Lemariz

WITW is my favorite episode. I loved it. The writing was just brilliant. Some scenes were hilarious. And of course, a lot of CA kissage. Plus, it was a very artistic ep with the whole ballet thing.

tootyfnfrooty

it is one of my fave episodes in buffyverse ...until groo shows up

~♥~My Lonely Angel~♥~

This is actually one of my least favorite Angel episodes. It wasn't just because I don't like Cangel, I just didn't care much for the whole storyline. The only thing I enjoyed was that Summer Glau was in it. And the Gunn/Fred moment, blech....

lunas_borednow

Right with you there...

That broke my heart... and made me ill at the same time.

tootyfnfrooty

fred/gunn

lunas_borednow

But I really loved the look of the episode, the haunting feel of the backstage with all the props and things. Summer Glau...

And the start Wesley/Fred stuff with Cordy was hysterical.

"Would you just ask her out already I'm sick of hearing you talk about feeling your hot iron." or whatever that line was.

And Wesley stealing the stupid Frunn scene when he draped the shawl over Fred.

Then stupid Gunn stab ruin everything... I wish Wesley had got possessed by the count and just killed him!

tootyfnfrooty

i was so sure fred and was would be hooking up until that breakfast scene and i was like oh my god are they gonna hook them up

lunas_borednow

there is nothing clean I can say about how I feel about that...

tootyfnfrooty

Witw definaltely left Angel and Wesley hurting that is for sure

I_Love_JennaJameson

I will write a long detailed post about why I love WITW so much later, for now I am lazy

tootyfnfrooty

ok i understan i am feeling a bit lazy too

lunas_borednow

saturn5

WAITING IN THE WINGS
The Good;
All of it, great humour, great pathos, the ballet is beautiful and this is THE ep for Cangelers
The Bad;
?-actually how can Angel be so sure that it's the same people he saw 100 years ago, do vampires have perfect recall? And do we really believe that Angelus who casually slaughters entire famillies gets moved to tears by a ballet (or is he just gilding the lily for Gunn?). How does the Count explain that his ballet company appears to have no members?
Best line:
Showing the double edged genius of the ep (comedy and tragedy) it's either "I don't dance, I echo" by the ballerina or "You know I was cool before I met y'all" by Gunn
Jeez, how did they get away with that?
Apocalypses: 5
Angel Cliches
Inverting the Hollywood cliche; In the end the ballerina fades away, she's free but not as we might have expected her to go free.
In disguise; 8
DB get's his shirt off; 12
Cordy's tatt; astonishingly given all the nudity no,10
Cheap Angel; 9
He complains he used to be able to get better seats.
Fang Gang in bondage:
Cordy: 5
Angel: 11
Wes: 6
Gunn; 3
Lorne; 3
Fred; 1

Fang gang knocked out:
Cordy: 11
Angel: 14
Wes: 5
Doyle; 1
Gunn; 1
Lorne; 3
Kills: 3 minions for Angel and 1 for Wes
Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons
Angel; 39 vamps, 55 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans
Doyle; 1 vamp
Wes; 12 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans
Kate; 3 vamps
Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans.
Gunn; 8 vamps+ 8 demons.
Fang Gang go evil:
Cordy: 2
Angel: 2
Gunn; 1
Wes; 1

Alternate Fang Gang: CC and Angel possessed by the spirits of the ballerina and her lover
Cordy: 2
Angel: 8

Characters killed: the ballerina
46
Recurring characters killed;
8;
Total number of Angel Investigations:
5, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn and Fred

Angel Investigations shot:
Angel: 11
Wes; 1
Packing heat;
Wes; 5
Doyle; 1
Angel; 1
Gunn; 1

Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: so how far do CC and Angel go? Certainly plenty of above the waist action but probably not all the way. Cordy however confirms her relationship with Phantom Dennis.
Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis
Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies
Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde

Kinky dinky:
CC thinks that men would dig 'The Ravager' because she has 6 breasts. The jacket gag, some extremely saucy dialogue between CC and Angel. Lorne comments on Angel's yen for cheerleaders.
Captain Subtext;
Fred thinks Gunn is 'pretty'. The entire ep concentrates on the ballet. Lorne calls Angel a variety of pastries.
Know the face, different character; 4
Parking garages;
5,
Guantanamo Bay;
Buffy characters on Angel; 16
Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony
Questions and observations;
Amazed they let Joss away with the shameless plugging of his brother's band. Also amazed that Summer Glau had no acting experience prior to this, she's amazing both acting and dancing. Once again how would CC who was born around 1985 know about Spinal Tap? Wes shows his fencing skill which we saw him practicing with Giles back in SD. For a moment you really think that Wes will turn Iago style on Gunn and Fred but as CC comments he's a gentleman. Always wondered about the little moment when Fred turns to Wes and says 'I thought it would work out another way'. Does she know how Wes feels about her? Is she hinting that she's still interested? Lorne tells Connor the story of the Rat Pack, wonder if he knew Angel hung out with them? Start a "website", nice reach out to the fans.
Marks out of 10; 10/10 a real treat rivalling OMWF

lunas_borednow

Having just watched Giselle a few hours ago for the first time I can say the ballet choice was no accident, it is amazing how much the story parallels both the Prima Ballerina's story and in various ways the Fang Gangs story. Comparisons to Fred in particular are very very easy to make.

fresley4ever

It was scary how similar it was.