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**jediwands** · 05-11-2022, 12:11 PM

I feel like ASP hated Rory in many ways. I’m not really sure what the deal was but ASP didn’t write Rory like Berlanti wrote Amy Abbott.

I completely understand why emotionally you have such strong feelings, Shu.

**jediwands** · 05-11-2022, 01:39 PM

**ds44** · 05-11-2022, 04:48 PM

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I feel like ASP hated Rory in many ways. I’m not really sure what the deal was but ASP didn’t write Rory like Berlanti wrote Amy Abbott.

I completely understand why emotionally you have such strong feelings, Shu.

Yeah she was just an appendage fir lorelai.

**stlavin95** · 05-12-2022, 03:38 AM

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I keep checking for Candice news like a lunatic. I really want to know what is going to happen. Maybe no news is good news and she is returning? You would think if she officially said I want out, period, it would be announced... unless they are still trying to get her to change her mind. But hopefully no news is good news. She is a fabulous actress and the show, even if concluding next season, wouldn't be the same without her. It just wouldn't make sense. Plus, they just killed Frost, not that this character compares to Iris... but they already did a big death there. They killed LL on Arrow. They cannot kill off Iris. No way. Too big of a comic character to go there even if they did it on Arrow. That's precisely WHY they cannot go there. What would it say if on Arrow and The Flash, this superhero world Berlanti has created, he kills off TWO female comic characters on his two biggest superhero shows, past and present? It would look really bad.

So I am holding out hope she is returning or at the very least, she will get a satisfying ending and return for some episodes with what's looking to be the final season.

Not to mention, killing off Laurel really backfired on Arrow and they ended up having to bring back KC as a different world Laurel.

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That's what I don't understand... why not recast him? I would have preferred the recast of Ralph and had Ralph and Sue around instead of the other secondary characters on the team. Stupid. But yes, either recast Ralph for next season or just give us continued heavy Sue. Sue and Iris have developed a terrific friendship too and Iris needs Sue as a friend. They cannot take this away given the current storyline.

Especially since his character would have pretty easy to recast as well.

**jediwands** · 05-12-2022, 05:44 AM

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Yeah she was just an appendage fir lorelai.

Which isn’t right at all.

**jediwands** · 05-12-2022, 05:48 AM

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Not to mention, killing off Laurel really backfired on Arrow and they ended up having to bring back KC as a different world Laurel.

100%, which really made MG look ridiculous. He knew it yet still fought it and said vile things in interviews and on Twitter before and after it failed. You can’t do what he did and not expect major backlash. Too many comic fans watched and/or liked the character in general. Yet he tried and severely failed.

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Especially since his character would have pretty easy to recast as well.

Absolutely. I don’t understand why they didn’t immediately recast. The pairing was instantly very popular, a classic comic pairing… so if you introduce you can’t just pull them away and expect fans not to be pissed. It’s also not fair to Natalie. Ralph isn’t the disgusting actor who once played him. Immediately recast!

**jediwands** · 05-12-2022, 06:35 AM

Bughead
Varchie
Choni

Kevin and Fangs can reunite, but I hate both characters individually.

My hope is Tabitha gets the hell out of Riverdale because she's too good for everyone and everything in that crazy city.

The end.

**jediwands** · 05-12-2022, 12:38 PM

The Flash: S08.E14: Funeral for a Friend

I am wondering if this is why Candice wants out… nothing makes sense right now.

Where's Iris' time-sickness urgency among the team? Why isn’t Barry super worried about her in this episode? I know someone died but his wife is suffering.

They didn't even care this much for Frost when she was alive.

