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Old 04-04-2022, 07:33 AM
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I absolutely loved this incredibly heartwarming episode, which brought us back to the core of what made Everwood so unique and special – The themes of love, friendship, and family, as the lives of some of our favorite characters intersected in a wonderful way in what for some of them was the perfect day.
I think that's why we can forget about the vile toxicity that is Andy/Amanda in this episode... there was a S1 feel to this episode and even their gross affair wasn't going to prevent us from enjoying the other storylines. I guess in a way Andy's behavior even if it's the worst of the worst at the moment still ties into a very flawed Andy Brown which we viewed in S1.

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I really enjoyed seeing all these characters over the course of a day, and how they switched back and forth, telling different stories as the day wore on.
It was such a uniquely constructed episode.

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We saw Bright walk in to the Abbott house with his new “girlfriend” of the day, week or month, Jillian, a co-worker that he introduced to his “punk sister” Amy, and then Hannah walked in, and jealous, she told Jillian that she thought her name might be Barbie. Amy then told Hannah to “breathe” as her infatuation with Bright continued, and Hannah made a remark about Bright liking perfect looking women, and she tried to feign indifference, but Amy knew she was upset.
I think Bright has horrible taste. Even without Hannah looking at them, Jillian was an idiot. She looked like her IQ was missing. LOL.

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Amy mentioned that Ephram’s audition tape for Julliard was done, and that her nightmare was officially over and that Ephram's probably just hanging out, relaxing, with a big old smile on his face, but back at the Brown house, Ephram, being Ephram, was obsessing over which tape to send in with Andy, but this father and son moment was interrupted by the Hawaii Five-O theme song, which Andy had set as a ringer for phone calls from Amanda, ruining the moment as he stepped outside to talk to her. My stomach turned as Amanda planned to come home early without Charlie and pick her up at the airport and take the day off so they could continue their illicit affair.
To go from a father/son moment to gross Amanda makes you want to poke your eyes out.

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We then saw Ephram pick up Amy in his car and he suggested that they ditch school, setting off a day of adventure for them.
Such a cute scene.

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We saw an elated Harold walking to work with Louise as Harold was overjoyed that Andy wouldn’t be in the office that day, but his elation immediately ended when he opened his office door and he found that the waterline had frozen and burst, and this set off a very different type of adventure for Harold.
Harold should learn these things are just meant to happen to him.

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We saw Ephram and Amy at the diner teasing each other, but they quickly ran out of ideas for their “ditch day” and Amy decided that they needed backup.
I love how we visibly see the mountains in that scene. So perfect.

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Andy decided to bring Amanda to his house after he picked her up at the airport, thinking that the coast was clear, but Nina observed Amanda going into Andy’s house, and she confronted Andy about his openly having an affair with a married woman, and that somewhere along the line she (Nina) had stopped being his best friend and that he had taken up homewrecking, and for the first time since she knew him, she wished that she didn’t know him. The plot quickly thickened as Andy saw a robe clad Jake coming out of Nina’s house, and Andy looked shocked and dismayed, but he had no one to blame for this turn of events but himself.
Disgusting. Nina spoke for the audience.

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We saw Harold ask Edna to borrow Jake’s office so he could treat some of his patients, but Edna refused, only to be overruled by Jake.
Great scene.

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We saw Andy complain about Nina and Jake to Amanda, and how Nina looked down on him for having an affair with her, and Amanda tried to alleviate his guilty feelings about their affair, but those feelings weren’t going away.
If Amanda wasn't thinking about manipulating to get him to Vermont she might have been like Jake and picked up on the feelings between Andy and Nina.

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We saw Amy “kidnap” a reluctant Hannah and then they “kidnapped” Bright when Hannah went to his office and she tearfully told him that she had accidentally run over “Mr. Jingles,” and Bright, going along with the ruse, took up his boss’ offer to take some personal time, and he told Jillian that he had to go to a funeral but that he would see her tonight.
Such great scenes.

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We saw Harold and Edna bickering as Jake left for the day but then a woman came in with a bunch of sick kids, one of who threw up on Harold’s shoes, and mother and son were forced to work together.
I loved finding out they would be alone working together.

