sum1

Venom has nothing to do with the X-Men. He's a Spider Man character.

J-LawForever

Like you said. Her role as Mystique was already increased before she rocketed to fame. People online are silly and always looking for reasons to hate. If its not her. They will find another person to hate for whatever reason.

sum1

I do think the Romjin version of Mystique was closer to the comic book character than Jennifer's is. Though still not all that close. Mystique in the comics didn't go around naked and until the movies came out she wasn't a combat expert either, relying more on trickery and deception. But Jennifer's ordinary-relatable-person-semi-hero version is far away from the comic book Mystique, who was a sinister, manipulative character.

PhoenixRising

Yeah, I think you're right, Kip. And that's why I mentioned Anne Hathaway as well. And she killed it as Catwoman.



And I understand what you mean about Mystique in the comics, sum1. Jen's Raven is more of an antihero than a manipulative, sinister villain. But I think Jen's Raven was more well acted than Rebecca's. And I think Rebecca's Raven was somewhat redeemed in X-3, what little I saw of it.

Well, I think that was just stupid. What did people expect after The Hunger Games hit so big? I'm glad that it was successful in spite of all that.

I love how we can agree on so much.

J-LawForever

Different people playing the same character opens it up for something new each time.

sum1

Jen's is better acted. Less appropriate, though.

Hey, nobody has any excuse for liking any other X-Men team film more than First Class. First Class just operates on such a higher plane. There's so much more depth to it. The other X-Men team films are just action films. First Class is a mood piece.

Kiane

Exactly. I notice Scarlett Johansson receives some as Black Widow character. They think she is a terrible actress who shouldn't have a movie.

Jen as Mystique, she takes command and doesn't play second fiddle to a man like Rebecca's Mystique did. That's one of the reasons she gets shade from antis.

sum1

What's all this "shade" business? When did that become part of the vernacular?

Kiane

What's with your redundant shots at sarcasm and baiting people?

PhoenixRising

Hi, Kiane. I agree with what you said about Scarlett Johansson. I already resent her Black Widow for taking what is rightfully Janet Van Dyne/The Wasp's place in the Avengers movies. But her recent protests against sexual harassment as part of the #MeToo movement, and her criticism of James Franco, reek of hypocrisy since she continues to defend Woody Allen, with whom she's worked with and has never held accountable for his various transgressions.

Oh, and the sarcasm and baiting is just what sum1 does. He's Irish. Hard Irish.

I agree, Kip. New actors do give fresh blood to characters, although some are better than others.

Well, I do agree with you about First Class when it comes to that, sum1. But I just think that Days of Future Past was the more well-structured movie. Most of the X-Men characters were once again, superfluous and just window dressing(like poor Havok and Banshee). Logan is still the best, in my opinion.

Oh, and Jen may not have been quite as appropriate, but then there's a lot of inappropriate stuff I'd like to do with her.

Kiane

I'm a fan of her as an actress, but I don't agree with her personal views, as her slander against James Franco, when she befriends other movie execs who have been liable of this. Even her fans on Twitter disagree with her on this.

That's what he does bait, I understand. But I'm fiesty and when someone dishes it at me, I come right back. I'm no pushover.

I love Days of Future Past. That's my favorite. First Class and Logan get honorable nods.

sum1

I like Scarlett Johansson and I like her as Black Widow.

I don't think those characters were superfluous in First Class. I think they all played a part and it was good to have them there.

What Alex means to say is that I was joking. I guess I should have put a smilie on it to indicate that, but people around here are so used to me joking that I often don't have to do that.

Here, I'll edit one in. :goes to edit previous post:

J-LawForever

Most are men who hate women and only want men to be the leads.

sum1

Let's not generalize people we don't know.

Kiane

Honestly, there are certain females who showcase this issue.

It looks like Mystique will be mainly clothed in Dark Phoenix.