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Well, I think he's been in captivity for years, which is time enough for the armed forces to have been made aware of the situation and come up with several scenarios, in order of "most prefered" to "not in a million years will we contemplate doing this."
I think the U.S. involvement in the region now straddles at least two administrations (depending on how you look at it, possibly way more), so that I have to assume some of the people involved on the U.S. side must have decent knowledge of the stakes, the particulars and the risks of such an exchange. From the little I've gleaned from reading about it online, there seems to be some debate about whether or not this in fact broke the law. Apparently, there is some nebullous zone wherein the President, being the Commander-in-Chief may act in that capacity without consulting Congress, in which case it becomes a matter of determining if he was acting in his capacity as leader of the government or Commander-in-Chief. I can't say I find that the most convincing argument, to be honest. Seems hinky that he wouldn't consult Congress. Of course, Congress has made it their business to derail most (not to say "all") of his projects, so I can easily see why Obama would want to go around them. It may very be that this broke the law, of course. But, if that's the case, he certainly wouldn't be the first President to do so while in office, right? There comes a point where you almost wonder what took him so long, however cynical that might sound. I suppose that, at the end of the day, I'd rather have an American be on American soil than in "enemy" custody. Hey, look at John McCain, if Bergdahl lives long enough (and doesn't go to jail), he could become a Senator. __________________
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Well, sure, Obama came in on "we're gonna do better" and then he actually had to do the job and, surprise, it's different than he anticipated. Didn't the guy before him go through the exact same thing? And the guy before that guy?
No one ever delivers on their electoral promises. Ever. I get that 2008 Obama was inspiring, but that's just not the reality of politics. And maybe he does go around like his poop doesn't stink... I'll be honest and admit that I have a different opinion on this specific perception of the man... but let's say he totally does. Don't they all? Obama's got a crap record with a whole lot of issues. And I seriously don't want to play the "blame the predecessor" game. He's the one in charge now and the buck stops with him. The thing is, he didn't become president in a vaccuum. A lot of those issues, and now I'm thinking specifically of the NSA and the VA ones, pre-date his administration. By how much, I don't know. But the VA issues are especially long-standing. They may date back to freaking Reagan (and beyond) for all I know. It's no justification for the man in charge now to have failed on that front. It really is not, nor will it ever be. I'm just saying that, again, he's hardly unique in that regard. And, like I said, for all I know, Obama broke the law by getting the soldier back without consulting Congress. I did find opinions on both sides of the issue. Apparently, Senator Feinstein has one. That's hardly surprising, considering she's a member of Congress. I can't imagine any of the members of either houses are particularly pleased they weren't consulted. For sure, Obama had a lot of opportunities to pass a whole lot of legislation. And I don't think it's "blaming Congress" to say that Congress has a part of why that didn't happen. If Congress was irrelevant, or likely to simply pass those legislations because they belonged to the same party, or however you want to slice it, you wouldn't be living in a democracy. I'm hardly an expert on U.S. politics, but I do know that even your Democrats skew conservative, especially when it comes time to making certain controversial calls. Look at gun control, for instance. Now, maybe the status quo is the best thing on that front. I'm just saying, that's a clear instance where even Democrats went "against" President Obama. Another example is how "Obamacare" is considered a flop. Again, not questioning how people perceive the thing. It's entirely within anyone's right to have formed whatever opinion they want to have about it. Where I live? It's seen as a success. One that got off to a spectacularly bad start, for absolute sure. But one that got there in the end. And I'd hate to "blame Congress" for that one as well, but isn't it a widely known thing that the law was tooled around so much in the House that what wound up being passed was a pale reflection of what was the original intention? And, hey, I love Clinton just as much as the next lilly-livered tree-hugger, but everyone also knows it's his administration that passed DOMA and "Don't Ask Don't Tell." So obviously, his accomplishments were many, but some of them clearly came at the result of pretty questionable compromises. __________________
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Better missing than leaked, I say, but still, it is very strange. Not sure if that means this is a Watergate incident, though. I expect they'll get to the bottom of this. And then we'll see if they let it be what it is or if it turns into another Benghazi. __________________
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Sounds reasonable enough. Of course, if lawmakers continue to refuse to vote on potential nominees, this may just bring back de facto fillibusters. __________________
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The fact that he's a veteran will help, but I have to imagine he's not the first former serviceman to be named to that post and the VA's issues are long-standing and numerous. So I hope for the best, but it's a little hard to muster much belief, to be honest. __________________
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To tell you the truth, I don't think anyone halfway reasonable would argue that we have diminished expectations of privacy nowadays and that, if there's a compromise to be made there in the name of national security, then so be it. At the same time, we need to make sure that mistakes aren't made in a system that relies on such a compromise from the citizenry. And we certainly need to know that it's worth the sacrifice. And I don't think we have that information. Not that I need to have that information personally, but some oversight of the system would be a most welcome thing, I believe. __________________
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Happy belated 4th of July, may U.S. friends.
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That's not a happy thought, but the point is that doctors don't show up right away when you get to the emergency room, even in an ambulance, and then they can't always keep you alive if they don't have the time to determine what the problem is. __________________
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I have zero problems with photo ID. You have to provide that when you vote here. But, when that law was passed here, there was a "grace period" given for people who couldn't possibly meet those requirements. It seems that same common sense has not been considered in North Carolina. Like I said, not very subtle at all. __________________
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But if he was an immediate danger, they wouldn't put him back on duty, would they? Not even desk duty. In light of shootings in armed-forces bases, his purported mental problems and everything, that'd be supremely stupid, wouldn't it? __________________
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On the other hand, this gives you a pretty good picture of what actually controls governments nowadays, doesn't it? __________________
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I mean, I understand the whole scandal of releasing purported terrorists. But they've held them this long. If they still were believed to constitute a risk, why would they be releasing them (or, you know, as close to releasing them as you can without actually doing it)? __________________
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Anyone have any ideas? __________________
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So I guess this is what happened:
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