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Everwood Fans who are Dawson/Joey & Pacey/Andie Fans of Dawson's Creek #34: Dawson's Creek... The series that got everything important wrong.



This is an appreciation thread for Everwood fans who are also Dawson/Joey & Pacey/Andie fans. For those who shipped these pairings, the series once had such great promise, but ended up being one of the most disappointing series to date. TPTB enjoyed manipulating the heart and soul of the old school (seasons 1/2) Dawson's Creek audience, who embraced the premise and the main pairings of the show; Dawson/Joey and Pacey/Andie fans. The first two seasons defined Dawson's Creek. Season 3 came along and the show simply wasn't the same anymore. New showrunner who essentially mocked the premise, destroyed the main pairings, and was basically just fine with dropping the quality in order to make the series his own. We know the drill. Discussing our main pairings, as well frustrations over storylines, writing, TPTB, fandom in general, is all welcome here.

Note: This is not a debate thread with other ships. This thread is strictly for Dawson/Joey & Pacey/Andie fans to appreciate the pairings and discuss aspects of the show, both good and bad. This thread was originally created to celebrate friendships between a couple of regulars on the Everwood board who, back in the day, posted on the Dawson's Creek board and encountered some terrible fan wars and not so great moments. We wanted a safe place to discuss our thoughts here on the Everwood board. That is how this thread was created. Jerry D, our amazing Administrator, and my very good friend, came up with the idea and the rest is history. For those of you who ship other pairings and don't agree with the content of this thread, of course there's the Dawson's Creek board and other threads scattered throughout Fan Forum perfectly designed for you.

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Josh Jackson/Andie photo:

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Dawson and Joey thoughts written by Jerry:
A Story of Soulmates: The Legend of Dawson and Joey

Alternate S5 & S6 : He made a solemn promise he would come and visit her. Hell, he even jotted it down in indelible black ink onto the crisp pages of her brand new journal while wearing a big toothy grin on his face, but regardless, it had been months since Pacey had made any contact with Andie. Andie forced herself not to overthink it and chalked it up to life getting in the way, but the smallest embers inside of her heart that yearned for him still despite everything that happened between them started to prickle at the back of her head. Although once the orientation process at Harvard was over and the real work began, Andie’s thoughts of Pacey Witter were sidelined in order to make room for the mountains and mountains of schoolwork she was receiving on a daily basis.

That was until, out of the blue, Pacey literally came sailing back into her life looking tanned, well rested, and even more gorgeous. Andie vowed to never let herself fall back in love with Pacey, she made an ironclad pledge to herself to never stray back into that hornet’s nest, but his soft, warm gaze pointed in her direction had Andie convinced his heart was remembering the way it used to love her.

She was one hundred percent correct in her assumptions.

The laughter between them settled into a deep warmth and easiness, and they talked well into the wee hours of the night and gradually, the intimacy they once coveted as a couple so long ago had returned to their bodies in triplicate. It started with Pacey’s hand brushing up against hers when she handed him a magazine from a convenience store shelf, which then evolved into their hugs becoming longer and more needy each time they touched. Soon enough, Pacey did the unthinkable, and asked Andie a question she never thought she’d hear again in her life from him…

Pacey Witter had asked her out on a date.

At first, they had both agreed to not invest too much of themselves into the date, stating an urge to take things as slow as they could in order to protect themselves from any harmful fallout, but Pacey and Andie’s mutually intense bedroom eyes that screamed “make love to me.” seemed to tell another story altogether. The immense pain of potentially opening up old wounds over how their relationship crumbled in the past fell to the wayside as Pacey and Andie ended up having passionate, raw, soul searing sex in Andie’s shower. Every single iota of mistrust, devastating heartbreak, and bad memories in their past circled its way down the drain.

And as Andie sat by her vanity, drying her hair and watching Pacey getting ready for bed, she smiled to herself. At long last, she finally felt like she could breathe again.




Fic Links that TL22 supplied and commented on:


1.Kiss Me Chapter 1, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction

This takes place at the end of season four. It's my very first P/A story. two short chapters. My version on how the graduation could/should have went.

2.Thanksgiving, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction

A short interlude of what could have happened between seasons three and four.

3.Finding True Love Chapter 1, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction

Fourteen chapters of what could have happened in the future. I wrote it over two years. The story starts season three when Pacey is getting ready to sail away. The end of chapter one has a unique twist, I think you'll enjoy.

The following is by ElizabethBella who wrote a fantastic Pacey/Andie story. (My favourite)

Come Sail Away Chapter 1: Separate, and apart, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction
This is a multi chaptered story, you won't be able to put down.

The next is another one of my favourites written by the very talented StevieLuvsAlex

No amount of time, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction

The next is a two part Pacey/Andie story written by me and StevieLuvsAlex. The first part is hers and the second part written by me won't make any sense if the first part is not read. Very very short

Everything happens for a reason, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction
Written by StevieluvsAlex

Everything Happens For a Reason part Two, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction
Written by me and takes up where Everything Happens For a Reason leaves off

https://www.fanfiction.net/story/sto...toryid=7420836

This is a glimpse of Pacey, Andie, Joey and Dawson when they were very young. The story is two parts..

The next link is by the author Makesmyheadspin. IT is a bitter sweet story and really captures Pacey and Andie.