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Back at the den of iniquity, Amanda suggested to Andy that they go to Vermont the following weekend and that it would be her treat, but Andy said that their going away together would be a big step for them, but Amanda unreasonably said that she wanted more from their relationship and from Andy than she was getting, ignoring the fact that she was still married, and she left in a huff.
I cannot stand her.

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I liked seeing Bright, Hannah, Ephram and Amy walking along and enjoying each other’s company, but then Amy got in another dig about Ephram going to see Madison, and both Bright and Hannah were tired of hearing about it.
I love that Amy made it known this still bothered her.

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We then saw Hannah tell everyone the truth about her father and the reason she had come to Everwood, and we saw Bright embrace Hannah and he said he was sorry, but Hannah turned away from him crying as she was ashamed of herself for telling everyone about her father to elicit a sympathetic response from Bright.
I also loved the serious and concerned reactions from both Ephram and Bright when they found out.

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We saw Nina venting about Andy to Jake, and Jake realized that Andy was the “high school guy” that she had feelings for but who she couldn’t tell her feelings to, and Jake told her that Andy was a surgeon and those guys are all ego, and that they had a tendency to put themselves first, and when Nina apologized to him, he said that she needed to straighten things out with Andy.
I still believe the writers knew eventually Jake was playing a big role in getting Andy and Nina together which is why they had him find out very quickly. It was never for a triangle of sorts. If it was, we would have actually had a triangle. We do somewhat way later but not right away. I believe the writers wanted Jake to find out early on because eventually he would play a part.

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I liked the conversation that Hannah and Amy had as Hannah admitted that she told the story about her father so that Bright would feel sorry for her and like her, and that she was jealous of all the other girls that she saw Bright with and that she knew that he would never look at her the way he looked at them, so she decided to try another way to get him to notice her and pay attention to her. I liked that she called Amy out for continuing to berate Ephram about going to see Madison, and just like how Amy told her she had no reason to be jealous of the other girls that she had seen Bright with, Amy had no reason to be jealous of Madison, and that while Amy had given lip service to forgiving Ephram, she really hadn’t forgiven Ephram, but she really needed to forgive him and stop her passive-aggressive behavior with him, or else they would break up, and Hannah knew that Amy didn’t want that, and her and Amy hugged each other.
Beautiful stuff.

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I loved how Harold and Edna worked together as a team to treat all those patients, and the years of resentment that had built up between them seemed to melt away, if only for a short while, and I love seeing Edna smile at Harold.

I liked Andy and Nina’s conversation as she followed Jake’s advice to make amends with him, and I loved her honesty with Andy as she asked him to look at what he had been doing dating-wise since Julia died, and it seemed to her that he was making it his mission to seek out unavailable women like Dr. Trott, and Linda, and now Amanda, and that he couldn’t get involved with anyone unless the relationship had no future, and that he needed to check in with himself and if he continued what he was doing he might end up all alone, but Andy, still punishing himself for the way he had neglected Julia during their marriage, said that maybe he deserved to be alone because he had a good thing going with Julia and he screwed it up, but she told him that he deserved to be happy and to stop punishing himself and to fall in love with someone who could really love him back.

I loved the conversation that Bright and Ephram had about Hannah, and I loved how this scene perfectly illustrated the differences between these two young men, as the ever dour Ephram talked about how life had dealt them a bad hand and that tragedy was the only thing they had in common, and that they all had to deal with what they had to deal with, but Bright, ever the optimist, said that at least they all found each other and that they were all friends, and that there was a silver lining in everything that happened and that Ephram just didn’t see it, and that Ephram’s experience with losing Julia enabled him to help Amy through losing Colin, and that they could help Hannah get through what she was having to go through with dealing with her father’s fatal illness. I loved seeing Bright’s optimistic spirit in this scene, and I loved seeing a side of him that we didn’t get to see too frequently as he was often used for comic relief on the show.

I loved seeing the mutual respect and admiration that Edna and Harold showed each other as they finished treating all of those sick patients as they shared a drink from a bottle of Glenfiddich Single Malt Scotch that his father kept hidden for emergencies and special occasions, as they toasted “to beefsteak when you're hungry, whiskey when you're dry, to all the girls you'd ever want and heaven when you die. Cheers”. I loved seeing them reminisce about how he started working with his father and her and how terrified he was in the beginning, but that they were both patient with him, and he thanked her for staying, and she said that she wouldn’t have it any other way, and I cried watching that scene, and I’m crying writing about it now.
All of these moments were so bang on and special.

