Everwood - Everwood Series Discussion Thread #3: If you had to pick one character who changed the most from The Pilot to the Series Finale, who would it be?

**jediwands** · 06-17-2016, 04:24 PM

EVERWOOD'S 2016 DISCUSSION THREAD

Welcome to the 2016 Everwood discussion thread! We were talking as mods and diehards of the show, and we're very interested in getting more discussion flowing on this board that pertains directly to the show.

The point of this thread is to have as many people contribute to discussion as possible. Part of the reason we're doing this is to keep the post counts up, but a much bigger reason is that we'll always know we have something Everwood-related to discuss, even though it's no longer on the air.

Rules are as follows:

1. Anyone is most welcome to join at any time. The more the merrier!

2. Please help us come up with good discussion questions.

3. This thread is generally a free-flowing discussion where we determine when we change discussion questions based how how the discussion is going.

4. This board has always been mature. This board is so unique and the maturity level is one of many reasons why. With that said, let's keep the discussions/debates going in a healthy manner. Of course we are not always going to agree but that is the beauty of why our discussions are unique... to be able to receive as many point of views and thoughts as possible on Everwood. Let's continue to keep it mature and healthy just like our norm as we debate/discuss our fabulous show.

Thank you and let's get to it!

everwoodfan52 · 06-17-2016, 04:28 PM

Thanks, Michelle!! Good job killing that thread!

everwoodfan52 · 06-17-2016, 04:36 PM

Discussion question......

What if Andy, Ephram and Delia arrived in Everwood after Colin died. How would the Browns have been known in Everwood and would Amy have approached Ephram so quickly if she didn't have a motive to save Colin's life.

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It occurred to me as I thinking on this one, that Amy might not have ever spiraled into such a deep depression if Colin had never come out of his coma (which if Dr. Brown had come to EW after Colin had died, wouldn't have happened). So I need to think this one thru for a while.

**jediwands** · 06-17-2016, 04:41 PM

^^^ Thanks for being faster than I am! Untopping the one, and adding the stuff in.

I went to untop, done... I went to add in the past stuff, done.

everwoodfan52 · 06-17-2016, 04:59 PM

Yeah, but you were faster posting the new thread.

**jediwands** · 06-18-2016, 10:14 AM

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Yeah, but you were faster posting the new thread.

I asked if you wanted to start it but then you were looking at other threads and then my PMs so I figured I'd just start it, haha.

Either way it was a joint effort.

**jediwands** · 06-18-2016, 02:37 PM

I just read this. No idea who write it but it was a fun read: Farewell Everwood (Series Finale Recap) | Give Me My Remote

Taryn74 · 06-18-2016, 04:21 PM

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I just read this. No idea who write it but it was a fun read: Farewell Everwood (Series Finale Recap) | Give Me My Remote

Ohh, that was nice.

Also? I am not crying. Shut up.

break the window · 06-19-2016, 02:37 PM

Remember the depression Amy fell into when Tommy died? I'm thinking it would've been pretty close to that same reaction.

Amy was all about Colin. Everything he did, she wanted to do. Everything he said, she hung on his every word. It was all about Colin. Even in his comatose state, she still was waiting for him to wake up, always clinging to him. I think she would've been in that same deep depression having no one to go to, the great Colin Hart would be no more.

With that being said, I think she still would have presented herself to Ephram before he did to her. Simply because she needed something to get her mind off of Colin. How she would have perceived him, who knows.

I think it would've been different for Ephram, though. Amy would have been someone to take of, someone to focus on rather than his loneliness that he was feeling in Everwood. Maybe Ephram might've had a different outlook on Everwood when first getting there if he had someone to focus on and that someone wanted to focus on him too.

Taryn74 · 06-19-2016, 04:56 PM

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Amy was all about Colin. Everything he did, she wanted to do. Everything he said, she hung on his every word. It was all about Colin. Even in his comatose state, she still was waiting for him to wake up, always clinging to him. I think she would've been in that same deep depression having no one to go to, the great Colin Hart would be no more.

