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03-12-2018 10:04 PM |
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Originally Posted by The Apt
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Oh okay. When I heard you say you read or on TV I assumed this played a part.
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TV could be used as an experiment. I find that quite often all TV series follow the same formula as far as characters composition. It's like they choose the same 10 groups and they need to have representative of each group.
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I’m just glad I don’t deal with this sort of thing, lol. Family, friends in three huge states... I’m not around this or have ever witnessed it... which could be why I find it hard to believe as a majority sort of thing.
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You are not NT woman. In general as far society goes F and S type are easier accepted than N or T types when it comes to women. Same goes for Feeler men. NT women have hard time fit in society unless they learn to fake stuff. Same goes for NF men because they are minority too.
Now of course my parents accept me the way I am. My best friend accepts me as well. Other friends do not know the real me so we can't know how much they accept me. Male co-workers have no issues with me for the most part (we all know how the jerk and ex boss feel :lol: ) but they are also involved so they see me as one of them. We talk about work and the NT mentality is quite useful in those cases.
This article mentions some of the NT women struggles.
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“I just wish it was socially acceptable to be an NT. I feel like women are ‘supposed’ to like and be outwardly friendly toward everyone they meet. Just because I don’t warm right up to you or care about making small talk doesn’t mean I am a bitch, and it doesn’t mean I don’t like you. I probably don’t care enough to have an opinion of you right away.” –INTJ, 28
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“NT women are caught in a conundrum. There’s the stereotype of the overly emotional woman and a type of dread that lingers around dealing with her emotions, but when confronted by an NT woman – whose primary view of life is not through an emotional lens – our very womanhood is questioned. Some people wonder why women ‘just can’t be more rational/less emotional,’ and then they finally interact with an NT woman and call her ‘frigid’. Women as a whole just can’t seem to win! NT women actually have a surprising level of depth to their emotions; we are still human after all! I find that my natural inclination towards seeking all viewpoints, outcomes and opinions leads me to have an overwhelming sense of understanding of our interconnectedness. I feel very deeply because I have an acute awareness of the effect that just one action can have on an entire group of people or a personal situation. This makes me cautious in social situations, aware of my impact on my loved ones, and provides me with a strong sense of wanting the people in my life to feel complete and fulfilled. I’ll run myself ragged trying to help a close friend or family member accomplish their dreams – and also feel personally responsible if they fail somewhere along the way. (Because of course, I should have seen that problem/hurdle coming, right?)” –INTJ, 31
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Most probably NT women are way more sensitive to being compared to the stereotype so they also notice more when people treat them that way.
Interesting podcast about ENTP woman and her struggles - https://personalityhacker.com/phq-qu...-for-nt-women/.
I so relate to her when she says that she does not feel offended when people talk about women and whether they can be leaders because truthfully the emotional people can't be leaders and if a woman is that emotional to let her emotions cloud her judgement then yeah she is not good for leading position. I feel the same way. I am not a man, but I also do not identify with women. I see myself in the middle where basically I talk about women as them/they and about men as them/they and I do not identify with any of the group.
I also relate to her when she talks about the concept of sisterhood or female friendships. It does not work for me either. In fact I can't even be in the same room with more than 2 Feeler other women. I have no idea how it happens, but gather more than 2 Feeler women in the same room and they start discussing this boring topics about kids and how they partners suck and I just can't relate. I have never had a close female friend to be honest and it's because I can't relate to women in that sense.
They are also correct that NT women never fully integrate in a full women group and sisterhood. It never happens. It's also true that Feeler woman can't fully understand Thinker woman and the other way around.
It'a also true that in most cases Thinker women are like either the only ones in their group of people around them or quite in the minority so there is definitely feeling of unbalance. It's draining.
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