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Old 11-12-2004, 07:40 PM
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Angel episode discussion: She

Friday, November 12th @ 5pm(ET)TNT
"She" TV-14-DLV, CC
Angel finds himself caught in the middle of a war between the sexes when a female demon from another dimension fights against male oppressors
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Old 11-12-2004, 09:05 PM
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Two words: Angel. Dancing.
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Old 11-12-2004, 11:14 PM
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and wes dancing to dont forget about that. Oh god i don't even know which one was worse wes or angel. And when wes fell out of the car and cordys like"Wesley!" and also when wes slipped on the coffee beans that angel broke priceless
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Old 06-03-2005, 02:11 AM
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Aside from the 2 of them dancing (I completely love that) this was one of my least favorite episodes. It was kind of boring to me. When I go back and watch my DVD's I find myself wanting to skip over this episode.
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Old 10-14-2009, 02:46 PM
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The Good;
Angel and Wesley dancing at Cordy's party is possibly the funniest thing you've ever seen. A laudable if slightly heavy-handed rant against female circumsision. Also love the scene where Angel pretends to be an art guide and Angel and Phantom Dennis.
The Bad;
The scene where Wes tries to chat-up the girl at the party is cringeworthy, he's pretty much treated as the comic relief for this ep. The scene where the camera wheels around whilst Angel and Jiera talk, growing increasingly worked up carries on for so long and is so over the top it's almost parody.
Best line:
Mars; "The little sisters are chilling"
Also like Cordy's;
"I'm so glad you came. You know how parties are, you're always worried that no one is going to suck the energy out of the room like a giant black hole of boring despair but there you were in a cinch"

Jeez, how did they get away with that?
The whole 'unmaking' scene is just unwatchable. The contrast between it and the obvious affection between the 'unmade' girl and her captors when they send her back is incredibly creepy, especially her 'dead behind the eyes' expression and the way she refers to herself in third person.
Apocalypses: 4
Angel Cliches
Damsel in distress; 15, a whole bevy of them
Inverting the Hollywood cliche; Wes and CC snooping at the garden centre amazingly don't get caught.
In disguise; 3
DB get's his shirt off; yep, he feels the need for a shower
4
Cordy's tattoo;3
Cheap Angel; 2
Fang Gang in bondage:
Cordy: 5
Angel: 5
Wes: 1

Fang gang knocked out:
Cordy: 8
Angel: 7
Wes: 2
Doyle; 1

Kills:
Cordy: I'll give this one to Cordy. 3 vamps, 1½ demons
Angel: half a demon so 8 vamps, 4 and 1/2 demons, 2 humans.
Doyle; 1 vamp
Wes; 1/2 a demon

Fang Gang go evil:
Cordy: 2
Angel: 1

Alternate Fang Gang:
Cordy: 2
Angel: 5

Characters killed: 5, the poor guys burned to death by the demonbabes
25
Recurring characters killed;
1;

Total number of Angel Investigations:
3, Angel and Cordy and Wes officially joins the firm for the first time

Angel Investigations shot:
Angel: 6,
Packing heat;
Wes; 1
Doyle; 1

Notches on Fang Gang bedpost:
Cordy: 2 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast
Angel: 1;Buffy

Kinky dinky:
I'd say that Bai Ling is lovely but that seems quite redundant even with the ridges and violet eyes. Cordy's friend Laura also sounds like a fun girl as is her friend 'Pants on' Diego. Naked hotties on ice who seems to have a strong effect on both Wes and Angel. Mars says his Shaman could never turn away 'Scantily clad women in distress'. Wes refers to the girls at the party as 'fillies'.
Captain Subtext;
Obviously this is an allegory against female circumsision (once watched a documentary on it and afterwards went and got drunk for the first time in my life to try to blank the memory). Although you wonder if the males' fear of the females is more to do with them burning people to death rather than just simple chauvanism? Note that the male demons don't hurt any humans, it's Jhira and co who killing and she's quite prepared to let Wes and Cordy die for her cause. Not to stereotype but Wes has a knowledge of flowers in addition to the occult.
Know the face, different character; 2
Parking garages;
3,
Guantanamo Bay;
Angel once again beats his way to the truth
Buffy characters on Angel;
6; Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes
Questions and observations;
Angel refers to his time in Hell again where he remarks he knew many of the people. AI use their mobile phones to good effect. It'll take the Sunnydale Scoobies another 3 years to get theirs. Great performance from Sean Gunn as the spa manager, always thought he was in Desperate Housewives but he's not. Wes handles himself well in a fight for the first time. The only ep of Angel with a sequence over the end titles (Buffy does it in The Puppet Show). It seems unlikely that Angel actually knew Manet or Baudelaire as he would actually have been Angelus at the time?
Marks out of 10; 7/10, Keith Topping loathes this ep but I think it's quite good.
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Old 03-26-2013, 03:25 AM
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It was not the best episode. The story was a little lame.
But: I really enojoyed the dancing scenes Angel dancing OMG and Wesley dancing I cracked up
Their movements were hilarious
And then in the end credits Angel was dancing again yay !
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Old 03-27-2013, 08:20 AM
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The dancing was by far the best part of that episode Anytime I need a pick me up I go and watch that episode.

It's certainly not the greatest episode of the season but I though it was ok. The sexual tension was great
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:00 PM
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I really liked this episode. Bai Ling Makes me happy.
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:29 PM
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One of the Angel episodes ....mainly because it was very passionate and adult, not like buffy written episodes
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:35 PM
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The whole female mutilation thing certainly hits well... *shudders*
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Old 10-06-2013, 04:39 AM
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Found the dancing scene video on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eevRVVr15is


Its so hilarious.

PS: Bai Ling is coming to Germany next year (I hope she doesn`t have to cancel due to work)
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Old 10-06-2013, 11:38 AM
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That dancing scene is the sole part of this episode that I like I hate this episode witha passion
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Old 10-06-2013, 12:41 PM
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That's sad... I really like it. Wesley and the roses... the coffee beans. A mature/creepy/relevant subject matter, kick ass guest star...
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Old 04-18-2016, 08:05 AM
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That dancing scene is the sole part of this episode that I like I hate this episode witha passion
Me too
The end credits are so epic
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This episode was ok...the war between the male and female demons from another dimension was kinda interesting but I did find the plot a little dull....I dunno

Angel dancing was by far the best part of the episode, too funny He was imaging himself dancing like Wesley and was like nope Angel trying too squash the coffee beans and they end up spilling over the floor and then Wesley slipping on them was funny too
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