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Yup.
Obviously, I have nothing solid to base myself on and so this may be massively wrong and offensive If so, my apologies. But, basically, it's very suspicious to me that the suspects are all homeless. Maybe India has a different notion of homelessness than I do, so maybe there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for that. Barring that, I'm left with the impression that there must be a certain element of scapegoating here and we're going to start seeing gang-rape dismissed as a crime poor people commit in India. __________________
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until the rich people get caught with their pants down before they can pay off officials to turn a blind eye. Sad more effort isn't being done to correct this. Homeless people are still people...people can learn
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Sunny, I'm pretty sure you're onto something there.
Too often it's no plaintiff, no judge for rich people. And I'd expect this to hold especially true in countries where there's so many poor people that a few wrongdoings by the more privileged can be 'overlooked' even more easily. __________________
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Well, that's it.
It's either that India's got a real big problem with the disenfranchisement of its homeless men, leading to pretty specific types of violence, or there's at least some element of scapegoating going on. Either way, the problem is nowhere near being solved, is it? Especially if they're too busy masking the "symptoms" and not treating the root causes. I mean, if it's all "blame the homeless," the women of India (and who travel to India) are not at all safer. __________________
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Also goes to say that homeless people are dangerous sometimes. A lot kill, steal, etc... because that's what they know. Institutions needs to be made available for education, health coverage, sheltering, feeding and job placement. That will NOT fix the problem alone but could get something going!
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Also, if there's so many poor and homeless people in India, the education system's probably pretty much a wreck, too.
Education is the key part of getting people off the streets and into jobs. I can't imagine that an economy like India, from which you keep hearing how its steadily on the rise, can't do better than that. __________________
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Well, this story does feed into the notion that the homeless are violent and dangerous.
And while I can't say that it's entirely wrong, I would argue that the homeless (of Montreal anyway) are mostly a threat to themselves and, if anything, tend to be the victims of mass and police brutality because people are so afraid that they'll interpret any sign of "aggression" as a physical threat. So I do think the fact that they're blaming homeless people for these gang-rapes has an element of convenience to it inasofar as it plays into an already well-established perception of a certain segment of society. Certainly, education could probably go a long way in resolving some of these issues. But India still has other problems. I'm sure the caste system isn't still in place all over India, but it certainly remains in certain areas, and I have a feeling it contributes to a certain cycle of poverty. Again, though, that does not make homeless people more likely to rape as far as I'm concerned. __________________
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I guess a positive link between poverty and crime would hardly come as a surprise to anyone.
But there may be actual political will to make it seem like the poor are the only ones committing rapes. __________________
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Or, they could just remember that this also happens, apparently, in India:
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That is terrible repression there. No wonder so many from that region emigrate to the US or Canada.
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And here I thought immigration has more to do with economic opportunities as opposed to sanctioned gang rape.
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This is plainly disgusting...
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In light of the gang rape accusations, a couple of things have come to light.
Firstly, the villagers are denying there was a gang rape. Apparently, they claim that the women was tied to a tree for continuing to pursue a relationship with the boy from the neighbouring village and a fine was imposed. But, had she been truly raped, could she have been able to ride a bike to report said gang rape, they argue? Meanwhile, another woman, in another village, had her daughter kidnapped by her paternal grandparents. The father refused to marry the mother after she got pregnant, so she became a single mother. The father never married, never had any other children, so his parents decided they wanted their granddaughter. The mother doesn't have a father or a brother to defend her... so her daughter was taken away from her. __________________
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Yes, the article speaks of the problem as a whole, but notice how it also goes into why it's so much worse for girls. Saying that we have to wait until 2111 until all the world's girls have access to a high-school education is, frankly, unacceptable. __________________
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