X-Men - MARVEL [Cartoons|Comics] #13: Come discuss your favorites within the cartoon and comics verse.

**PhoenixRising** · 05-16-2021, 04:37 PM

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I see.

Kinda. I don't like that The X-Men was treated like crap to prop up the Avengers especially because of the MCU. Same for Spidey.

Also from I have seen the Avengers are like one of the worst teams ever. I mean how many times do they have to fight each other before even getting their job done?

Also when they finally do their job they cause more problems than solutions.

Honestly, a world without The Avengers is a better world.

https://www.cbr.com/x-men-krakoa-time-zone/

https://screenrant.com/x-men-childre...marvel-comics/

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The MCU certainly overdid the Avengers, as have Marvel Comics this century.

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Indeed.

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Well, that mostly had to do with Fox having the rights to X-Men(along with Fantastic Four) while Sony had Spider-Man, Universal had Hulk, and other studios had everything else. You have to remember, dragonfire, Marvel didn't have a working relationship with a studio like DC Comics had with Warner Bros. In the 1980s it was The Cannon Group who bought the rights to Marvel's titles, but after they went bankrupt in 1989 Marvel's titles were up for grabs. Marvel also went bankrupt in the 1990s and they just tossed all of their sticks to the wind. This is why I wish Fox had just bought out Marvel's titles outright in the 90s so this situation would never have happened. Marvel Studios really couldn't do anything until they got the rights to X-Men back from Fox. It had nothing to do with sacrificing the X-Men to prop up The Avengers. Sony still has the rights to Spider-Man and who knows how long that situation will last? If Marvel had done what DC had done back in the 1970s with WB, things would've been different.

Well, I will agree that the MCU has greatly misrepresented and misinterpreted the Avengers. Basically, Feige

ed up.

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dragonfire · 05-16-2021, 07:35 PM

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Well, that mostly had to do with Fox having the rights to X-Men(along with Fantastic Four) while Sony had Spider-Man, Universal had Hulk, and other studios had everything else. You have to remember, dragonfire, Marvel didn't have a working relationship with a studio like DC Comics had with Warner Bros. In the 1980s it was The Cannon Group who bought the rights to Marvel's titles, but after they went bankrupt in 1989 Marvel's titles were up for grabs. Marvel also went bankrupt in the 1990s and they just tossed all of their sticks to the wind. This is why I wish Fox had just bought out Marvel's titles outright in the 90s so this situation would never have happened. Marvel Studios really couldn't do anything until they got the rights to X-Men back from Fox. It had nothing to do with sacrificing the X-Men to prop up The Avengers. Sony still has the rights to Spider-Man and who knows how long that situation will last? If Marvel had done what DC had done back in the 1970s with WB, things would've been different.

Well, I will agree that the MCU has greatly misrepresented and misinterpreted the Avengers. Basically, Feige

ed up.

True.

I see.

TFTNT.

sum1 · 05-17-2021, 08:11 AM

Remember, Marvel made the comics all about the Avengers this century. While applying punitive rules to the X-Men like "No more new X-Men characters to be created".

**PhoenixRising** · 05-17-2021, 04:48 PM

You're welcome, dragonfire.

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Remember, Marvel made the comics all about the Avengers this century. While applying punitive rules to the X-Men like "No more new X-Men characters to be created".

Again, that was mostly due to Fox having the film rights to X-Men, sum1. The reason for the "no more new X-Men characters" rule was because any new X-Men character created by Marvel would automatically fall under 20th Century Fox's film rights. That's why they had Scarlet Witch do the whole "no more mutants" thing during House of M. Marvel Studios had the rights to the Avengers but Fox had X-Men and Fantastic Four, so Marvel was trying to starve Fox out. They even ended the Fantastic Four title for several years, remember? It wasn't until Disney bought Fox that Marvel restarted their Fantastic Four title, and now that they also have X-Men back they're creating more mutants again.

I honestly wish this could've been done another way so that Marvel could get the rights to X-Men and FF back without Disney buying all of 20th Century Fox's titles.

dragonfire · 05-17-2021, 06:34 PM

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**PhoenixRising** · 05-18-2021, 05:59 PM

Thanks for all of that, dragonfire.

dragonfire · 05-18-2021, 10:11 PM

No problem.

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sum1 · 05-19-2021, 10:26 AM

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Again, that was mostly due to Fox having the film rights to X-Men, sum1. The reason for the "no more new X-Men characters" rule was because any new X-Men character created by Marvel would automatically fall under 20th Century Fox's film rights. That's why they had Scarlet Witch do the whole "no more mutants" thing during House of M. Marvel Studios had the rights to the Avengers but Fox had X-Men and Fantastic Four, so Marvel was trying to starve Fox out. They even ended the Fantastic Four title for several years, remember? It wasn't until Disney bought Fox that Marvel restarted their Fantastic Four title, and now that they also have X-Men back they're creating more mutants again.

Yes I know all this. So what? My point still stands.

**PhoenixRising** · 05-19-2021, 05:01 PM

Thanks, dragonfire!

Planet Size X-Men, huh?

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Yes I know all this. So what? My point still stands.

Okay.

dragonfire · 05-19-2021, 09:29 PM

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Thanks, dragonfire!

Planet Size X-Men, huh?

No problem.

Yep.

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sum1 · 05-20-2021, 10:41 AM

Onslaught.

The nadir of the '90s.

**PhoenixRising** · 05-20-2021, 09:07 PM

Thanks for that, dragonfire.

Is everyone at Marvel going through some kind of midlife crisis?

dragonfire · 05-21-2021, 09:14 PM

No problem.

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