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Right to Bear Arms Discussion #2
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Alright, I don't understand why we're not addressing the main issue. If guns make people safer, and US has a very large percentage of their population who own guns, then why does the US have more violent crime than almost any other developed nation out there?
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I mean, this is a good video on it. It's from Michael Moore's documentary called "Bowling For Columbine" which, in my opinion, gives us a good look into guns and their history. And the whole movie is about what it is about America and guns. "So they passed the second amendment that said that every white man could keep his gun" "I loves my gun, loves my gun" ETA: This is also a good excerpt from the movie that not only shows America's history in violence, but how other countries are exposed to violence just as much, but still don't kill with guns as much as America does: __________________
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Yeah, if Bowling for Columbine taught me anything, it's that it is pointless to look for logic in the "gun culture: of the United States.
For one thing, which isn't in the movie, it's not even an accurate term, is it? Plenty of Americans live out their lives without feeling the need to own or use guns. So I don't know where the difference emerges, but it's obvious that it is there. __________________
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It’s interesting when I hear conservative I don’t think stiffer gun regulations. Again, I love personal freedom but I hate these crimes that are committed by guns. It’s hard. But then are many gun crimes that use long guns? Now that its' easier to get a long gun, will crimes involving these weapons increase? All questions I think about. __________________
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American's can buy a gun at 18, but they can't drink until 21 right?
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I have always been confused about how you can join the army and die for your country at 18, but can't have a beer until your 21.
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And, if you're 18, there's a bunch of States where they'll put your boyfriend (or girlfriend, possibly) if they're older than 21 and the two of you happen to have sex.
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Put them in jail?
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That was a remarkably convoluted sentence without much meaning in it, wasn't it?
I meant put in jail, sure, but especially put them on the register for sex offenders, which to me is the bigger crime. I don't think the jail sentences are very long in these cases, but being on the sex-offfender register is a lifelong sentence that carries the kinds of consequences that are completely ludicrous for a crime like this. It's even stupider when you think about the fact that a 22-year-old who slept with his, let's say, 17-year-old girlfriend is far more likely to voluntarily abide by the demands of the sex-offender status than a guy regularly throlling for little boys and girls to rape. Anyway, we're getting farther and farther away from topic here, so in an attempt to get us back on track: Quote:
The part that caught my attention in this story is that there's apparently a federal law in place requiring the availability of mental-health records for the background-check database. Of course, we've already seen that four states have elected to forego any kind of background check when a person decides to buy a weapon. But, otherwise, it seems crystal clear that a lot of states must have these "patients' rights" bills in place because that's obviously not happening even a little bit. And, under normal circumstances, I am absolutely in favour of protecting the privacy of anyone, especially with regard to their health concerns, but that background-check database does not appear to be open to the public, so I don't see any harm in the discreet sharing of information if it can lead to avoiding shooting rampages like Virginia Tech. __________________
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In American society, we are hypocrites or we create double standards for numerous things. Someone mentioned drinking and that is an excellent example of the hypocrisy and double standards we have in America. Drinking beer is not bad at all in America as long as you're of legal age. We say that we are against drinking and driving but the tone isn't there. We bash smokers and drug users more than we do drunk drivers. A drunk driver can do more damage in an instant than a smoker can do. It's okay if you drink yourself to death as long as you don't drive a car. But if you have a gun, you're a psycho or something. The hypocrisy is interesting to me. In America, we view guns, tobacco, and drinking differently. Smokers are like lepers, gun owners are psychos, but drinkers are okay.
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