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Old 03-17-2022, 07:13 AM
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I feel the title of the thread is appropriate given our current conversation.

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Old 03-17-2022, 09:04 AM
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Yeah they will never have chad on! no way... they subtly sort of make digs at him too without actually saying his name.

Its totally weird they didnt mention 210 and how strange that was? They were like "that was a moment!" but like, wtf, they didnt find that weird? I did.
Wow, that is really bad if they make digs at him. Damn.

Beyond weird! I don’t get it at all.

You wonder if they prepare for these podcasts or go all natural. Maybe a little of both. But I don’t understand like 210 for example.

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Oh they wont be anti peyton at all beacuse at least they praise their own characters. The girls can do no wrong in their eyes, which is kinda ridic. Like, brooke has gotten a pass on literally every horrible thing shes done so far. Theyve written it off as her being a scared little girl. Sureeee.
Wow. She was devious during many moments in the first few seasons.

That is just dumb. Haley was an idiot throughout a lot of S1, especially when she made the ridiculous decision to marry Nathan at the end. WTF.

They need to be critical of their characters, especially someone like early seasons Brooke. WTF.

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And they are already making excuses for haley leaving to go on the tour.

Dont get me wrong, I love haley and I think she had a right to want to pursue music. Nathan also did sort of give her an ultimatum. Butttttt she did lie to nathan over and over. And she did kiss Chris twice. But her leaving was her saying the marriage was over. Like he said, she could have asked him to come with her but she wanted to do it alone. And then she never called him or even seemed that happy to see him when he came to visit. Then she comes back in 223 wanting him back? It didnt fly with me.
What's so ridiculous is you don't marry him then leave like that and kiss another guy more than once too. It was all so messed up and started with the bogus marriage that never should have transpired. But yes, the tour thing... she does have every right to pursue her music. But you also don't make such final decisions like marriage, then kiss another guy and act... not married to pursue music as well. SO DUMB.

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Joy said a while ago that he was going to be on, so that's why the Lucas hate continuing feels weird.
I guess they could be assuming he's not paying any attention to the podcast this entire time and will only focus on it when he will be on. No idea if he's tuning in but at the very least, he would have to have an idea of how the podcast is doing you would think. If he remotely pays attention he would see the backlash as well.

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The girls will definitely be anti Lucas in S5, there's pretty much no doubt about that.
Yes, if they want him crucified for early seasons Lucas, they are going to want to murder the character in S5. Who the hell knows what they'll say about LP in S5 too.

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Their inability to criticise their own characters is really frustrating, especially when it comes to Brooke. Already not looking forward to certain episodes in Season 3 and 4 were Brooke is clearly in the wrong, since I can't see them criticising her at all.
This just pisses me off. Brooke is terrible in those seasons.
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I guess they could be assuming he's not paying any attention to the podcast this entire time and will only focus on it when he will be on. No idea if he's tuning in but at the very least, he would have to have an idea of how the podcast is doing you would think. If he remotely pays attention he would see the backlash as well.
Think he would have some idea, since he has definitely been tagged in stuff been critical of the podcast in the past (at least on IG).

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Yes, if they want him crucified for early seasons Lucas, they are going to want to murder the character in S5. Who the hell knows what they'll say about LP in S5 too.
Yeah, it's definitely not going to pretty at all.

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This just pisses me off. Brooke is terrible in those seasons.
She really is and the last thing the fandom needs imo is more people making excuses from Brooke.
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Do you think that the male cast members were aware of Mark's behaviour back when the show was filming?
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Think he would have some idea, since he has definitely been tagged in stuff been critical of the podcast in the past (at least on IG).
Wow. Then he definitely knows.

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She really is and the last thing the fandom needs imo is more people making excuses from Brooke.
Why oh why, does this happen? First the fandom, now the actual actresses on the show. I do not get it.
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Do you think that the male cast members were aware of Mark's behaviour back when the show was filming?
THAT is a good question.

I really do not know the answer to this question. What pops into my mind is when Chad and Sophia were together then married for two seconds... was it bad during this time period already and if so, how much did Sophia tell Chad? Was Sophia with Chad because she felt it protected her? Maybe she didn't know as much since it seems she wasn't tortured as much as, say, Hilarie though.

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Old 03-18-2022, 02:44 AM
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Wow. Then he definitely knows.

Why oh why, does this happen? First the fandom, now the actual actresses on the show. I do not get it.
He does

Not sure, think the LP cheating and the writers never really holding her accountable are the main reasons for that.
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THAT is a good question.

I really do not know the answer to this question. What pops into my mind is when Chad and Sophia were together then married for two seconds... was it bad during this time period already and if so, how much did Sophia tell Chad? Was Sophia with Chad because she felt it protected her? Maybe she didn't know as much since it seems she wasn't tortured as much as, say, Hilarie though.

What do you think?
From what I've read/what the girls have said, Mark's behaviour got worse after season 3 so I'm not sure how much Chad knew when he was with Sophia. But it's pretty clear with what Hilarie said last year, that he was aware of what Mark was up to by the time they both left the show.

Also got the impression by some of the guys' reactions when everything first came out that the reveal of Mark's true nature wasn't exactly news to them.
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He does

Not sure, think the LP cheating and the writers never really holding her accountable are the main reasons for that.
Did they comment on Brooke trying to force Peyton back to Nathan who borderline emotionally abused her so she could be with Lucas or Brooke knowing Peyton had feelings for Lucas but went for him regardless?
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From what I've read/what the girls have said, Mark's behaviour got worse after season 3 so I'm not sure how much Chad knew when he was with Sophia. But it's pretty clear with what Hilarie said last year, that he was aware of what Mark was up to by the time they both left the show.

Also got the impression by some of the guys' reactions when everything first came out that the reveal of Mark's true nature wasn't exactly news to them.
Got it.

Wow. I wonder if any of the guys tried to do anything about it while it was going on or they generally stayed out of it?
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Did they comment on Brooke trying to force Peyton back to Nathan who borderline emotionally abused her so she could be with Lucas or Brooke knowing Peyton had feelings for Lucas but went for him regardless?
They did, Hil and Soph just said they had Brooke act that way for people to make more people like Peyton, which made no sense whatsoever. At least Joy said it made sense for Brooke to act that way.
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Got it.

Wow. I wonder if any of the guys tried to do anything about it while it was going on or they generally stayed out of it?
Think most of them tried their best to protect the girls from Mark.
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Apparently Hilarie and Joy are guest starring on Sophia's new show Good Sam this Wednesday.
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