All I can begin with is OMG!!! :lol:

I've just seen this movie and all I can say is WOW and OMG!! hehe :)

At first I thought it was a slow starter but then as you let yourself emerse properly into the characters in the film you realise that it was a slow starter for a very good reason.
Never did I imagine that i would get to see what I so wanted badly in the first movie...that being that people saw Peter Parker as Spiderman... the MJ and PP scenes were great, and Doc Oc was just sublime as the main baddie :) It's always been a fav thing of mine that most of the baddies in Spider man lore have heart and other reasons (accidents or otherwise) to become what they do...I felt the Character of Doc Oc was very well portrayed on both sides of the coin the char faced :D

I'm inclined to love this so much more than the first but at the same time I realise the ongoing ride of it all :)

Highly recommended!!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JediBlastoise
[B]hey. he who hesitates, masturbates. Peter never made a move on her, so why wouldnt Harry do anything?


You make a very good point. Peter didn't go for it.

Yeah, but one would secretly hope an EMP would disable them if they're within the blast radius. ;)

I loved this movie! I thought it was great, loads better than the first one, which I liked, too. One of the things I loved about the sequel was that it was really pretty funny. It had everyone in the theater laughing out loud at a lot of parts. And it had some pretty good action scenes (I'm easily pleased when it comes to that sort of thing), and the romance didn't suck even though Kirsten Dunst was part of it (I don't like her.)

I think my favorite part was when Harry unmasked Peter. James Franco did a great job. Plus that was the moment I was just waiting for ever since I saw it on the commercial. :lol:

And, finally: I ADORE Tobey.

Not a positive review... you've been warned
 

I've seen a lot of comic book movies, mostly due to the fact that my twin brother loves comics and I usually go see them with him. I grew up watching the cartoons of X-Men and Spiderman, etc.

I was really wary about seeing this sequel for two reasons: 1) sequals suck, in general, though there are exceptions like Shrek 2 or X-men 2 and 2) because I hated the first Spiderman movie.

However, I went because it was my friend's 21st birthday and he picked the movie.

This movie was worse than the first one. The performances were lackluster and the only thing that this movie has to recommend itself is its special effects. It amazes me that there was actually a Pulitzer Prize winner listed as one of the writers for this movie (that's Michael Chambon) because not only was the dialogue terrible, the storyline was awful and had more than a few holes in it (like the whole fusion thing sucking in metal objects, though interestinly Doc Oc's arms remained immune or that Peter's spidey powers were suddenly gone then back again with no explaination).

The love story was even more annoying in this installment, Dunst and Maguire have zero chemisty. Speaking of the two stars, it amazes me that they actually payed Dunst for this role. She does nothing to make her character endearing or even three dimensional. She is nothing more than that pretty face on the billboard that we see over and over again throughout the movie. Maguire, who's earnest Pete Parker was sympathetic in the first movie, was dorky and rather annoying in the sequal. James Franco's whole avenge my father deal would have been interesting if he hadn't played it in such a whiny bitch sort of way (slapping Peter? PLEASE. At least let the guy throw a punch!) And as for the villian, Alfred Molina tried to make his character into something more than a raving lunatic and ultimately failed because the material was just not there for him to work with.

After seeing scenes where "Raindrops keep falling on my head" plays in the background while a jolly Peter moves through his days and a pitiable scene involing Mary Jane and a wedding gown, I can only conclude that director Sam Rammi was either on drugs or suffering a mental break while shooting this movie. People actually laughed mockingly in the theater at these scenes.

Basically this movie is not worth the hype, the 8 bucks you pay to see it, or the millions that was invested in it.

