dark knight, or whatever heavy handed angle they were trying to sell. Blair is not a princess, Dan is not the pauper/white knight, Chuck is not the Dark Knight and this isn't some gothic romance. Blair's Queen B fantasies were fun while they were confined to her head and her high school, and not literally validated by the storyline and propped by even adults in the real world.

I liked that Eleanor didn't buy Blair's crap. I liked that Nelly called her out. I loved that Dan pointed out that the article wasn't the problem, her handling of the business was. ( complete opposite of how they treated the video storyline where no one acknowledged that Blair's marriage broke up because she had cheated multiple times and instead blamed the person who had sent the video for everything). And I especially loved that Blair acknowledged that she schemes because she doesn't have the talent for the job she has been given. I didn't hate Blair in this episode at all. She is essentially a flawed character with some good qualities and this works when people react to her accordingly. Not worship her every move and make excuses for her behaviour.

And I really liked the DS scene/fight. Again because it was very real. and equal. My favourite DB episode last season was 514 and this fight reminded me of that. No heavy handed emotions or dark-light analogies, no "We are the world" nonsense, just two kids who have both hurt and been hurt calling each other out, like kids. I am sorry but I'll take a
"I was being sarcastic
so was I
No you were not
Yes I was"

over "You are my lightest light and I am your darkest dark but this world will never understand us" nonsense. Maybe I am no romantic, but none of these characters have storylines that encourage such heavy-handedness. I also loved that they didn't have Serena go "I only did this because I love you so much couldn't handle the pain, you are the best". She said that she loved him but he hurt her and yes, he is being a jerk about the articles, and he is egotistical and hypocritical at times.. And Dan retaliated accordingly. But no one had the upper hand.

Basically super long post, but yes, the episode was not consistent with the storyline over the last season, but nothing on this show is. But in terms of the tone and dialogue, definitely the episode I liked the most after 504.

Amalia_F · 11-20-2012, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry D (View Post)

I really hope that Dan isn't just playing Serena. That would be total character assassination, so on this show, it may very well happen. I don't think that he's playing her though. What I think is going to happen is that his version of the article that trashes Serena is released by Georgina, so her and Dan will break up, and he'll be doing some soul searching. Maybe they won't get together again until the finale.

Exactly. It's not a very Dan-like thing to do but you can never discount anything on this show, especially considering the Ausiello spoiler, and the fact that GG likes to throw things at us without any hints.

Marshall41990 · 11-20-2012, 10:26 AM

We KNOW Georginia shows it to Serena. Someone with a source spoiled it. We also know she is "disgusted" by it.

Marshall41990 · 11-20-2012, 10:29 AM

Blair does get worshipped and praised in the next episode, though? Nelly writes a good article on her clothing line, which was inspired by her bullying dark side. That's kinda saying "Nelly was wrong, Blair was right to be a bully."

***Jerry D*** · 11-20-2012, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pandorazparadox (View Post)

tfnt.

I had something to say about the discussion that went on in the last thread. The thing is, there is no way of making sense on this show. I don't know if it was writer clashes, or poor planning or whatever, but there have been too many conflicting narratives on the show for anything to make complete sense. If tomorrow they turn around and do DB, that wont be consistent with any of Blair's reactions in the last few episodes. If they do NS, it won't be consistent with how we have seen Serena react to Nate all this while. There is literally nothing they can write at this point that will make sense consistently and retroactively.

And I said this somewhere else, but I liked the episode. Not because it gave me shippy feelings or made me tear up or anything. It's just that for the first time I felt like I was watching actual 21 year olds and actual people talking and interacting and being treated like 21 year old people who are a little too full of themselves. That was the problem with the show for me, since season 3. not so much Chair or Blair or Dair. But the fact that the show had taken these very flawed kids with their very relatable insecurities and turned them into tragic heroes and heroines. Which is ridiculous because their circumstances just don't match up. I loved the DB interaction in season 4 because it was cute and fun and real. Not because Blair is the princess who needs to be rescued from her meaningless fairytale by the pauper, even though her heart lies with the dark knight, or whatever heavy handed angle they were trying to sell. Blair is not a princess, Dan is not the pauper/white knight, Chuck is not the Dark Knight and this isn't some gothic romance. Blair's Queen B fantasies were fun while they were confined to her head and her high school, and not literally validated by the storyline and propped by even adults in the real world.

I liked that Eleanor didn't buy Blair's crap. I liked that Nelly called her out. I loved that Dan pointed out that the article wasn't the problem, her handling of the business was. ( complete opposite of how they treated the video storyline where no one acknowledged that Blair's marriage broke up because she had cheated multiple times and instead blamed the person who had sent the video for everything). And I especially loved that Blair acknowledged that she schemes because she doesn't have the talent for the job she has been given. I didn't hate Blair in this episode at all. She is essentially a flawed character with some good qualities and this works when people react to her accordingly. Not worship her every move and make excuses for her behaviour.

And I really liked the DS scene/fight. Again because it was very real. and equal. My favourite DB episode last season was 514 and this fight reminded me of that. No heavy handed emotions or dark-light analogies, no "We are the world" nonsense, just two kids who have both hurt and been hurt calling each other out, like kids. I am sorry but I'll take a
"I was being sarcastic
so was I
No you were not
Yes I was"

over "You are my lightest light and I am your darkest dark but this world will never understand us" nonsense. Maybe I am no romantic, but none of these characters have storylines that encourage such heavy-handedness. I also loved that they didn't have Serena go "I only did this because I love you so much couldn't handle the pain, you are the best". She said that she loved him but he hurt her and yes, he is being a jerk about the articles, and he is egotistical and hypocritical at times.. And Dan retaliated accordingly. But no one had the upper hand.

Basically super long post, but yes, the episode was not consistent with the storyline over the last season, but nothing on this show is. But in terms of the tone and dialogue, definitely the episode I liked the most after 504.

Brilliant post. Very well said.

coconut5 · 11-20-2012, 10:31 AM

Anyone think Blair and Serena are going to end up like the women on the Real Housewives of New York City? Lol.
And great post paradox.

***Jerry D*** · 11-20-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Marshall41990 (View Post)

We KNOW Georginia shows it to Serena. Someone with a source spoiled it. We also know she is "disgusted" by it.

Well, I guess the question is whether he wrote the article before or after him and Serena got back together. If he wrote it before they got back together, he doesn't look too bad, but if he wrote it after they got back together, he looks horrible.

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