livstevi21

I used to watch Bondi Vet when I was living in digs at uni, the area picked up more channels than at home. I think that was the earlier seasons. I forget his name but the main vet was pretty easy on the eyes not gonna lie. Yeah, I've watched a bit of Paul O'Grady's For the Love of Dogs too, I think there was a series done not too long ago of that.

Sorry I confused you! You can totally get why I mixed them up though

That's a shame you weren't able to watch the rest of Lucifer when it moved to Netflix, seasons 4-6 were awesome. It was insane when Fox cancelled it at the end of S3, especially when it ended on a cliffhanger, but all the fans rallied on social media to save the show, and thankfully, Netflix picked it up. Completely understand not streaming, it can be expensive and only worth it if there's a lot of content on it that you want to watch. Have you considered buying the DVDs to watch the rest of the show?

Tom Ellis is an amazing actor, I loved his portrayal of Lucifer. And yes, he is very nice, and I love how much fun he is on the panels at comic con. He's had a tradition at each con where he would wear a half a dozen or so t-shirts, mostly Lucifer themed, and hand them out to random people in the audience, and sign them as well (I saw this on youtube). I wondered whether he would do the same at the London one and he did. Aimee Garcia signed them too. It was great fun! I didn't get a t-shirt though, sadly.

sunnykerr

The main vet on Bondi Vet was easy on the eyes, yes, but not really my type. Again, not that I have a real type... but tall, blonde and athletic really isn't my thing. Andrew Marchevsky, on the other hand... For reference, he was the special vet surgeon they would go to for the complicated surgeries.

In order for us to get UK shows here, a TV station has to buy the rights, so there's always a delay. I've also noticed that the station that used to air Paul O'Grady's programme hasn't aired reruns in a while, so maybe they've moved on. It's hard to know why they pick the shows they do sometimes.

I can totally understand the confusion about Good Place, Good Wife, Good Fight. I was just trying to explain why I didn't immediately get it because, honestly, I should have.

I kept myself informed about what was happening on Lucifer. So I do know how awesome what aired on Netflix was.

Considering how the fans saved the show, it seems normal to me that the stars of the show would engage with them. I don't mean that they should have been expected to go to crazy lengths to engage with the fans, but a little additional attention here and there seems normal to me.

livstevi21

I don't necessarily have a type either. I've fancied quite a few different types over the years. I don't remember the other vets on the show.

It's the same when we get shows from the US. Some shows we can get aired pretty much at the same time, but others tend to be more behind.

Aw it's ok.

Oh ok, yeah, it was so good. I think they were able to have more creative freedom with the show on there. Maybe someday you'll be able to watch the rest of it. Yeah, I think the cast, especially Tom, really appreciated the fans' effort to save the show. But I think he did the whole t-shirt thing before that.

sunnykerr

It's just easier for me to say what doesn't appeal to me in the appearance of a man than it is to day what does. And, even then, my biggest crushes have always been more as a result of personality/humour than looks. And that makes it sound like I don't find them attractive, but surely you'll understand what I mean.

The only thing I know about real-life Tom Ellis is, unfortunately, that he cheated on his partner. For all I know, she cheated on him first or, if not, there were *circumstances* and I would seriously not want to judge anyone on their ability to be a good partner. We've had that discussion... I just mean that it's given me an impression of a man who will quite easily flirt with anyone. That doesn't make him a bad person, obviously.

Come to think of it, this is another reason to never meet a celebrity crush of mine. I am instantly suspicious of strangers who are that charming with me. It's not a great part of my own personality. I either need to work on my self-esteem or on being less instantly suspicous of people's intentions.

livstevi21

Fair enough. I find it easier that way too. My crushes don't result in just looks either, personality is far more important in finding someone attractive. They could be extremely good looking but have a horrible personality and that would definitely put me off.

I knew about that. When he was with his previous wife (with whom he has two children) I think he had something with another actress. But I believe that was short lived. I don't want to know the ins and outs and details of what really happened, it's none of my business of what goes on in a celebrity's personal life. As far as I see it, it was a mistake made, they decided to divorce and a few years later Tom is now happily married to someone else. It never gave me the impression that he quite easily flirts with anyone as it happened just the one time. Whatever mistakes he made in the past, it doesn't make him a bad person. Obviously if it turned out he was a serial cheater then it would be different, but again it happened just that one time and like you say you can't judge someone's ability on being a good partner just like that.

I understand how and why you would feel that way. Having a healthy self esteem is important for yourself, I think, more so than working on being less suspicious of people's intentions. Yes, it's not ideal to be always be instantly suspicious of people, but sometimes it can be helpful, especially for your own personal safety around complete strangers.

sunnykerr

Like I said, I try not to be judgy. I really, sincerly try. But when I only know one thing about a person I don't actually know at all, that one bit of meaningless information takes up all the room. Tom Ellis has done nothing wrong to me whatsoever. I don't wish him ill or think of him ill, really. But I don't know him either. So it's easier to just let it go, you know?

Fortunately, I believe he has enough happiness in his life that he doesn't need my friendship or compliments during one short meeting or whatever... to complete it.

And, you know, not loving the one thing I know about him never stopped me from watching or enjoying Lucifer.

There are other celebrities whose work I will never willingly watch because of my disgust for them. Of the top of my head, anything to do with Woody Allen, Tom Cruise, and I guess that woman who groomed her underaged husband we talked about a while back and whose name I've already forgotten.

When I say I don't love knowing that he cheated on his partner and that knowing that leads me to have a certain tendency to jump to certain conclusions hastily sometimes, it's a very mild sort of feeling. I jump to conclusions knowing that this is what I'm doing and completely ready and willing to revise my opinion.