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We saw Andy go to see Amanda and she admitted that she was a married woman and she wasn’t acting that way, and I hoped that she would have ended their affair right then and there, but Andy, ignoring Nina’s advice, told her that he didn’t want to stop seeing her and he wanted everything that they could have together.
This was a disgusting twist.

I hate how so many episodes show Andy and Amanda as possibly ending the affair only for it not to happen. The audience is left exhausted wondering over and over again when the nightmare will end. We're afraid to go back to sleep in case of experiencing another nightmare!

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I loved the final scene with Ephram, Amy, Hannah, and Bright, just having fun, and I loved that Bright ignored Jillian’s phone call to spend more time with Hannah and everyone else. I also loved Ephram and Amy final conversation as he apologized for being such a downer that day but she said that he was “just being you, but that’s okay because I love you”. I also loved seeing Hannah’s journal entry as she wrote to her father and she said that it was amazing how the smallest things could change your entire outlook and that today had been the perfect day.
One of my favorite scenes of the series.

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Overall, I absolutely loved this episode, minus the Andy and Amanda parts, and I thought it was one of the best episodes of the season.
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Old 04-04-2022, 07:37 AM
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It's so easy to find amazing dialogue in all the episodes. Exchanges are often priceless!
That is so true. You can practically post the entire transcripts of the golden episodes too!
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What bothers me the most about Andy engaging in this disgusting affair putting aside the professional ethics of the situation...

He knows Julia cheated on him and what it felt like. He believes he deserved the cheating, too.

What about John? Is Andy thinking about how he was cheated on and he even thought he deserved it? So now he's crossing lines as a professional, is the cheater and is doing this to a neurologically impaired man, his past patient who deserved none of this? How utterly evil are his actions right now.
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This episode represented words that were finally exchanged. In every storyline, everyone communicated things to each other that were simmering inside for a long while... go down the list with all the storylines/pairings and "words unspoken" were finally communicated.
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Andy/Amanda: Disgusting. I cannot believe how they freely spend time at the Brown's not caring who sees them. They say the most ridiculous things to each other. Amanda has absolutely zero guilt and feels like the world owes her for the way her life has played out. It is perplexing. I don't know if it is the writing or how Heche has decided to play the character but from the moment Amanda decided she wanted Andy she has been persistent and snake-like, without guilt, total manipulation and loving every minute of it. She gets mad when Andy becomes confused and pauses, leading to more passive aggressive manipulation. Otherwise, she does not care she is married or Andy has two children, the town would absolutely rip them in two if they found out; she only wants Andy. Nina tells Andy he constantly goes for unavailable women and gives him a perfect speech filled with precise advice he really should follow. Nina gives Andy a roadmap to peace, calm and clarity! What does he do? Andy does the exact opposite of what Nina tells him to do. What makes it even worse is Andy makes it completely obvious that he's jealous over Nina and Jake. He was severely jealous and still didn't understand why he was so bothered, even after talking to Nina too and finding out Jake was over there in a chronic way. Andy didn't wonder why he didn't care about Amanda briefly while fuming with jealousy and confusion over the Nina and Jake reality? Nope. Even Amanda was too stupid to understand why Andy was so bothered. Instead they proceed with the vile affair. I also remember in S1 when Colin told him not to revive if it was bad and Andy was so strict about honoring his patient's wishes. What about John's wishes who cannot express them? Can you believe S1 Andy and now S3 Andy are even the same person? Unreal. Vile. I have never been so revolted by any relationship as I am with Andy and Amanda in history of watching television.
What gets me is that they weren't even trying to hide their illicit relationship, and it's also surprising that no one seemed to know about their affair except Harold and now Nina. That goes against what we saw in the past, like with everyone finding out about Linda's HIV to the point where she was forced to leave town, so I find it hard to believe that no one has found out what's going on.