So I am sure, judging by the box office numbers, that many disagree, but this is just my opinion. You could surely find something better to watch if you ask me

That Raindrops scene? So much The Funny. I was laughing at how silly and wonderfully *geeky* it was. So perfectlly endearing and amusing, and Tobey Maguire sold it to me on a silver platter. Plus, whatever crack Sam Raimi is on, I hope he's got plenty of it for the next movie. :)

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Posted earlier:

He didn't want the responsibility of being Spiderman. Because of this deep-seeded doubt, his abilities started to fail him. He couldn't shoot his webs, he became afraid of heights (when he was on the roof looking down, just before the elevator scene), he could no longer scale buildings, he lost his spidey senses and his vision needed correction again. The doctor affirmed that it was all mental and that he had a choice of whom he wanted to be. He made the choice to be Peter Parker, and only Peter Parker again.

His return to Spiderman took time as well. Thus, his huge fall off the rooftop ("My back!"). Once he basically made the choice at the coffee shop with MJ, his spidey senses were back and he felt the car crashing into the window.

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While I can see how this might be seen as a reason or "excuse" for his lack of powers and then sudden rebound, it is a poor one. All the comic book fans I went with said that it had something to do with the fact that in the comics the mechanisms that Spiderman uses in the comics to shoot web tend to malfuncation at inoburtune moments or something. haven't read enough comics to know if that was true, but it is what they said. Also, I didn't think that mutant abilities had anything to do with how much someone wanted them or not. It would have made life a lot easier for Rogue in X-Men if it worked that way.

There were many other things that were wrong with this movie, this was just one of my observations of something that I didn't think worked all that well.

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But, the X-Men were born with their mutation. Spiderman wasn't.

Fair enough. I thought it worked because one of the issues in the movie is choice. :)

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As other people have been saying, I thought the deal with that was that he was losing confidence and doubting himself, so his abilities were reflecting that, kinda. Like, you know, in "Bulletproof Monk" where he had to really believe the laws of gravity didn't exist before he could go flying up a wall. So once he believed he could really do it, he could...this is not very comic book-y, but for a movie, it makes sense.

Actually, I kind of liked that. I thought it was very Shakespearean or something, you know? It had more effect that punching him, somehow.

I liked it about equal to or slightly more than the first. I love Alfred Molina, and I think he was a good choice because he didn't seem like your usual one-dimensional crazy-for-the-sake-of-it villian. And I liked how Peter was flawed, kind of. Makes him easier to identify with. MJ...I've just never liked her, she's too prissy for me, but she's all right.

Loved the cameo of Dr. Connors...hopefully there'll be more about him in the next movie. And the Hal Sparks cameo just made me squeal. :D

LadyZ - I went to see it again tonight. :D Just like I promised. And...here's my veredict:

I LOVED IT!

See, I told you that's what happened with HP: POA.

I noticed more little details and observed Tobey's performance with more attention. He DID do an amazing job in this one! Not that he didn't in the first one. I take back what I said in my first post. I loved the whole movie. I was conscious and awake and not tired. LOVED, LOVED, LOVED it! :D

Box Office Estimate... from Wednesday to Monday

$180,056,000


Not to bad :D

Octavius mentioned that the tentacles were imperivious to magnetism, which is why they were used to help stabilze the fusion reaction.

and watching it a second time, i have to say that Danny Elfman is one of my new favorite composers, right up there with john ottman, but after john williams. (no one can top john williams!). the score was great the whole movie.

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1) Doc Ock said at the beginning that the tentacles were crafted to be impervious to the magnetics in the experiment.

2) His powers didn't really disappear. He just started to block them because he was getting depressed, doubting if this is what he really wanted to do with his life, losing confidence, etc. It's actually quite realistic and makes a lot of sense. ie: in "real life", if someone is depressed/losing confidence, their work suffers along with it (writer's block, etc)... or grades if they're still in school. It's only when they get that confidence back, when they snap out of the funk, that they're in top form again. Same for Peter.

^_^

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First, I must have missed the "impervious to magnetic fields thing", point taken.

