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I'm sure Elon Musk will do all he can to rectify that. /s

TFTNT! :flowers:

It is so true! :lol:

Turkey wants to be called Türkiye in rebranding move

The title's misleading. It's apparently what the Turks call their own nation so, you know, it makes sense that the rest of us would follow suit.

Thanks for starting this thread. I'm watching Gavin Newsom & Justin Trudeau's summit on YouTube. Turkey can call themselves whatever they want to, but it's the same place that from what I understand doesn't want Finland or Sweden in N.A.T.O. Supposedly it's due to "terror" concerns.

Well, Erdogan's not what you call a fan of democracy, on the whole. Or he likes democracy, when it's in his favour and does what he wants. So his opposition to Finland and Sweden joining NATO is not surprising.

And, of course, he's angling to have Türkiye be the one to bring about "peace" between Russia and Ukraine. Only his version of peace clearly leans in favour of Putin. So if Sweden and Finland strenghten the Ukrainian side, Türkiye loses leverage.

Turkey should be expelled from NATO :mad: they are basically the veto vote for trumputin against anything that NATO votes on.




TFTNT! :flowers:

Oh, agreed. At the same time, countries like Türkiye get into NATO because other countries think it's one way to keep them on "our" side.

Diplomacy doesn't really work if you only work with your friends.

31 men near Spokane in Coeur d' Alene, ID were found in a U-Haul & were each a pair of khakis, blue shirt, & a white face covering. have been arrested with reportedly ties to Patriot Front. They had patches linking them to Patriot Front, according to police. They came from 12 or 13 states, had riot shields, & at least 1 smoke grenade. They were on their way to a pride event in Coeur d'Alene, according to police.

And if they hadn't been arrested, the story wouldn't belong on this thread at all...

Makes you wonder how long it will take for people to realize that U.S. terrorism is homegrown.

Yes. It's fortunate that a citizen alerted authorities I think before someone was injured or worse. Here's more on this from the Idaho Statesman: Coeur d’Alene police receive death threats for arresting Patriot Front members

Idaho made international headlines over the weekend when 31 masked members of a white nationalist group were arrested in Coeur d’Alene. The city’s mayor and police chief updated the public through a news conference on Monday. After a call from a citizen warning he had seen men “looking like a little army,” police found the members of the Patriot Front inside of a U-Haul truck during a traffic stop Saturday, according to The Spokesman-Review. They were arrested on suspicion of conspiring to riot at the North Idaho city’s Pride in the Park event. Coeur d’Alene Police Chief Lee White provided a handful of new details at the conference, including that the riot was planned to take place on Sherman Avenue. The U-Haul was found to contain riot gear and at least one smoke grenade.

But more questions remained. White said he didn’t know who the riot was meant to target, why Coeur d’Alene was chosen as the site of the riot and declined to comment on whether firearms were found on the men.

The police department received 149 phone calls on Monday morning about the arrests, including one from as far away as Norway, White said. He said they were a ”50/50 split,” between local calls of support for the police and anonymous angry calls from those upset about the arrests. White confirmed that users on far-right social media platforms have doxxed Coeur d’Alene officers, publicly identifying them and publishing personal information about them online. “The other 50%, who are completely anonymous, who want nothing more than to scream and yell at us and use really choice words, offered death threats against myself and other members of the police department merely for doing our jobs,” White said. At least one person who was not a member of the press showed up to Monday’s conference to falsely claim the group detailed by police were actually members of the FBI. His words echoed a conspiracy theory that has been making its way around the internet. White quickly shut down the accusation. “To be very clear here, these were not law enforcement officers that we arrested,” White said. “These were members of the hate group Patriot Front.”

Mayor Jim Hammond, who was sworn into office in January, also took the podium. It was his first press conference as mayor. He brought up Coeur d’Alene’s history of once being home to a neo-Nazi compound, insisting that the city had since become a place that “respects and welcomes everyone.” The Patriot Front is described as a “white nationalist hate group” by the Southern Poverty Law Center that branched off the group that was involved in the 2017 “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, which killed one demonstrator. The Patriot Front has a manifesto that’s called for preserving the U.S. as a white state. The Anti-Defamation League described it as a white supremacist group that regularly “uses social media to promote racism, antisemitism and intolerance.” Only two of those arrested on Saturday were from Idaho, according to Kootenai County Jail records. “We are not a city that wants to discriminate,” Hammond said. “We are not a city who wishes to bring any hurt upon anyone. It’s important because Coeur d’Alene has experienced that before. We’re not going back to the days of the Aryan Nations. We are past that. And we will do everything we can to make sure that we continue to stay past those kinds of problems.”