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Andy/Nina: Nina was a spiritual goddess for ripping Andy about his affair. This was not just about jealousy, although that was definitely intertwined; but what Nina told Andy was the absolute truth. As mentioned, I am completely shocked that Andy took Nina's brilliant words and twisted them into trying to justify that he, indeed, wanted to continue on with the hurl-inducing affair with Amanda! Leave it up to Andy to hear the ultimate truth and then somehow find a way to still go against that truth.
I loved what Nina said to Andy both the first and second time around and I hate that he ignored her advice and continued to pursue a relationship with Amanda.

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Regarding Andy/Nina, and their reactions to Amanda and Jake on a romantic level... yes, there was jealousy circling everywhere like a pack of wolves. They are both very bothered over seeing the other with someone else. Berlanti, once again, makes it very obvious that Andy and Nina are his second main pairing of the series, but right now it is so frustrating to watch what Andy is doing. He is circling the drain, all because he feels he needs punished for covering up the Madison pregnancy, something he tried like hell to prevent in the first place by keeping them apart but they wouldn't listen. A bleeding ulcer couldn't make him see the light so he proceeds to go all in with Amanda and make the entire audience feel like we lost the real Andy Brown forever.
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Jake/Nina: I just don't like them but anything is better than Andy and Amanda. I take that back... I like that Nina has a boyfriend before ultimately ending up with Andy and after her failed marriage but at the same time, knowing what is to come and how long Jake stays is tough. But I can understand why Nina wants to be with Jake right now. Even lame Amanda understands why. I did find Jake's reaction to finding out Andy is the guy Nina is in love with very interesting. He is not happy, you can tell. Jake finding out was deliberately inserted in there as a future storyline in the series finale... Jake being the one to spell it out to Nina. One thing specifically I noticed in this one... Jake left work a little before 3 and then shows up at Nina's at almost 4:30. Where did he go in small town Everwood for that hour and a half? LOL. Yes, my mind wonders about the little details that could end up being profound, both in fiction-land and in the real world.
That's a good point, and I love how you pick up on details like that. At this point, I did feel glad that Jake valued and appreciated Nina, but I didn't like seeing them in a romance, but Andy was still blinded by his obsession with Amanda to see who he had standing right in front of him.

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Harold/Edna: Beautiful. This is my very favorite episode for these two even if S1 had a few good ones as well. Wow, was this episode just perfect for mother/son. I loved hearing about how Harold Jr was just getting started at the clinic while Harold Sr was very intellectually passionate and Edna was helping both her husband and son run the clinic as the head nurse. What a great little trio they must have been. I loved how they had "a drink" together and where the alcohol came from which made it seem like spiritually the trio was back together again (with Harold Sr in Spirit) sharing a moment. The mother/son quick-witted bantering is so fun to watch. Edna even recalled moments when Harold was younger. It is more than obvious how much these two really love each other underneath all of that bantering. What was so outstanding about this episode is the fact that they didn't constantly cover up their true feelings underneath the bantering. They actually opened up to each other and allowed some of their "realness" to show up and make it known they care about each other sincerely which is priceless.
I loved all the Harold/Edna scenes and I loved seeing how much they loved and respected each other.

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Bright/Hannah: They are really cute in this episode. I love Hannah going into Bright's work and coming up with that song and dance about a fake tragedy. Bright hugging Hannah was melt-worthy. I got goosebumps. It was an amazingly emotionally charged moment. Both of them racing each other to the top of the hill was adorable. That horrible idiot Bright is dating right now is nauseating. I know Bright and Hannah aren't perfectly matched now and in the future, but Bright with the other idiot is not a good match either. LOL. I love how Bright was focused on Hannah from the moment she told him about her father until the very end. You just knew Bright's mind is in a different place after this episode concluded.
I really liked Bright and Hannah in this episode and I loved seeing the concern he had for her. He showed a lot more depth in this episode than we usually saw him have.

