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Old 10-22-2011, 06:54 AM
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This is the biggest spoiler ever...beware.

***************POSSIBLE SPOILER-POSSIBLE SPOILER*********************

I do not wanna spoil any plot of DrWho for anyone, but I would like to be acknowledged for identifying a huge secret before anyone else if I am at all correct in my GUESSES. Q1:What is the Silence religion REALLY about? Q2:Why does it seek the question to never be answered? Q3:Who are the players ie.. The Headless Monks and the "memory proof" creatures... and the alliance shifting Catholic Military... who is in charge of this? I believe I know the answer to these questions I have searched the web for days and I see nobody else with the slightest clue! I will give out 1 clue only ...."The secret lies with the monks". I have NEVER observed a plot twist so radical and creative in any show or movie. It is so multilayered and unconventional and I really have no idea how I came to see it... but I am glad. I am curious to see what everyone else makes of these 3 questions. I have little doubt that the revelation I have is of Stephen Moffat's design. It is very obvious I think and I also think it is meant to be seen as I am seeing it. Please be kind tho...I am just another DoctorWho fanatic

My statements are purely conjectrure
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:31 PM
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The ultimate blue box spoiler

OK... I popped out into the timestream to gather my thoughts for 5 minute.Sorry if it was longer for you but, I think I have the right words now. I posted this in 2 places please feel free to delete one if needed.


**** NOT SPELLING OR GRAMMMAR CHECKEDT ****

When I first saw this or had this revelation... my 12 year old daughter was there. It actually felt like my brain had some tiny accident which made me see what was PURPOSEFULLY hidden somehow. My daughter and my girlfriend began to try and try to see what I saw. They scolded me if I tried to tell them... they wanted to guess for themselves. As they guessed over and over, I told them "You are not ANYWHERE close... you are in the wrong universe and even the wrong reality". I gave clue after clue until I was indeed finally able to help my daughter guess it at least in part. The following is the best explanation to the age old and yet current and immediate question: "Doctor who?"


Remember carefully my friends, as this is a brilliant creation from our beloved DW writers. First let me show you the KIND of twist this will be, just to get your brain in the proper gear. Now the hardest to create and most impressive type of twist in DW is the twist the extends into our NON-FICTION world. Back when The Doctor flew the Pandorica into the heart of the exploding TARDIS, the Doctor may have created...or may have just used the existing (in his fictional world) the old wedding saying , ie old,new,borrowed,blue. This amazingly is a perfect description of the TARDIS! Also in this episode, the doctor understands why Amy knows nothing of any alien invasions ever, which makes her knowledge of most things on Earth... the same as us in REAL LIFE. So at this point in that episode...at the wedding... it is telling us that the REASON WE IN REAL LIFE HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF ALIENS NOR THE DOCTOR ECT... IS BECAUSE THIS PANDORICA EVENT REALLY HAPPENED! AND THE POSSIBLE REASON THE O,N,B,B WEDDING SAYING EXISTES FOR US IS THE REAL DOCTOR (remember the Pandorica does not exist for US in any world!! It was totally erased from timespace! So with a small set of words and a couple supporting lines spread out ... the writers have combined the fiction and nonfiction realities for now.If you have followed this easily then continue below, if it still looks funny... think about it till you understand (even if you don't agree you can understand my thought if you want)

OK let's start with the most obvious to everyone, Doctor who? This is the name of our show in this reality. In the Doctor's reality it is a sentence that has been spoken to him in a billion languages a billion billion times. But still to center the show around it's own name currently, it combines our realities more than ever before. Now we move backwards to the less obvious twists. The Seventh Transept houses things for the Headless Monks. So far we have seen the Catholic Army, "The Silence Creatures", and the Headless Monks. These are all we have seen that are involved in the RELIGIOUS MOVEMENT KNOWN AS THE SILENCE! Tho most people including myself focus on "The Creatures" the most, it is the monks that hold all the power rdevealed so far! Their power is huge and current, and even the power they once had still has a certain life as seen in the skulls. That is the view from he FICTION REALITY...but now I will show you how it is just as true in our NON-FICTION world...twisted in just like the wedding saying!
First off let me tell you that indeed I myself am a FANATIC member of the "Church of the Silence"! I would rather eat a live badger and pass it back out me, than to see the name of the doctor revealed! We fanatic members are nearly insanely loyal in our conviction to keep the "silence"! We GLADLY GIVE OUR HEADS TO THE WRITERS FOR LIFE!! Our numbers are not counted but known to be emense. And now listen to this: Some of us...many of us... have DIED without EVER HEARING THAT NAME! We died happy! We liked it that way! Now the doctor walks right up in front of us and threatens to reveal this name to all... at least it is pointed twards. So what do the HEADS of our dear fanatic dead do? They ALL TURN TO LOOK! The fans that have diede iether waiting to HEAR or NOT TO HEAR that name... they gave thier heads either way and nothing gets their dead attention more than this threat!

