X-Men - Xavier's School For Gifted Youngsters [Off Topic] #43: Let's make 2021 a year worth discussing. - Page 20

**PhoenixRising** · 05-07-2021, 03:20 PM

Hi, sum1!

I hope you got enough sleep.

**wickedrum** · 05-07-2021, 03:21 PM

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Hi, dragonfire!

I'm okay, thanks.

I'm glad you are too.

I hope you get more, sum1.

OMG, are you on something?

Good for you, Rita!

Lefties? Well, no one's perfect.

Just to clarify, I believe in classical liberalism and liberal democracy, but socialism as defined by Marx often conflicts with that.

There is such a thing as too much freedom. That too much freedom gave the ruling class the power to exploit us continuously and without scruples till we end up in our graves. I don't see how that's fair.

dragonfire · 05-07-2021, 03:22 PM

Hey Alex.

Good, and no problem.

Thanks.

Hey Sum.

I hope everyone is ok.

The first live-action debut of Stephanie Brown.

We're close to a live-action debut of Damian Wayne in the live-action DC Multiverse.

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**PhoenixRising** · 05-07-2021, 03:40 PM

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Hey Alex.

Good, and no problem.

Thanks.

Hey Sum.

I hope everyone is ok.

The first live-action debut of Stephanie Brown.

We're close to a live-action debut of Damian Wayne in the live-action DC Multiverse.

Hey, dragonfire!

I'm okay, thanks.

I'm glad you are too.

Who is Stephanie Brown?

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There is such a thing as too much freedom. That too much freedom gave the ruling class the power to exploit us continuously and without scruples till we end up in our graves. I don't see how that's fair.

Oooooh, see, that's a red flag for me, Rita, pardon the pun.

The Bolsheviks believed that as well, and that road leads to totalitarianism. It's the reason why Orwell wrote 1984 and Animal Farm. He was a Democratic Socialist, but he also warned his left-leaning colleagues that they were "playing with fire" when it came to the Soviet Union. Freedom - of speech, of choice, of expression, of thought itself - is the foundation that modern western civilization was built upon. The idea that freedom can lead to exploitation or oppression is an excuse to create totalitarianism and fascism. What's more, every society that attempted this failed. Human beings are not wired to be micro-managed.

dragonfire · 05-07-2021, 04:05 PM

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Hey, dragonfire!

I'm okay, thanks.

I'm glad you are too.

Who is Stephanie Brown?

Hey Alex.

Good, no problem.

Thanks.

She's the Daughter of the villain Cluemaster. She started out as the Spoiler, then became the fourth Robin, then later on became the fourth Batgirl.

Plus Tim Drake is her main love interest.

I hope everyone is ok.

**PhoenixRising** · 05-07-2021, 04:14 PM

Is she from the comics, I take it?

And why is she now on the Batwoman show? What happened to the last one, the one who took over for Ruby Rose?

**wickedrum** · 05-07-2021, 04:28 PM

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Hey, dragonfire!

I'm okay, thanks.

I'm glad you are too.

Who is Stephanie Brown?

Oooooh, see, that's a red flag for me, Rita, pardon the pun.

The Bolsheviks believed that as well, and that road leads to totalitarianism. It's the reason why Orwell wrote 1984 and Animal Farm. He was a Democratic Socialist, but he also warned his left-leaning colleagues that they were "playing with fire" when it came to the Soviet Union. Freedom - of speech, of choice, of expression, of thought itself - is the foundation that modern western civilization was built upon. The idea that freedom can lead to exploitation or oppression is an excuse to create totalitarianism and fascism. What's more, every society that attempted this failed. Human beings are not wired to be micro-managed.

watch out, you might get put on the Homeland Security hitlist for talking to socialists online

dragonfire · 05-07-2021, 04:34 PM

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Is she from the comics, I take it?

And why is she now on the Batwoman show? What happened to the last one, the one who took over for Ruby Rose?

Yes she first appeared in the 90s Batman comics.

I don't know but it is her first ever live-action debut in anything.

She's still Batwoman.

I hope everyone is ok.

**PhoenixRising** · 05-07-2021, 05:23 PM

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Yes she first appeared in the 90s Batman comics.

I don't know but it is her first ever live-action debut in anything.

She's still Batwoman.

I hope everyone is ok.

I see. But is she eventually replacing the second Batwoman? Why introduce her if not?

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watch out, you might get put on the Homeland Security hitlist for talking to socialists online

Wrong decade, Rita.

If this were the McCarthy era 1950s I'd get into trouble. Homeland Security were looking for terrorists, not Socialists.

dragonfire · 05-07-2021, 09:28 PM

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I see. But is she eventually replacing the second Batwoman? Why introduce her if not?

I don't know.

I hope everyone is ok.

sum1 · 05-08-2021, 03:23 AM

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There is such a thing as too much freedom.

Be careful where you go with that one. It can easily get into dangerous territory. Read 1984.

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That too much freedom gave the ruling class the power to exploit us continuously and without scruples till we end up in our graves. I don't see how that's fair.

Exactly the same exploitation, often worse, has happened in so many communist countries -USSR, China, North Korea, etc. Taking away freedom does not end exploitation.

And as for Marxism, Karl Marx was a guy who hated his own people and wrote horrible things promoting hatred against them. I'm not going to listen to him on anything. Socialism becomes something reasonable and good only when it evolves past Marx and his hate-filled obsession with power.

I hope that isn't to harsh, Rita.

I don't mean to be hard on you, just address the seriousness of the issue.

**Jen's Herald** · 05-08-2021, 05:04 AM

good morning, it's the weekend!

sum1 · 05-08-2021, 05:08 AM

Yay for Gal Gadot.

**Jen's Herald** · 05-08-2021, 02:07 PM

i agree

she is currently pregnant with her third child, and appears next in Netflix Red Notice with Dwayne Johnson and ~~Deadpool~~ Ryan Reynolds.

**PhoenixRising** · 05-08-2021, 03:48 PM

New thread: http://www.fanforum.com/f135/xaviers...hool-63251970/


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