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Amy/Hannah: Adorable friendship. I love the healthy balance they have going on. They really connect and instinctively read each other. I adored the bathroom scene as Amy crushes Hannah into a stall. Hannah: "I'm uncomfortable." Being the overly attentive student that I was in high school, I found myself bothered by Hannah missing her American History quiz! I hope she makes it up. LOL. I also loved the scene when Hannah and Amy are talking after Hannah tells Ephram and Bright about her father and Hannah turning the tables on Amy about Amy's jealousy as Hannah tells Amy she has NO REASON to be jealous of Madison since Ephram is totally in love with HER. Hannah has Ephram and Amy perfectly analyzed... she told Amy she is 50% of the problem as to why Ephram and Amy were fighting/bickering all day long. You can tell even in the car with just Ephram and Amy before they got Bright that Hannah understood Amy was being passive aggressive with Ephram. I loved how Hannah pointedly told Amy that she needs to forgive Ephram, drop the passive aggressive deal or else she is going to lose her relationship with Ephram, which Hannah, instinctively knew Amy didn't want to have happen. What perfect advice. Hannah has supported and believed in Ephram and Amy from day 1 which I will always appreciate. The way that Amy and Hannah can read each other is simply amazing. How they can have a conversation and integrate back and forth between each other's issues and problems is outstanding. This is a special friendship between two teenage girls. Dawson's Creek had nothing close to this (Joey hated everyone but boys) and One Tree Hill didn't even have this kind of friendship, not like this. Amy and Hannah both needed each other at this precise time as well... universal magic making it happen.
I loved seeing Hannah and Amy's friendship, not only in this episode but in general, and I've come to appreciate their friendship a lot more this time around.

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Ephram/Bright: The best scene of the entire episode was between these two. Wise and beautiful, Bright, telling Ephram about the silver lining... I love how Bright told Ephram that he was instantly all wiggy in love with Amy the moment he met her. How lucky they are to have each other. Bright was talking in spiritual terms and didn't even know it either... he mentioned how they all found each other, even Hannah right next door and what it means. Absolutely. It was all meant to be. You get the sense that Hannah will get through her situation with her father not just due to Amy but Bright (and Ephram) as well. I also love how Bright told Ephram that he IS young. Bright is wise, very spiritually wise. He gets it. He might not have the perfect grades or test scores but Bright understands what really counts, the big picture, love and kindness, strength of spirit, bonds, universal power and persuasion bringing people together with similar life themes that are meant to share important moments side by side as a whole.
I loved how they showcased how completely opposite Bright and Ephram were in this scene, with Bright being the total optimist seeing a silver lining in all the tragedy that they had to endure, and Ephram being the total dour pessimist who only focused on how they all only had tragedy in common. I loved how Bright encouraged Ephram to see that silver lining and acknowledge that he was still young and thay he had his whole life ahead of him.

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Hannah: Calling Jillian "Barbie" was priceless. Sure, it was out of line, but I still loved the raw jealousy. Hannah finally coming out and telling Ephram and Bright about her dad was heartbreaking. Ephram and Bright looked so devastated. Hannah getting so upset with herself for admitting the slight manipulative reasoning behind her telling the truth made me love her even more. Her balance of confidence and insecurity is beautiful. Growing up Catholic, I loved her comment about wanting to go to Church and "throw down some Hail Mary's."
I loved Hannah in this episode and I also laughed at the "throw down some Hail Mary's" line as I also grew up Catholic.

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I also love that Berlanti has Hannah and her family from Lakeville, Minnesota. Lakeville borders the city we live in. Hannah talking about all the lakes and beauty of Minnesota... oh yes, indeed, Berlanti and Rina understand the gorgeous beauty that exists in the state of Minnesota.
That's great, and what a treat for you to have your home state mentioned in this episode!

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Ephram/Amy/Bright/Hannah: How cute were the four of them sledding together? It doesn't matter what your age, sledding is so much fun with those you love and care about. The four of them looked so cute together, having a blast. I also love how initially they didn't really do much but that was the "emotional bonding" part of the ditch day. Then leave it to Bright to get them into a "sporty activity" of sledding together followed by Ephram and Amy and Bright and Hannah sharing moments alone together in pairs. Perfect.
I loved to go sleigh riding as a kid, and I even went sleigh riding as an adult once.