It's just simpler with the Eddie Redmaynes and Jamie Dornans of the world whose uxuriousness goes unchallenged. So far as I know.

livstevi21

That's absolutely fair and I totally get it, truly I do.

I should elaborate though, and say that I don't enjoy meeting actors because I find them attractive, I meet them because I enjoy and admire the work that they do and I want to express to them how much a particular show or movie that they worked so hard on means to me. I don't need to compliment them on anything other than their work. I don't want to know about their personal life because as I've said, it's none of my business what they do outside of the work that they do. And I admire the celebs who are able to keep most of their personal life private, like Tom Welling has been able to do. Granted, he's opened up more in recent years and spoken quite a bit about some personal stuff on Michael Rosenbaum's podcast and does have an instagram/facebook account, but only because his wife Jessica posts a lot on hers. If you had told me 10 years ago that Tom would join social media I wouldn't have believed you. He doesn't post often though. And besides getting glimpses of his family life thanks to Jessica for sharing them, the boundary of sharing too much is kept to a minimum.

Indeed, and you're watching him play a character, not himself so you can easily separate actor from character if you so wish. It's what I have to do when re-watching Smallville these days with AM. I am watching Chloe, not the actress.

I've only watched Eddie Redmayne in The Theory of Everything, he was fantastic in the role of Stephen Hawking. Jamie Dornan, again the only thing I've seen him in is the few episodes he was on Once Upon a Time. I don't know anything else about them.

sunnykerr

I think they must really appreciate the people who do take the time to show up to tell them how much they appreciate their work. I've heard so many actors go through a period where they wonder about the meaning of what they do since they "dpn't save lives" or whatever. And, obviously, art of every kind if meaningful.

(As a quick aside, I've heard a plastic surgeon describe his work as "not saving lives, but as addressing the quality of that life," and I couldn't agree more, and that reminds of what artists do.)

So it must be such a positive experience for them when they have people willing to let them know how meaningful their work is to them. And, and everyone else who shows up to cons, does that. That's awesome. And if they remember you, that's yet more proof of just how much it means to them.

When you know an actor from one thing, it's easier to see the character and not the person. Once you start following them across projects, you still see the characters, of course, but you also see the actor as well. At least, I do.

livstevi21

That's a great way to look at it, addressing someone's quality of life is also a very important job. All sorts of artists help give people something to enjoy and get a lot of inspiration.

Oh absolutely, and that's why I think it's so important to let them know how much their work means to you because that gets them inspired to continue to do what they do.

That's very true, I see both with some actors I closely follow but just see the character of those I've only seen once or twice.

sunnykerr

And now I remember in the movie The Day After Tomorrow where they burn a bunch of books to stave off freezing temperatures, there was a random man who was presented as very uptight who put up a fight to protect... I want to say a Gutenberg Bible, but I could be wrong. Basically, he did the nerdy equivalent of "risking his life" to protect a book from being burned.

And that was his reasoning. It's important to do everything we can to save lives. But then you also have to take care of what makes life worth living. Culture, friendships, history, etc. And art, which is what actors do. They bring art to our lives. They make us feel things.

There's a reason I'll never skip a Daniel Radcliffe interview. I may not have a crush on him, but he brings so much joy to my life by being who he is in his interviews. He makes me happy... And I'm happy having him live where he lives and having me live where I live and having those two circles cross at no point whatsoever.

But, if I ever did meet him, I hope I would have the wherewithal to be cool and tell him that I'm glad he's in this world, bringing his art to the rest fo us.

livstevi21

What a great analogy, yes exactly.

aww that's nice. Funnily enough I used to crush on Daniel Radcliffe a little back in the early days of the Harry Potter movies and I was obsessed with them, when I was about 12.

sunnykerr

I may have gone down the YouTube wormhole watching Daniel Radcliffe interviews yesterday.

I might have had a crush on him during the Harry Potter days if he wasn't so young when it all started. We're only 10-ish years apart, but he was a kid when it all began. He's obviously no longer a child. But I was a young adult and he was a child and, even though the age difference isn't all that huge, that really impressed the difference on me.

I never would have a crush on Snape either, but Alan Rickman in other roles? Much more my lane.

livstevi21

Haha that happens to me all the time with Tom.

10 years is a much bigger difference when he was 11 and you were 21, obviously, but now that he's an adult too the gap isn't so bad. I'm around the same age as him so I was allowed to crush on him at the time of his Harry Potter days. I also used to crush on Robert Pattinson during his Twilight days who's also around the same age as me.

Tom is around 12 years older than me, (he doesn't look it though) but lately I've found myself crushing on older guys as I get older like Richard Armitage too.

Can also depend on the roles they play.

sunnykerr

Oh, I could have a crush on a male celebrity who is 10 years younger than me. Just not when they were a kid when I "met" them. I don't know why, but that's a line for me.

Having crushes on older, even much older, celebrities is much easier. Because then it's all between consenting adults.

Alan Rickman, for instance, was much more than 10 years older than me.

The odd thing is when you have a crush on someone and they disappear from the public eye. And then, when you see them again... they've changed. It's obviously fine that they've changed. We all do. It's just a shock to the mental image you had of them.

When I was a teenager, it was normal for girls to have crushes on professional athletes. So you have these young men, at the peak of their physical prime, and then they retire. Then, 10 years later, you see them again because they're brought back as coaches or commentators and, well... some of them have gone through through the wars or something. It makes you feel your age a little.

reason to believe

I feel ok having a crush on someone younger if I was literally a kid (a legal minor) while they were also alive and a minor. We both had to be kids at one point in time at the same time (so Dan Radcliffe falls into that category for me) Also, my sister met him when he was filming “Horns” in the town next to mine. She said his eyes are really a striking blue. I also like Dan. He has a funny sense of humour!

The exception is when they are older than me, then they can be any age if I fancy them now or in their past work!