Fate is The Hunter, a dawson's creek fanfic | FanFiction

Fan Fic Written by Jerry:
Ghosts

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WHY I WILL NEVER BE A FAN OF PACEY / JOEY

The first two links will take you to a collection of D/J stories and the last link to a collection of P/A stories:

https://www.fanfiction.net/community...nd-Joey/27781/

https://www.fanfiction.net/community...-Always/33166/

https://www.fanfiction.net/community...Fanfics/45942//

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2101505/1/Wandering-Heart


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Dawson's Creek......Lessons on how not to write relationships.
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I used one of the two titles listed in the OP we put down for future titles.
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“was the same, you guys, although I think I liked S3 better than most. Overall, though, it was really different and not the same experience anymore. I did like the series finale. At least the right pairings were together in the end. I did want to see Isabel and Kyle get together in the end and of course, it was awful when Alex died.”

Ahhh poor Alex. In S1 I actually felt a little bad for Tess because it wasn’t her fault she didn’t come out of her pod with the rest of them, but after the S2 reveal I hated her.
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“was the same, you guys, although I think I liked S3 better than most. Overall, though, it was really different and not the same experience anymore. I did like the series finale. At least the right pairings were together in the end. I did want to see Isabel and Kyle get together in the end and of course, it was awful when Alex died.”

Ahhh poor Alex. In S1 I actually felt a little bad for Tess because it wasn’t her fault she didn’t come out of her pod with the rest of them, but after the S2 reveal I hated her.
I felt the same way about Tess when we found out that she caused Alex's death.
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Ahhh poor Alex. In S1 I actually felt a little bad for Tess because it wasn’t her fault she didn’t come out of her pod with the rest of them, but after the S2 reveal I hated her.
That is precisely how I felt as well about Tess. I know Colin Hanks apparently was involved in another project but if they wouldn't have killed off Alex, Colin could have returned for the series finale.
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That is precisely how I felt as well about Tess. I know Colin Hanks apparently was involved in another project but if they wouldn't have killed off Alex, Colin could have returned for the series finale.
If I remember right I think he appeared in S3 as a ghost talking to Izzy. Shame he couldn’t be in the finale.
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If I remember right I think he appeared in S3 as a ghost talking to Izzy. Shame he couldn’t be in the finale.
Yes, exactly. Wish he could have been in the finale too. Instead of him dying they could have had him get severely ill and he had to go away for a while then brought him back in the series finale.
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I just watched a clip of Dawson and Nikki in Season Three, where they talked about the mutual disappointment they felt about their parents' divorces, and they really wasted the potential for a friendship, and possibly a romance, between them, because they wrote off her and her father (Principal Green) a few episodes later to bring on Pacey and Joey. The actress who played Nikki, Bianca Lawson, was really beautiful and she was a really good actress, and once again, the phrase wasted potential applies to yet another aspect of this show.
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I just watched a clip of Dawson and Nikki in Season Three, where they talked about the mutual disappointment they felt about their parents' divorces, and they really wasted the potential for a friendship, and possibly a romance, between them, because they wrote off her and her father (Principal Green) a few episodes later to bring on Pacey and Joey. The actress who played Nikki, Bianca Lawson, was really beautiful and she was a really good actress, and once again, the phrase wasted potential applies to yet another aspect of this show.
I agree. Excellent thoughts.

She was on Pretty Little Liars and was amazing.

Dawson’s Creek was so twisted. Dawson was not allowed to be truly happy. If Dawson got together with anyone not named Joey it would make Princess Joey in the minds of the writers look bad. Dawson was not meant to be happy unless Joey allowed him to do so.
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I agree. Excellent thoughts.

She was on Pretty Little Liars and was amazing.

Dawson’s Creek was so twisted. Dawson was not allowed to be truly happy. If Dawson got together with anyone not named Joey it would make Princess Joey in the minds of the writers look bad. Dawson was not meant to be happy unless Joey allowed him to do so.
That's all so true. When I watched that clip on Facebook, it strick me how beautiful Bianca Lawson was and her and James Van Der Beek played off each other really well, but then two episodes or so later, her and her father (who was one of the best adult characters that we ever saw on the show) were gone.
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That's all so true. When I watched that clip on Facebook, it strick me how beautiful Bianca Lawson was and her and James Van Der Beek played off each other really well, but then two episodes or so later, her and her father (who was one of the best adult characters that we ever saw on the show) were gone.
It is a shame if they were going to be brought to the show it was only for two episodes. If that is Joey she would get a full season. We had to watch her singing to her mugger and have some weird deal with the teacher.

Even Dawson and Gretchen was for Joey jealousy and the Dawson/Jen visit was to recreate the S1/parts of S2 Jen/Dawson/Joey triangle.

Everything for Joey.
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I just watched a clip of Dawson and Nikki in Season Three, where they talked about the mutual disappointment they felt about their parents' divorces, and they really wasted the potential for a friendship, and possibly a romance, between them, because they wrote off her and her father (Principal Green) a few episodes later to bring on Pacey and Joey. The actress who played Nikki, Bianca Lawson, was really beautiful and she was a really good actress, and once again, the phrase wasted potential applies to yet another aspect of this show.
Bianca Lawson is beautiful, really is a shame they wrote her off the show.
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The character was written so perfectly for Dawson too. They really could have had a great storyline together. She could have challenged him with their art. I would’ve preferred them romantically together over Dawson and Gretchen because it was clear Gretchen was used simply to make Joey jealous and Pacey pissed.
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I loved her on Pretty Little Liars. She was with Emily romantically. Only problem is the stupid showrunner killed off her character which is a bunch of BS because the character of Maya in the PLL Book Series DOES NOT DIE. I have absolutely no idea why the showrunner went in a different direction for the TV series. Bianca was great as Maya.
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