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Ephram/Amy: I loved how Ephram teased Amy by driving the car forward so she kept missing the door to get in. Their adorable bantering was "on" as usual. I love Ephram saying... "Tic, tock, Abbott.. the light's going to change any second." I loved how Amy bought Ephram the hat. The little things... how they both sat on the same side of the booth in the restaurant. Amy's jabs of jealousy at Ephram regarding Madison whenever the four of them were on the walk only showed how much she was not over the band lie. Amy to Ephram: "I thought you just went to a bar to see 'Madison' play?" I loved Hannah... "Guys, you are giving me a migraine." Amy telling Ephram she loves him was nice. Amy mentioning she was disappointed that they didn't have any alone time together... so then they went off together at the end and make no mistake about it... they were not just going off for a few kisses in the car. They were both glowing, hurried to drive away, in search of the safest, most secure place so they could have physical intimacy together.
I loved their scenes in this episode, but like Hannah and Bright, I was also tired of Amy bringing up Ephram going to see Madison. I was glad that Hannah called her on it and it seemed to provide her the impetus to finally put those feelings behind her.

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In addition, the emotional intimacy between these two is the best I have ever seen between any television couple... the longing looks, bantering, flirting, inflections, gazing at each other, eye contact. Seriously, it is PERFECTION. And so, so natural. That eye contact going on in the last scene before they go off to get intimate was amazing. Amy's change of voice into a "girly, flirty" type of tone as you could sense her excitement about going off to be alone and intimate with Ephram, was pure gold. As usual, all the credit goes to Greg and Emily for producing the Ephram and Amy masterpiece. I love how Ephram and Amy eternally conclude that they love each other and are meant to be together. It really is as simple as that.
They really were the most perfectly realized couple ever presented on television.

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Outstanding episode which really felt like S1 in quality and tone. Amazing episode. Perfect, truly a perfect day. It had a S1 tone. The episode was paced beautifully, as so many words were exchanged between characters with important moments that, at times, brought us back to the very beginning. I loved every minute of it minus Delia not showing up (maybe thankfully due to the Andy and Amanda vile mess) and Andy losing his mind even if a big general theme is HOPE... we all have hope for Andy Brown to find his way again even if this particular time frame is not a good one for him.
I completely agree.
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What bothers me the most about Andy engaging in this disgusting affair putting aside the professional ethics of the situation...

He knows Julia cheated on him and what it felt like. He believes he deserved the cheating, too.

What about John? Is Andy thinking about how he was cheated on and he even thought he deserved it? So now he's crossing lines as a professional, is the cheater and is doing this to a neurologically impaired man, his past patient who deserved none of this? How utterly evil are his actions right now.
I honestly don't understand all of Andy's actions in this season and it lessened my view of him.
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I honestly don't understand all of Andy's actions in this season and it lessened my view of him.
Treat Williams agrees with us.

I think Berlanti and Rina put way too much effort into making the pregnancy reveal big time dramatic. The character of Andy (affair) and even Ephram and Amy (lack of scenes, band lie) were sacrificed as a result.
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I completely agree.

What gets me is that they weren't even trying to hide their illicit relationship, and it's also surprising that no one seemed to know about their affair except Harold and now Nina. That goes against what we saw in the past, like with everyone finding out about Linda's HIV to the point where she was forced to leave town, so I find it hard to believe that no one has found out what's going on.
This town finds out everything, like you said, Linda's HIV and she was forced to leave town. Andy didn't think about what happened with Colin and how difficult that was not just on him but Ephram and Delia as well? That was something he couldn't have helped either. He was careless deliberately and certainly not thinking about how it would affect Ephram and Delia had the town found out he was having an affair with Amanda in the state John was in, even after being his doctor. It would have been so bad, the Brown's probably would have needed to move and he didn't care. Amanda did not care either. She didn't care about much of anything.

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I loved what Nina said to Andy both the first and second time around and I hate that he ignored her advice and continued to pursue a relationship with Amanda.
I truly think in Andy's mind, he was going to make it work with Amanda, almost like he took Nina's words about going for unavailable women and being all the more determined to make this one work, make her available. It was bizarre.

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I completely agree.

That's a good point, and I love how you pick up on details like that. At this point, I did feel glad that Jake valued and appreciated Nina, but I didn't like seeing them in a romance, but Andy was still blinded by his obsession with Amanda to see who he had standing right in front of him.
I wonder if it was deliberate and the writers wanted us to wonder about Jake at all times. The writers wanted his reveal about substance abuse and not telling Nina to hit harder or something.