This really sums up my thoughts:

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This episode really makes you think about Frost and what an amazing person she was. She was an artist, a risk taker, a poet, kind, generous, friend to all, a true hero...too bad that was all happening offscreen apparently, because none of that lines up with the person we've been watching. Frost has been, at best, an annoying waste of space who exists to get knocked around by the bad guy and provide half assed snark, and at worst, a horrible irresponsible person who has gotten away with countless crimes and gets mad whenever anyone tries to make her take responsibility for anything she has done and thinks mostly about herself. For as somber as this episode wants to be I admit that I was laughing my ass off half the time, I'm sorry if that makes me sound like a prick, and I did feel bad for the team having to deal with this grief, but the way they seem to be three seconds from calling in the Vatican to ask for frost to be declared a saint was hilarious. It would have been nice if they spent more time showing us how fun and creative and awesome she was instead of just talking about it after her death, but since they forgot to make her likable while she was around, they decided to just bring in a bunch of randos to wax on and on about how amazing and wonderful Frost was while the cast mourns like she was their lord and savior. My "favorite" parts were the judge apparently coming to her to apologize for presiding over her trail and how Frost "forgave her" and inspired her to be a defense attorney, the reporter guy saying how he admired her for standing against those "ridiculous" charges, and the guy at the coffee shop dramatically changing the name of her Frappuccino from Killer Frost to Frost after Dr. Snow dramatically commented on it. Oh yes, those ridiculous charges which were completely legit and based on her real actual crimes, how silly to try and hold her accountable for a few minor instances of attempted murder and human trafficking. The levels this show has gone to whitewash her history is astounding, its like they think that if they tell us over and over how those previous crimes weren't a big deal and how wonderful she is, we will just forget everything that happened. This might have worked better for me, even the over the top praising, if it was all about a character that I cared about, but I have never cared about Frost, and the show telling me to isn't going to change that.

Why is Iris even so sad about her death? Not only did she hardly know Frost, Frost tried to murder her! Maybe that's the real reason she didn't want to write her obituary, she has mixed feelings about her, but of course that's not it, because no one is allowed to be mad at Frost or Caitlin. Of course we only get an Iris at work plot when we can make it a big celebration about our lord and savior Frost who died for our sins. I also guess everyone decided to take a break from worrying about her time sickness?

I know that the mean girl reporter is supposed to be unlikable, but I did laugh at her "who told you that?" when Iris mentioned that Allegra must have done a great job running the office without her. She isn't exactly wrong from what we have seen of Allegra.

So after Caitlin's grief caused her to go behind the teams back and take a huge risk that got several innocent people and her "sister" killed, Caitlin follows that up for...going behind the teams back to take a huge risk out of grief. I swear, if we wasted a whole episode on everyone crying over Frosty only to have her brought right back, I might be done.

**Alexa** · 05-12-2022, 04:24 PM

Got Amazon Prime for 2 dollars so I could watch the Wilds Season 2! Yay. Toni and Shelby

Regarding jess:
I didn't love parts of how Jess acted but imo he was a messaged up kid and trying to sort his life. When he came back we saw how much he'd grown and matured. I think we needed more development on his character but regardless, the chemistry he had with Rory imo was the best.

I dont see the scene as sexual assault, I'm sorry.

I love Matt a lot. He is great in every role. But Logan.. idk, something about his is SO smarmy. I just could never fully get behind him. He always toed the line of like jerk and good guy? For me, the kicker was him hooking up with like 6 bridesmaids or whatever when he and Rory were barely broken up. That was just extreme.

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The Staircase and Welcome to Eden

The Staircase is an HBO series based on the Netflix documentary of the same name. Its a case about a women who "fell down the stairs". Very riveting series, and for a bit I didnt know if the husband had really killed her or not. But thinking about it now, its obvious he did. The 911 call sounded so fake to me, and she had trauma on her head. Plus the scene had so much blood. ANDDDDD his ex wife apparently died the exact same way... like SUS!

Welcome to Eden is a spanish show i think. About a group of kids who get sent to an island for a "party" but then only like 6 of them wake up the next morning to discover everyone is gone. They are told by the company peopel who threw the party that there is storm and they cant get on the boat to leave. Turns out this group of people live on the island and its kind of like this cult trying to recruit new people. They pick kids that are kind of damaged and have bad home lives. Not entirely sure what else its about cuz i just started it haha.

