Buffy and Angel - Winifred Burkle & Charles Gunn [Forkers] 12: "When my girl's not happy—I'm not happy!" - Page 2

**eternalfate** · 06-15-2019, 02:48 PM

Old School Gunn is fully out for this episode.

The boy possessed by Jasmine.

**starryeyesxx** · 06-15-2019, 02:49 PM

It all goes wrong again

**eternalfate** · 06-15-2019, 02:49 PM

Oh... Connor... the voice of Jasmine..

**starryeyesxx** · 06-15-2019, 02:50 PM

Pretty creepy moment

**eternalfate** · 06-15-2019, 02:51 PM

Back on the run time.

**eternalfate** · 06-15-2019, 02:51 PM

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Pretty creepy moment

Definitely was. lol

**starryeyesxx** · 06-15-2019, 02:52 PM

Angel not wanting to leave them

But, this ep is all about them doing what they gotta do, no matter how ugly

**eternalfate** · 06-15-2019, 02:53 PM

Angel needs to leave alone.
Jasmine showing her true evil colors now..

**eternalfate** · 06-15-2019, 02:55 PM

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Angel not wanting to leave them

But, this ep is all about them doing what they gotta do, no matter how ugly

You are exactly right!

**starryeyesxx** · 06-15-2019, 02:56 PM

Fred obviously realized that by the end, seeing as they were all fighting against those people, who are innocent people that are just possessed really

**eternalfate** · 06-15-2019, 02:56 PM

Thanks for this watch Sophie! and for watching both although we started later than expected.

**starryeyesxx** · 06-15-2019, 02:58 PM

No problem, it was good fun to get into Gunn/Fred mode again

& we killed the last thread!

**Crystal Clear** · 06-16-2019, 03:18 AM

TFTNT, Tia

Love that you two got through so many posts on the re-watch!

My thoughts on Supersymmetry:

The opening Gunn/Fred bedroom scene went from cute to hot very quickly
Lorne and Angel looking burdened by Fred's excitement in the office over her speech was hilarious Lorne was like,
Angel being uncomfortable with Fred/Gunn intimacy (because he's likely missing Cordelia) was also hilarious but quite sad
Gunn begging Angel to tell Fred he doesn't understand the lecture so they "both look stupid" was both funny and also a hint of how much Gunn cares about Fred - he wants her to respect him
The image of Fred thinking she was going to be swallowed whole by another demon/portal was frightening
Gunn spending the entire episode concerned about her was beautiful
Fred's line to Wesley about Gunn "he doesn't have it in him... That's part of what love about him" made up for her going to Wesley at all. She doesn't want Gunn to carry that burden.
The whole question of what it meant to murder the Professor and how it leaves Fred and Gunn's relationship hanging in the balance afterward is heartbreaking

**starryeyesxx** · 06-16-2019, 05:59 AM

It's such a shame that it's ultimately an episode for them that starts their downfall... because there are so many beautiful moments in it, like the ones you've listed. They're so happy at the beginning & he is so good to her throughout, & her talking about how she loves him...

**Crystal Clear** · 06-16-2019, 12:26 PM

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It's such a shame that it's ultimately an episode for them that starts their downfall... because there are so many beautiful moments in it, like the ones you've listed. They're so happy at the beginning & he is so good to her throughout, & her talking about how she loves him...

Agreed

It's the pattern of every Joss Whedon BTVS romance that with every great romance, there must come tragedy. This was the epitome of that. Gunn and Fred's relationship is a casualty of all the

that comes with finding out the truth of what really happened to her 5 years prior.

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