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Old 06-15-2024, 11:28 AM
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Well corruption that does lead to more money you know. So there is that.
Good point about corruption…
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That’s how they see it yes but I am baffled to why.



IMO yes, it helps them.



I do think Kerry did not like Karen so yes there is that. I am just saying Kerry did not like Karen because she was close with John and was jealous of Karen IMO. Kerry however did care about John more than Jen. At least this is how I saw it. Kerry also said things that actually help the defense case and not the common wealth. She obviously did not like Karen but I also don’t think she lied the way the Alberts and McCabes did.
It’s baffling.

That is good at least. So Kerry isn’t a part of the Albert and McCabe families at all?
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Well she said something weird on re-direct that made me a bit awry of John’s mother actually. Jen is Jen so she might have embellished stuff but basically even before Karen was arrested, there were conversations between John’s mother and Jen on checking facts and timeline so that they know what to say “when the time comes” (those are Jen’s words). So I don’t know I feel that John’s mother did not like Karen and did not need a lot of convincing to believe the McCabes and Alberts.



She did help with his niece yes so yeah it could be that. Still I would not want my child to spend time with that woman. It is dangerous .
Yikes. That’s so weird. That is his very own mother. Doesn’t she want the truth?

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It’s baffling.

That is good at least. So Kerry isn’t a part of the Albert and McCabe families at all?
She is not. And per Jen they did not know each other that well. Kerry is a friend of John since childhood. So she is not close to Jen. And Jen did say some not so good things about Kerry during her testimony. So I would not say they are close.

Kerry is not a fan of Karen for sure but she said her part in the trial and some of the things she said actually help the defense case instead of hurting it. Whether she knew it, is another discussion.
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Yikes. That’s so weird. That is his very own mother. Doesn’t she want the truth?

Agreed.
I guess she thought she knew the truth and wanted justice at all cost.
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You are in that group as well . And yes some men can be intimidated by smart women like us.



Jen is not an ugly woman. I actually think I can’t find her attractive because of her energy not because of her looks. I do find Karen more beautiful but that does not mean that Jen is not attractive at all. It is not her looks that is the issue here. It is her behavior and her energy and she comes access. She does not intimidate me, she annoys me because it is like let’s waste time to argue with the wall. She comes off as know it all and arrogant. Not as confident. She tries too much to be in control to come as confident. Confident people do not need this.


YOU ARE RIGHT. If she had better energy/personality she’d probably physically seem more attractive. Her inner ugliness just messes up any outer beauty.

I actually knew someone in college quite like Jen McCabe. Obviously a smaller version just because she was only 18 years old. But I would bet money now in her 40s she’s a lot like her. I’ve always been able to see right through people like this. Unfortunately, not everyone can see it like us, or they are even attracted to this type because they crave chaotic dynamics or being controlled.
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I guess she thought she knew the truth and wanted justice at all cost.
She’s also probably half asleep when the defense gets in very good points because she doesn’t want to listen. She’s completely blocked.
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YOU ARE RIGHT. If she had better energy/personality she’d probably physically seem more attractive. Her inner ugliness just messes up any outer beauty.
Exactly !

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I actually knew someone in college quite like Jen McCabe. Obviously a smaller version just because she was only 18 years old. But I would bet money now in her 40s she’s a lot like her. I’ve always been able to see right through people like this. Unfortunately, not everyone can see it like us, or they are even attracted to this type because they crave chaotic dynamics or being controlled.
Yes, unfortunately not everyone can see through people like her . I agree. Sadly some people don’t and get pulled into those people.
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She is not. And per Jen they did not know each other that well. Kerry is a friend of John since childhood. So she is not close to Jen. And Jen did say some not so good things about Kerry during her testimony. So I would not say they are close.

Kerry is not a fan of Karen for sure but she said her part in the trial and some of the things she said actually help the defense case instead of hurting it. Whether she knew it, is another discussion.
Oh wow, okay. I see.

Did she state why she doesn’t like Karen? Did she dislike her even before John was killed?
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She’s also probably half asleep when the defense gets in very good points because she doesn’t want to listen. She’s completely blocked.
Yes I guess in her mind she knows the truth and what happened and she does not want to hear anything does not support her beliefs. Cognitive bias at its best.
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Oh wow, okay. I see.

Did she state why she doesn’t like Karen? Did she dislike her even before John was killed?
I don’t remember. It is my assumption Kerry did not like Karen because of few things mentioned by Jen:

1. Kerry said apparently to Karen to shut the f&ck up when she was frantically screaming when they were looking for John and when they found him
2. Kerry said that Karen was glorified babysitter with benefits and that he was in love with his ex and not Karen

So if that’s true I think we can safely say Kerry did not like Karen. But that is said by Jen and honestly made Kerry look like a b&tch.
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Exactly !



Yes, unfortunately not everyone can see through people like her . I agree. Sadly some people don’t and get pulled into those people.
Exactly. Psychology can be complicated. Some crave Jen McCabe types inexplicably. So she has plenty of people to control and fool.
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Yes I guess in her mind she knows the truth and what happened and she does not want to hear anything does not support her beliefs. Cognitive bias at its best.
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I don’t remember. It is my assumption Kerry did not like Karen because of few things mentioned by Jen:

1. Kerry said apparently to Karen to shut the f&ck up when she was frantically screaming when they were looking for John and when they found him
2. Kerry said that Karen was glorified babysitter with benefits and that he was in love with his ex and not Karen

So if that’s true I think we can safely say Kerry did not like Karen. But that is said by Jen and honestly made Kerry look like a b&tch.
Gross.

Is there any truth to John not being over his ex?
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Do we have any clue when the defense gets started? When the prosecution rests?
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