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There is no excuse to take a human life when yours isn't in any danger. You have burglary on the one hand, murder on the other one. Heck even if she had wrecked his home, still the crime of murdering is far more severe. I am a lawyer, but I am not familiar with the justice system in US. In my country , considering guns are prohibited, there would be no chance for the old man to get away with it.
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#167 | |||
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Things are very different here certainly. May be not for the better.
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He could still be charged with murder, but the way the police is talking about it in that article, specifically the part where they say "should you charge someone based on a series of split-second decisions made when he'd just been the victim of a crime," leads me to believe he won't be.
And that do feels that tells you something about how seriously gun violence is taken. There's obviously no denying that he was the victim of what appears to have been a violent crime. Mind you, he still managed to recover quickly enough to pursue them and kill one of them, so he made a remarkably quick recovery. So it's not a matter of blaming the victim here. He was the victim of a crime. But does that mean he's then free to commit one of his own? And is that what happened here? I don't know. I'm just hoping the death will be taken as seriously as the home invasion. __________________
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I thought the argument was always that people who want guns will always find a way to get their hands on them. I never imagined there isn't a law against batterers and stalkers legally acquiring firearms. I mean, that seems like a no-brainer to me, even without going into proper, wide-raning gun control. __________________
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Personally, I just don't believe most gun owners in the U.S. allow kids to handle weapons. That'd be madness. If anything, it'll be more like when I was growing up and the hunters in my family thought me the proper respect and fear of firearms, seeing as indeed there is no such thing as a safe firearm. Mind you, this does help explain why so many of my European friends think most Americans walk around "packing." __________________
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"The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." avie by Jessie |
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However, guns are being manufactured in colors to appeal to women and kids. I think it is dangerous and very stupid. |
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Marketing to women, I have no issue with. In theory, adults are supposed to have the wherewithal to see through these ploys.
Marketing dangerous weapons to children??? I don't understand how that's legal. And, yeah, I know I'm anti-gun, but come on... Marketing cigarettes is illegal now (right? I think it is) because we all know how dangerous that is. Even marketing to adults is illegal. So how is marketing weapons legal? You have to be a certain age to enter the armed forces and/or become a cop. Surely part of that is the understanding that you need a certain level of maturity to handle the weaponry involved in those jobs. If nothing else, parents should be the ones to introduce their children to firearms, since they'll be the ones held responsible if it all goes to hell. __________________
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I don't think guns are advertised during kids shows etc. not like cigarettes were when I was a kid. |
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Pink guns for women is paternalistic crap as far as I'm concerned but, again, women are presumably able to see through that ploy.
I looked into it and, here, it's illegal to market things to kids, full-stop. Not entirely sure how that actually works, since we do have plenty of toy commercials on U.S. channels (and, presumably, if it was that illegal, those adds wouldn't make it to air here). But, yeah, marketing guns to children? That sounds criminally insane to me. But then, I suppose this is also how we get 12-year-olds being charged with murder. (I'm well aware that's a stabbing incident, which is not the same as a shooting. I am saying that, to me, this all enters a space in which the marketing creates a space in which kids will become crazy kinds of violent.) __________________
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A boyfriend was supposed to watch them, but evidently they were "unsupervised." They found a gun. No one left the gun out to be found. They found the gun. It went off. Like guns go off on their own all the time or something. __________________
Sunny
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