I don't know, I just don't think her downward spiral would have been quite as bad if she never had any real hope Colin was going to get better. She had started to come out of it, IMO, as she got to know Ephram more before Colin's first surgery. But then when she got him back, and he was "perfect" (her words, even though we know he wasn't) and then she lost him a second time, that's when she got her world pulled out from under her.

I'm just not entirely sure she would have even "noticed" Ephram if he moved to town after Colin died, even if she wasn't severely depressed. I think the only reason she noticed Ephram in the first place is because of Andy. She believed a world-famous neurosurgeon moving to her small town when her boyfriend needed one was a miracle, and him having a son her age she could get to know just made it easier for her to approach him about Colin. In all honesty, I think she would have been caught back up in Kayla and Paige's world and not given Ephram another thought.

Which, IMO, would lead to Ephram not having a good reason to stay in EW when his grandfather offered to take him back to NYC with them. I think Ephram would have gone back, leaving Andy and Delia there. Delia would still grow up fairly well adjusted, but I think she would have had some problems stemming from her family being even more fractured than before.

Andy would have been a mess. He would put on a good front for Delia's sake, but I think "losing" Ephram so soon after Julia's death would have been really hard on him and caused him to really doubt if he could make it as a good father.

break the window · 06-20-2016, 09:34 PM

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Which, IMO, would lead to Ephram not having a good reason to stay in EW when his grandfather offered to take him back to NYC with them. I think Ephram would have gone back, leaving Andy and Delia there. Delia would still grow up fairly well adjusted, but I think she would have had some problems stemming from her family being even more fractured than before.

Very true. Delia was just following everyone's lead in how to live in Everwood. All she wanted was a pony and she was set. She hadn't really gotten to the ramifications of starting over and what it meant. That's what would be so scary.

Ephram was the glue that held them together. Fights and everything after, he was still the glue. He was the reason why Andy fought so hard. He wanted to show Ephram he could be the father and the town doctor all at the same time. Without Ephram he wouldn't have anyone to work for. He might've pulled a Harold a bought a town bagel shop.

Taryn74 · 06-21-2016, 08:01 AM

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He wanted to show Ephram he could be the father and the town doctor all at the same time. Without Ephram he wouldn't have anyone to work for.

That's true. I could actually see Andy "giving up" after a year or so, if Ephram left and it was obvious he wasn't coming back. Delia already thought he was a good dad (even if he was gone all the time) so he didn't have anything to prove to her. I could see them moving back to NYC, even though it would break his heart because he'd feel like he failed Julia again. But even if Andy moved back to NYC, I don't see Ephram ever living with him again. The damage was done.

Bottom line.....the whole thing makes me really sad and I'm glad it went the direction it did.

everwoodfan52 · 06-21-2016, 11:13 AM

What if Andy, Ephram and Delia arrived in Everwood after Colin died. How would the Browns have been known in Everwood and would Amy have approached Ephram so quickly if she didn't have a motive to save Colin's life.

Well..for one thing Bright might not have bullied Ephram, because there would have been no need without Colin.
Amy would have had no reason to approach Ephram, because he didn't fit into her group and she didn't realize what he was really like. She may have been a little intrigued because he was different and did have purple hair! But...she might have also listened to her snobby friends as they put him down because he was "weird".

If Amy was depressed over Colin's death it would have been an incentive for Ephram to approach her first. He may have noticed her sadness and gravitated toward her because he was also sad. This could have been an opening for a friendship.

**jediwands** · 06-21-2016, 03:26 PM

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Ohh, that was nice.

Also? I am not crying. Shut up.

I got teary-eyed too. It was so nice to go back in time but the problem was I didn't want to come back to the present!

**jediwands** · 07-01-2016, 01:40 PM

New question:

Why is Colin such a controversial character? Why do fans either love or hate him?

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