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/...262467752.html

I'd like to think that more Americans are learning or have learned that most terrorism in this country is by Americans. Honestly not having Trump as president I think makes it easier to get that point across too if people are willing to listen.

Honestly, these losers don't even seem to realize they live in a region named after a First People tribe that got its European name from French fur traders and probably their own First Nations scouts/partners.

I'm getting really sick of the way we allow these people to spread their hate unfettered. Great replacement theory, my foot. What, we did it so well that you don't want anyone else to give it a shot? It's all a bunch of BS anyway.

I am surprised that law enforcement stepped in to do the right thing here, though. Usually, they're on the other side of this type of scenario. Someone around there must have a functioning brain. That's good to know.

Yeah, plus someone offered to pay all of the bail money for those men. I learned that Idaho has a history of white supremacy & some of the most notorious white supremacists in the U.S. during the 1980s & 1990s for example would have gatherings in Idaho. The Aryan Nations terrorist organization was originally formed Kootenai County, ID. That is where Coeur d'Alene is by the way. I saw on ''The Rachel Maddow'' Show earlier this week Kathleen Belew & she wrote a book from 2018 titled ''Bring the War Home: The White Power Movement and Paramilitary America'' she was discussing on their that relates to what happened in Idaho last week.

Here's a link to an update on the Capital riot hearing from today: https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/16/polit...ays/index.html

Trump lawyer John Eastman actually wanted to be pardoned days after January 6th last year.

Well, yeah. I remember Ruby Ridge 1992 and how some losers used the "inspiration" of those events to bomb a federal building in Oklahoma City six months later, specifically targetting the daycare centre that was in it.

Idaho's pretty infamous for its white supremacy/2nd amendment militia nutbags.

It's funny you should go from that to talking about Donald Trump's lawyer and the attempted coup. It's all the same story, isn't it? Anti-democracy, white supremacist, mysogynistic psychopaths who will rail at the wind because they know someone out there will respond to the dog whistle.

And we let them get away with it.

Well, Trump was going to replace Acting A.G. Jeff Rosen & acting Deputy A.G. Richard Donahue. Rosen would have been replaced by someone that apparently believed that they're was election fraud in 2020. Jeff Clark, an environmental layer would have become acting A.G. if Trump got his way. Trump was talking about seizing voting machines & contracture in Italy flipping votes. Bonkers. The Justice Department told him reportedly that he mass resignations, which got Trump to back off. Trump would search the internet to find evidence apparently of voter fraud. He had the Secretary of Defence call Italy about it.

Breaking news! The U.S. Supreme Court has overturned Roe v. Wade. I don't know how many abortions that will actually prevent. It's a horrific day for women's rights supporters certainly. I see a women holding a sign on the news reading "Rich women in southern states will still get abortions (legal ones)" I would guess she is likely correct there.

It's a bad day for all Americans when Roe v. Wade is overturned. Not just women. And not just "women's rights activists." Women's rights are human rights.

Abortions being illegal in some states will endanger the lives of women who cannot afford to travel to places where they will be legal. There will be be thousands of unwanted pregnancies that will endanger the lives of the mother and/or will result in abandoned babies. Which means the crime rates will go up because your foster-care system is about as good as ours here, meaning it produces delinquents (not everyone, of course, but what do you expect when kids are chucked out on the street with no family and no support at age 18?)

Back-alley abortions will also increase the maternal death rate, which is already high as it is for a developed country.


And just yesterday, the same SCOTUS overturned a New York state law that limited the right to carry concealed weapons. So don't anyone pretend that overturning Roe v Wade is about states' rights. Because this SCOTUS doesn't give a pin about states' rights.

All in all, it's a shameful day for democracy.