zoomaces

By hot mess do you mean the mystery or ships?

Honestly, for me, this series is such a joy to watch. It is an easy, enjoyable watch. There’s nothing that upsets me when I’m watching this series, just the opposite.

I love the series. I’m so sad it’s ending soon.

I like sharing the 80s with my sister, we watch together (bring up 80s memories together), and watch with nieces too.

ds44

it just sounds messy. I will prob catch up eventually for the mystery while not caring for the pairings.

zoomaces

Got it. I don't feel it's messy, honestly.

The pairings... the only fandom I think is a bit... colorful, lol, is the Will and Mike fandom. They definitely are passionate. There's some fans that like Nancy with Jonathan or Steve but I wouldn't call it fan wars. I feel pretty strongly it's going to be Nancy and Jonathan. In fact, I'd be shocked if it wasn't.

I think the mystery is solid.

ds44

I don't much like steve so i need to wait until its over before I watch.

zoomaces

Haha, yes. See now I get what you mean. LOL.

Steve is a highlight of the series for sure. He definitely changes significantly from where he was in S1. He's a really good guy now and takes in the younger group nicely.

I love Steve but will want to throw things repeatedly if he ends up with Nancy. No thank you.

It's Nancy and Jonathan.

sporting

^ This. I cannot see anyone but Nancy/Jonathan. I don’t understand why they teased anything with Steve and Nancy last season. Not happening I don’t think.

I like Steve’s evolution but prefer the Jonathan type.

zoomaces

I feel like it was FOR Steve’s evolution.

The very fact that Steve pines for Nancy in a way means he understands what a prick he was in the past. He’s not that guy anymore, but at the same time he has regret from the past because he has evolved into a decent human.

That’s what I think it is.

sporting

That’s a great take.

When they had the dance and Nancy was a chaperone Steve was dropping off Dustin and he was sort of pining for Nancy this goes along with what your saying… regret over the past.

zoomaces

^ Bingo.

zoomaces

I’m listening to this song since you mentioned the dance…

sporting

Ha, I love that moment.

Steve in the car looking at Nancy driving off then Nancy flirting, staring at Jonathan. Perfect.

I also think LM and ME are so cute dancing.

zoomaces

That’s right. It was so “stuck in the past” and showing Nancy instead looking at the future aka Jonathan. Very telling.

I thought the first kisses between Lucas/Max & Mike/Eleven were adorable.

Alexa

Which is why I say this. Nancy/Jon were together in season 2/3 and 4. But season 3 was showing them growing apart. We dont have enough time IMO to break them up and put them back together. So either they break up for good, or they stay together the rest of the time. (again, unless there is a time jump which imo would be silly to slap them together in the time jump. putting her back with steve in the time jump i could see)

These are the possible scenarios I see:
-Steve/Nancy continue to dance around, her and Jon eventually break up. She gets with Steve in the time jump. In this scenario, Jonathan could die.
-Steve/Nancy continue to dance around, but ultimately decide they are better as firends or that Nancy is still in love with Jon. Steve could potentially die in this scenario.
-Steve/Nancy dance around each other, J/N decide to remain friends and break up. But then S/N also doesnt work out in the finale and they all remain single and friends.

I mean, thats basically any possible scenario, so anything can happen lol. But either way I think they aer going to explore steve/nancy more. They cant just drop it completely after last season, that would be so weird. But i agree it also doesnt make sense to build n/j as the main pairing for two seasons just to break them up??? So i really have clue. (this would not be the first time tho that a season 1 otp didnt end up together- looking at you stelena and djo)

because there is so little time it doesnt make sense to me to throw those steve/nancy hints in. They could have kept ehir season 4 scenes one sided, or platonic. But we saw clear signs that Nancy still liked him. And it was in every episode starting in episode 3, not just 1 or 2 moments, it was closer to like 6 moments. So, that is why I am hesitant to believe that nothing will come of it. It wouldnt make sense to me.

I do agree that the writers mostly see the ships as secondary to the plot but also not really because they literally ALL have couples? Like, that is a lot of romance on the side lmao. So its obvious they carea bout the romance aspect of the show as well. But, maybe they are only doing these s/n scenes to give them final closure as well as the fans. Thats what i am hoping at least. Please let me know if you see spoilers either way because I want to know before going in whether im going to be disapppointed or not.

I hope the spoilers you mentioned are true but we also dont have 100 CLEAR FACTS that they are even real spoilers. I also have literally always been right predicting endgames for shows. Rarely have I been wrong, so lol. Not to toot my own horn but if we do get S/N endgame I will be saying "i told you so!" ugh. I hope I am wrong here though.

There are so many pairings and Ive seen fans of all of them 100% confident that their pairing is going to be endgame and I have to laugh because someone is going to be disaappointed. I have a feeling the will/mike fans are going to be extremely disappointed with the outcome. They are already claiming "queer bait" which is actually a joke.


Yeah im not sure what part of Stranger Things is a "hot mess" its actually one of the best TV series out there IMO. So well done, so much drama, it continues to build... its fantastic.

Steve is amazing. He's my favorite character along with Hopper and Dustin. But I really love them all.

sporting

The brothers are good about showing foreshadowing in both mystery and relationships.

zoomaces

^^^ Exactly.

Man, I really hope they do not put her back with Steve. I don't see it but...

You're right on all those scenarios. You are also right about Nancy sort of responding but how much of that was Nancy just remembering a first crush/love? That is the thing... you never forget the one you have real feelings for ever. That is Steve for Nancy. Steve is also who she lost her virginity to as well. He will always be special to her. And she has to be happy he has changed too. I don't know. I still think she is totally in love with Jonathan. Distance is the only issue Nancy and Jonathan ever had and now they will not have that issue anymore.

Good thoughts.

I also think the Will/Mike fans are going to be disappointed. I just don't see Mike as struggling with his sexuality or being into guys... yet that is.

You are also right that if they fast forward to the future at the end of the series anything can happen.

I definitely think Stranger Things is one of the easiest watches and I don't feel an ounce of bad stress and anxiety while watching it. It's just such a FUN adventure and to relive the 80s again is beautiful joy! Love it.

What's amazing is I do not even know who my favorite character is. It can change depending on the scene and storyline! I love all the main characters, there is not one I dislike which is so amazingly rare.