So the monks are the fans, the skulls stand for the fans that also gave their heads long ago, but died never knowing the NAME. As you should now see... this is a secondary part of the plot like the OLD,NEW,BORROWED,BLUE twist. But I assure you this is NO ACCIDENT! The writers have tied our two realities together better than ever before. The plot in the show and what happens I can still only guess. The Doctor being a unbeleivable genius even among timelords says he is probably a weapon created for battle. The Master was also likely also truly a weapon from his birth rather than from when he first saw the untempered scism (these are purely educated guesses. The Silence...US.. believe that if the name is spoken it will DESTROY the FICTIONAL AND NON-FICTIONAL (the show) Doctor Who Universes! Whether we are right about that or wrong; whether we are the heads alive or dead od thos wanting to hear the name...or not wanting to hear it... we are all FACEING The Doctor. In his univers his name might destroy everything... in our world his name can ruin the show maybe which destroys that reality for us as well. Thank God we know that River does know his name eventually. That means maybe he will tell her and not everyone (at least we in our reality might be shielded). Please feel free to add or take away from my ideas here. If you find more that supports these ideas tell me. If you find mistakes I made...PLEASE tell me. Thank you all for your five minutes
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:34 PM
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The ultimate dw spoiler ever ;)

OK... I popped out into the timestream to gather my thoughts for 5 minute.Sorry if it was longer for you but, I think I have the right words now. I posted this in 2 places please feel free to delete one if needed.


**** NOT SPELLING OR GRAMMMAR CHECKEDT ****

When I first saw this or had this revelation... my 12 year old daughter was there. It actually felt like my brain had some tiny accident which made me see what was PURPOSEFULLY hidden somehow. My daughter and my girlfriend began to try and try to see what I saw. They scolded me if I tried to tell them... they wanted to guess for themselves. As they guessed over and over, I told them "You are not ANYWHERE close... you are in the wrong universe and even the wrong reality". I gave clue after clue until I was indeed finally able to help my daughter guess it at least in part. The following is the best explanation to the age old and yet current and immediate question: "Doctor who?"


Remember carefully my friends, as this is a brilliant creation from our beloved DW writers. First let me show you the KIND of twist this will be, just to get your brain in the proper gear. Now the hardest to create and most impressive type of twist in DW is the twist the extends into our NON-FICTION world. Back when The Doctor flew the Pandorica into the heart of the exploding TARDIS, the Doctor may have created...or may have just used the existing (in his fictional world) the old wedding saying , ie old,new,borrowed,blue. This amazingly is a perfect description of the TARDIS! Also in this episode, the doctor understands why Amy knows nothing of any alien invasions ever, which makes her knowledge of most things on Earth... the same as us in REAL LIFE. So at this point in that episode...at the wedding... it is telling us that the REASON WE IN REAL LIFE HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF ALIENS NOR THE DOCTOR ECT... IS BECAUSE THIS PANDORICA EVENT REALLY HAPPENED! AND THE POSSIBLE REASON THE O,N,B,B WEDDING SAYING EXISTES FOR US IS THE REAL DOCTOR (remember the Pandorica does not exist for US in any world!! It was totally erased from timespace! So with a small set of words and a couple supporting lines spread out ... the writers have combined the fiction and nonfiction realities for now.If you have followed this easily then continue below, if it still looks funny... think about it till you understand (even if you don't agree you can understand my thought if you want)

OK let's start with the most obvious to everyone, Doctor who? This is the name of our show in this reality. In the Doctor's reality it is a sentence that has been spoken to him in a billion languages a billion billion times. But still to center the show around it's own name currently, it combines our realities more than ever before. Now we move backwards to the less obvious twists. The Seventh Transept houses things for the Headless Monks. So far we have seen the Catholic Army, "The Silence Creatures", and the Headless Monks. These are all we have seen that are involved in the RELIGIOUS MOVEMENT KNOWN AS THE SILENCE! Tho most people including myself focus on "The Creatures" the most, it is the monks that hold all the power rdevealed so far! Their power is huge and current, and even the power they once had still has a certain life as seen in the skulls. That is the view from he FICTION REALITY...but now I will show you how it is just as true in our NON-FICTION world...twisted in just like the wedding saying!
First off let me tell you that indeed I myself am a FANATIC member of the "Church of the Silence"! I would rather eat a live badger and pass it back out me, than to see the name of the doctor revealed! We fanatic members are nearly insanely loyal in our conviction to keep the "silence"! We GLADLY GIVE OUR HEADS TO THE WRITERS FOR LIFE!! Our numbers are not counted but known to be emense. And now listen to this: Some of us...many of us... have DIED without EVER HEARING THAT NAME! We died happy! We liked it that way! Now the doctor walks right up in front of us and threatens to reveal this name to all... at least it is pointed twards. So what do the HEADS of our dear fanatic dead do? They ALL TURN TO LOOK! The fans that have diede iether waiting to HEAR or NOT TO HEAR that name... they gave thier heads either way and nothing gets their dead attention more than this threat!

So the monks are the fans, the skulls stand for the fans that also gave their heads long ago, but died never knowing the NAME. As you should now see... this is a secondary part of the plot like the OLD,NEW,BORROWED,BLUE twist. But I assure you this is NO ACCIDENT! The writers have tied our two realities together better than ever before. The plot in the show and what happens I can still only guess. The Doctor being a unbeleivable genius even among timelords says he is probably a weapon created for battle. The Master was also likely also truly a weapon from his birth rather than from when he first saw the untempered scism (these are purely educated guesses. The Silence...US.. believe that if the name is spoken it will DESTROY the FICTIONAL AND NON-FICTIONAL (the show) Doctor Who Universes! Whether we are right about that or wrong; whether we are the heads alive or dead od thos wanting to hear the name...or not wanting to hear it... we are all FACEING The Doctor. In his univers his name might destroy everything... in our world his name can ruin the show maybe which destroys that reality for us as well. Thank God we know that River does know his name eventually. That means maybe he will tell her and not everyone (at least we in our reality might be shielded). Please feel free to add or take away from my ideas here. If you find more that supports these ideas tell me. If you find mistakes I made...PLEASE tell me. Thank you all for your five minutes
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