Second, I understand that people want to use this whole "Peter didn't believe in himself thing" as a reason for his powers to suddenly not work and then work when he wants it to come back. How very convienient for him. The thing is, Peter is not a normal person, he is not someone whose powers should vanish just because he doesn't believe in them any more. This is a weak plot device. Peter's powers were never based on his "belief" in them. In the first movie I believe that they repeated the whole "it's my gift, it's my curse" line over and over to emphasize the fact that he didn't chose this life, it was because of the mutation.

I've talked to a bunch of other fans (both of the comics and the movies) and they agree that this part was not at all consistent. It would have been far more interesting if Peter kept his powers during this unbelieving time and still chose not to do anything with them. I seem to be the only one willing to give a negative opinion about this movie, so it is understandable that so many people would want to reply to it. But, really there is nothing that I can think of, though many have come up with some good suggestions, that would make this plot point work in my opinion.

they were just sticking to the comics. In Amazing Spider-man Annual #1, Peter does infact lose his powers temporarily.
i found this somewhere online from that issue:

http://www.howardhallis.com/cgc/asmannual.jpg

in that issue, he loses his powers mysteriously for no reason too. you can go here for more on that issue.

Wow, that goes way back, doesn't it?

Are there any comics or excerpts available on-line?

What I actually wanted to say:

I just saw the movie and I loved it! During the movie I sometimes wanted to slap Peter but now my emotions are well-balanced again ;)

Oh and the opening-credits: marvellous!

I thought the opening credits were marvelous. :thumbs_up:

Oh, and I too wanted to smack Peter at times. "MAKE A MOVE ALREADY!!" :lol: But I understand his reasoning.

Sasha
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I enjoyed the movie immensely, but my most memorable scene has to be where Harry uncovered his father's identity as the Green Goblin. And at MJ's wedding I wonder if he already became the the next Green Goblin (note the green bow tie he wore, the same thing that his father did after becoming Green Goblin)
Despite all those clues of the next villain I dont believe he'll be the villain in the next SP3.
Notice the missing arm on Dr. Curt Connors (Peter's proffesor) according to the comic book he injected some whacked out serum into the missing limb and it went wrong and mutated him into a lizard.
And then there was John Jameson (MJ's ex) he's a pissed off dude having ditched at the altar will soon become a wolf man sort of villain. (something about him finding some foreign object while on his expedition in space) There's a connection between him and Spidey but couldnt remember what.
So many villains to handle so little time, Peter and Spiderman would have his hands full in the next movie. My lil' bro is crazy comic book fan, tells me these things even when I dont want to know it. :D

Hehe, glad to hear it, Liz ;)

I agree, the score was excellent. It wasn't over the top and predictable (like the recent ones of Hans Zimmer and his protegés).

I noticed the bow tie as well. I guess we'll have to wait and see with all the possibilities.

I've been thinking about all the facial expressions during the intense moments in the film. I wonder what Tobey was doing physically at each moment. Like when he pulled the train to a stop and when he held up the piece of the building to stop MJ from getting crushed.

Don't know which Spiderman II thread to post this in, so I'll just post it in both:

Watch LEGO's Spider-Man: The Peril of Doc Ock!

It's hilarious! :lol:

Sasha
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I saw Spiderman 2 two times in a row on Wednesday and on Thursday and boy did I love it! I think it's way better than the first one, I'd totally give it five stars out of five. :D I loved the opening credits aswell (marvellous :lol: ) and my favourite scenes were the train fight and especially the part when he passes out and the crowd catches him, and in the end when M.J. runs off her wedding and goes to Peter and they kiss (finally some happiness for him :)). I can't wait for the third part. Yep, Spiderman 2 definitely is from now on one of my favourite movies. :D

OMG, I know, seriously!!! I wouldn't give up on my dreams like him for others. I'm not THAT nice. :lol:

Sasha
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:lol: Yeah, me neither. He totally deserved it, the way he had been pining after her. And well, she doesn't have anything to complain either, IMO. ;) :lol: