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-   -   Angel & Gunn Appreciation Thread #2: B/c Angel referred to Gunn as a member of his family whom he couldn't lose. (https://www.fanforum.com/f11/angel-gunn-appreciation-thread-2-b-c-angel-referred-gunn-member-his-family-whom-he-couldnt-lose-63228210/)

starryeyesxx 12-19-2019 02:14 AM

It definitely reminded us of some of the complications in their relationship, wish the writers had gotten into it a bit more after that episode too though :sigh:

eternalfate 12-22-2019 11:09 AM

^ I agree, it was on and off a lot of the time.

starryeyesxx 12-28-2019 01:55 PM

Yeah, it didn't come up very often at all... so you'd think they'd moved on from it because there's literally been no issue, & then suddenly you get an episode like That Old Gang of Mine :look:

eternalfate 01-01-2020 06:26 PM

I guess it was stuff hidden under the surface.

starryeyesxx 01-03-2020 03:14 PM

I'm not sure if it was though, they were like family to each other, they fought side by side so much. I do really think that Gunn had moved on from the his vampire issues when it came to Angel, the writers just brought them back up for no reason :shrug:

eternalfate 01-04-2020 11:54 PM

For me I don't think Gunn truly moved on from it, I just felt it was more writers not mentioning it... 2x08 ""The Shroud of Rahmon" again went at how much issues Gunn was having taking orders since he was his own leader and Angel was a vamp and all. And then again the arc became about the team getting pushed aside for Angel so there was never any time to dwell on Gunn's side... and then season 2 ends with one of Gunn's crew members (friends) dying in the hands of a vampire and his team feeling let down over their leader Gunn never being around.

So, I don't see that as Gunn moving on, I see that more as the writers pushing Gunn to the background so much where we don't get his point of view...

starryeyesxx 01-07-2020 11:38 AM

I felt like he did move on from Angel being a vampire - he obviously still had a problem with vampires, & always would. But he understood what Angel was, & I didn't think he held it against him anymore. I think the conflict that Gunn never really moved on from was taking orders from Angel, & then Wesley. He did follow a lot of the time, but I think that was always an issue for him, & would have been more likely to contribute to conflict between Angel & Gunn than Angel being a vampire imo :shrug:

eternalfate 01-20-2020 07:01 PM

For me, I felt it was more of the writers pushing Gunn's point of view to the back for a bit so we were suppose to believe it went away.... so I'm 50/50 on it. lol

starryeyesxx 01-23-2020 09:15 AM

Something to look into next time you do a rewatch ;)

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https://66.media.tumblr.com/b060d368...gmeo3_250.gifvhttps://66.media.tumblr.com/286827b2...gmeo4_250.gifv
https://66.media.tumblr.com/e837c9b0...gmeo5_250.gifvhttps://66.media.tumblr.com/1dc0fe20...gmeo6_250.gifv
https://66.media.tumblr.com/f99773ee...gmeo7_250.gifvhttps://66.media.tumblr.com/a86172a5...gmeo8_250.gifv
https://theangelrewatch.tumblr.com/p...-309-lullaby-4

eternalfate 01-26-2020 03:25 PM

Loved Gunn for pointing out the possibilities there.

starryeyesxx 01-29-2020 10:54 AM

Me too, even though it was hard for Angel to hear, somebody had to say it :nod:

eternalfate 02-08-2020 08:50 PM

Yeah! It was really getting serious at that time.:(

starryeyesxx 02-09-2020 09:31 AM

It was, & something as huge as two vampires having a baby... you've got to assume that that was more likely to be a bad thing than a good thing :eek:

eternalfate 02-09-2020 09:51 AM

^ Yep which was why when they found out the baby was human, it was such a shocker.

starryeyesxx 02-13-2020 08:47 AM

Yeah, that was such a good twist - & how he was born too :thud:

& as soon as Connor was born, Gunn was completely supportive of him :)


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