I prefer the new Laurel to the old one so much.

Katie cassidy does bad so much better than good.

**stlavin95** · 05-12-2022, 09:12 PM

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100%, which really made MG look ridiculous. He knew it yet still fought it and said vile things in interviews and on Twitter before and after it failed. You can’t do what he did and not expect major backlash. Too many comic fans watched and/or liked the character in general. Yet he tried and severely failed.

Definitely, MG was such a prick. Don't think the cast liked him that much either.

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Absolutely. I don’t understand why they didn’t immediately recast. The pairing was instantly very popular, a classic comic pairing… so if you introduce you can’t just pull them away and expect fans not to be pissed. It’s also not fair to Natalie. Ralph isn’t the disgusting actor who once played him. Immediately recast!

Definitely would have been the best move imo.

**ds44** · 05-13-2022, 02:34 AM

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Which isn’t right at all.

she treats the children of midge on MMM the same way. Like they are just there to be something to prove she isn't a horrible person or as the butt of jokes. But, atleast they are small so its not so glaring. I've made peace with it. But, it won't stop me shipping what I ship just cause a lot of people don't like it.

**jediwands** · 05-13-2022, 06:37 AM

^ I meant Varchie, not Barchie in post 112. Yikes.

**jediwands** · 05-13-2022, 10:35 AM

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she treats the children of midge on MMM the same way. Like they are just there to be something to prove she isn't a horrible person or as the butt of jokes. But, atleast they are small so its not so glaring. I've made peace with it. But, it won't stop me shipping what I ship just cause a lot of people don't like it.

That is really interesting there’s a pattern.

I think she brought back the series literally to stick it to Rory all the more. She was so mean to Rory, I couldn’t believe it, even for her.

**jediwands** · 05-13-2022, 10:39 AM

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Definitely, MG was such a prick. Don't think the cast liked him that much either.

I don’t even think Emily cared for him even if he was obsessed with her character.

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Definitely would have been the best move imo.

100%.

Especially knowing you were losing Carlos.

**jediwands** · 05-13-2022, 10:43 AM

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Got Amazon Prime for 2 dollars so I could watch the Wilds Season 2! Yay. Toni and Shelby

That’s awesome!

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Regarding jess:
I didn't love parts of how Jess acted but imo he was a messaged up kid and trying to sort his life. When he came back we saw how much he'd grown and matured. I think we needed more development on his character but regardless, the chemistry he had with Rory imo was the best.

Agreed.

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I dont see the scene as sexual assault, I'm sorry.

I don’t either even if clearly it wasn’t my favorite scene.

I think Dean was super creepy with Rory, he kind of made me uncomfortable and of course their lame affair.

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I love Matt a lot. He is great in every role. But Logan.. idk, something about his is SO smarmy. I just could never fully get behind him. He always toed the line of like jerk and good guy? For me, the kicker was him hooking up with like 6 bridesmaids or whatever when he and Rory were barely broken up. That was just extreme.

Same thoughts.

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The Staircase is an HBO series based on the Netflix documentary of the same name. Its a case about a women who "fell down the stairs". Very riveting series, and for a bit I didnt know if the husband had really killed her or not. But thinking about it now, its obvious he did. The 911 call sounded so fake to me, and she had trauma on her head. Plus the scene had so much blood. ANDDDDD his ex wife apparently died the exact same way... like SUS!

Welcome to Eden is a spanish show i think. About a group of kids who get sent to an island for a "party" but then only like 6 of them wake up the next morning to discover everyone is gone. They are told by the company peopel who threw the party that there is storm and they cant get on the boat to leave. Turns out this group of people live on the island and its kind of like this cult trying to recruit new people. They pick kids that are kind of damaged and have bad home lives. Not entirely sure what else its about cuz i just started it haha.

Both sound super interesting!

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I prefer the new Laurel to the old one so much.

Katie cassidy does bad so much better than good.

She’s awesome as a villain.

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