I like how you call Andy obsessed... that's exactly what it was. Punishment and obsession... notice during this time period he isn't worried about the Madison pregnancy, he's not even actively thinking about it... he's doing far worse to distract instead of just telling Ephram the truth.

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I loved all the Harold/Edna scenes and I loved seeing how much they loved and respected each other.
I loved this episode for them so much.

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I really liked Bright and Hannah in this episode and I loved seeing the concern he had for her. He showed a lot more depth in this episode than we usually saw him have.

I loved seeing Hannah and Amy's friendship, not only in this episode but in general, and I've come to appreciate their friendship a lot more this time around.
Hannah's interaction with both Bright and Amy is really good. I know we said there is a mismatch with both, the eventual romantic relationship and the friendship, but it worked at this time. Especially the Amy and Hannah friendship. Amy desperately needed a friend at this time. She had Laynie but Laynie would always be attached to Colin and I think that's what the writers thought. Who knows, the audience might have been reminded of Colin as well with Laynie around. I still wanted Laynie to stay but you do have to wonder how the regular Everwood fandom might have reacted. Maybe Colin would have been brought up more with Laynie around and God knows that wouldn't have been ideal.

The Amy/Hannah friendship was really good and I even think during this time period Hannah was rubbing off on Bright in a positive way too.

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I loved how they showcased how completely opposite Bright and Ephram were in this scene, with Bright being the total optimist seeing a silver lining in all the tragedy that they had to endure, and Ephram being the total dour pessimist who only focused on how they all only had tragedy in common. I loved how Bright encouraged Ephram to see that silver lining and acknowledge that he was still young and thay he had his whole life ahead of him.
I wish Harold would have witnessed Bright from the moment the foursome started walking around in the snow outside, to when Bright hugged Hannah, as well as the Bright and Ephram conversation. Harold would have been blown away and so proud of his son.

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I loved Hannah in this episode and I also laughed at the "throw down some Hail Mary's" line as I also grew up Catholic.
It was very funny.

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That's great, and what a treat for you to have your home state mentioned in this episode!
Yes.

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I loved to go sleigh riding as a kid, and I even went sleigh riding as an adult once.
Timeless.

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I loved their scenes in this episode, but like Hannah and Bright, I was also tired of Amy bringing up Ephram going to see Madison. I was glad that Hannah called her on it and it seemed to provide her the impetus to finally put those feelings behind her.
I understood it but yes, it was time to let it go. I still hate that Amy never knew Ephram got Madison's phone number... or I should say I despise that the writers inserted that in there. It was so unnecessary.

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I completely agree.
They certainly were.
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I honestly don't understand all of Andy's actions in this season and it lessened my view of him.
Itś interesting that Jake grew on us this season, and Andy kind of fell from grace.
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A rewatch without you (or with you scrambling to catch up) isn’t a rewatch.
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Itś interesting that Jake grew on us this season, and Andy kind of fell from grace.
I wonder if it was deliberate.

All I know is during this rewatch I’m a lot more enthusiastic about Nina having a relationship with Jake. She really deserves this. We can rip apart Jake especially for the later part of the series but at the end of the day he is still 100 times better than Amanda. Nina needed someone to date after her divorce and before Andy, too. Jake filled this in-between relationship just fine. He might have stayed too long and it sucks that he was the one who had to tell Nina how she really felt but I blame that part on the writers. They wanted to keep it nice and dramatic until the very end. In addition, Nina and Jake and ultimately the Nina and Andy love story was affected the most due to the stupid merger.
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While eagerly awaiting more Everwood rewatch I still think this episode is one of the best of the series for Ephram/Amy/Bright/Hannah. It was just so good from start to finish. When you take every single scene involving one or more in this episode, it plays out like a mini-movie. There is so much going on: Hannah's annoyance with Bright noticing every girl but her, Ephram and Amy tension and working through stuff, Bright and Ephram having heart to hearts, bonding again, Hannah and Amy bonding tightly, Hannah revealing her dad's illness to Bright and Ephram, recognizing they are just teenagers who had to grow up really quickly due to real life events out of their control.
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