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Old 11-22-2004, 01:00 AM
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Discussion of the Week #4: Most Touching Alias Scene

What was the most touching Alias scene(s) you can remember? Why?



I think I am going to have to say the scene with Syd and Vaughn in the Korean jail cell in 3.12. Perhaps this scene is closest on my mind because I just rewatched this episode.

However, the scene was great. Vaughn had just been pretty snide with Sydney on the plane because he was doing as Jack had suggested and being as "noncaring" to Syd as possible -- as Jack put it, "Push her away, your concern is torturing her."

However, in the jail cell, they both realize they probably won't make it out alive.

And when they are both beat, Sydney is curled up in a fetal position crying "Vaughn." He tells her to "Come here." Just such a touching scene. Both are bloody and dirty, and they huddle together, chained.

Their conversation is great, too: "We'll find each other; we always do". However, the conversation is only a part of the overall scene. And the conversation could have been melodramatic, but it wasn't.

Perhaps the most poignant part of the scene was when Sydney and Vaughn were being led outside and lined up again the firing squad wall. With bloody bullet holes on the wall behind them, they just stare into each others eys.

For now, I think this is the most touching Alias scene.

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Old 11-22-2004, 02:24 AM
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The most touching and profound scene for me would have to be the one between Sark and Neil Caplan in 'Endgame'.

It was both so well written and performed, and the situation was one where this scenario could have been played out many times before, but really hasn't. You have the victim, Caplan, probing his captor, Sark, for the reasoning behind his life decisions.

But instead of pointing a finger at Sark and accusing him of being a bad person, Caplan seems to genuinely want to know how a potentially good and innocent person like Sark, could ever get involved with someone like Sloane.

The rhetorical question of what Sark's age is, is really just an expression of his bafflement and inherant sadness, over the direction this young man's life has taken. Now, Sark could have responded in many ways, the most obvious of which being to simply ignore him, but instead Sark seems to collect his thoughts for just a split second before deciding to spill his guts.

By telling Caplan about his childhood, Sark is not only revealing the only backstory we've gotten about him in the history of the show, but he's also for the very first time revealing some basis for his motivations and the catalyst to the life he's been leading.

When Sark says "I'm like anyone," he's essentially bringing himself down to a human level that's he's always seemed to glide a few steps above.

And the real moment of truth is when Sark claims, "What I want, is that which I've never had." And thus gives us an unarguable answer as to why he does the things he does.

Caplan doesn't seem overlly surprised by Sark's admission, but he does express concern that Sark was making a blatantly confidential confession, and now he's going to have to shoot the priest. Sark doesn't answer, perhaps because he doesn't know, but more likely because he wants Caplan to continue working under the threat of death, even if it's not real. I think for most people it would have been real, but instead of fearing Caplan and wanting to dispose of the confidence he'd shared with him, I think Sark felt a kind of connection, and the sensation of knowing someone out there understood him, even just a little, was something he wanted to keep alive. And so he leaves Caplan unharmed, despite all the reasons not to.

My second choice is the stairwell scene from 'Unveiled', and it's just... such an awesome development of character and of the relationship between Sark and Lauren. Before this scene they always seemed to be at each other's throats and watching their own backs, but when Sark murders Bomani to save Lauren, everything changes and the two of them begin moving and acting completely in sync, and they remain that way till the very end.



And a close third would probably be the scene with Sark and Syd in the van from 'Succession'. I wish it hadn't been cut, because it's original longer version was even better, but as it stands it's still a great, yet brief, scene. It's very straightforward in it's turning points for both characters. Sark- who up until now, had always seemed untouchable and essentially unphaseable, if that's even a word, makes a major change when his concerns about what's about to happen to him become too much to deal with, and he actually puts himself out there enough to ask Sydney if he's about to die. And Syd- despite all her previous claims of hatred for Sark, finds herself in this strange, emotionally heighted position, where for some reason she can't bring herself to comfirm Sark's fears, let alone revel in them.

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I agree with what most of you are putting down.

I can't remember the episode this was in, but when Francie and Syd take their weddings rings off together and "Landslide" is playing in the background. Just the fact both of them are moving on together, and the scene was so bittersweet.
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Old 11-22-2004, 04:40 AM
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The scene in Almost Thirty Years when Sloane tells Emily the truth about SD-6 gets me every time. That was the first time a TV show has ever made me cry. It's one of the most powerful things I've ever seen.
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Old 11-22-2004, 05:47 AM
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Their are so many ones I could say really, But the one of my fav was the (I can't remember which episode) time that Vaughn and Syd might have that fatal disease and there locked togther in that room and their just staring at each other, and when their sitting on the bed and vaughn has his arm around her.
It probably isn'nt one of the most touching ones but at the moment it is all I can think of.
I'll have to find another one and tell it later on.
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Old 11-22-2004, 08:16 PM
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Mine is in Broken Heart in Season 1 after Jack cancels dinner with Syd and she's crying with Vaughn by the river. Jennifer was just amazing in that scene, as was Michael, and "Angel" playing in the background made it even more touching.
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Old 11-22-2004, 09:21 PM
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Ceci I hadn't even remember that Sark/Caplan scene until you wrote that, but yes, a great scene. And, as always your art.

Katie That was from Season1, somewhere near one of the first episosdes, though I, too, can't remember which one. Yeah, Francie and Syd had some great funny moments, but that was one touching scene.

DeniseGah, I forgot about that one. Yes, it was great. I loved how they didn't actually show most of the speech, just Sloane talking, his mouth moving and Emily's reaction. The music overpowered everything but their acting. I think in the commentary on the DVD they speak of that technique.

Redfire Oh, yeah! Syd/Vaughn being held together in confinement -- that was a great GA moment

Lauren The ferris wheel scene! I almost listed that as the most touching, too!

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I'm probably a little older than the average ff.com user (I know I used to be back in the Roswell days), but I'm a mom, and for me, Alias is all about parenting. Jack's and Irina's (and Sloane's) relationship with Syd, Vaughn and his late dad, etc. This is nowhere more evident to me than in S3, where it underscores just about every ep.

So most of the parent/child scenes are really powerful for me.

Some of the most important:

All of Taken (especially Marshall saying "If anybody ever laid a hand on my mini-Mitch, I swear to you...");

Jack arranging Danny's death to save Syd;

Jack going to the wall for Will for Syd's sake;

Irina telling Syd that her grandmother would've loved her;

Jack telling Syd that he did the Project: Christmas training on her to protect her (and that it worked in the time between S2 and S3);

etc.
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Old 12-06-2004, 01:12 AM
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PJC Oh, those were some great scenes.

I just some of the Jack/Sydney scenes. On the Victor Garber/Jack appreciation thread, we are discussing all the times Jack did something to save or help or protect his daughter
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Old 12-06-2004, 01:31 AM
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I love the scene where Sark goes to Allison and tells her they can't change her back.
Im not an Allison fan but the scene makes me cry everytime. Like Ceci said, when Sark showed he was just human, this is the scene where I think it was really shown for the first time. You can see that Sark really does care for her and is heart broken about the procedure and then his realiation that She doesn't return the feelings to him and its just so sad!!!



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The True Cat great caps to go with that scene, too.
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Thanking you, i thought so to! Best way to show how great the scene was!
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Thanking you, i thought so to! Best way to show how great the scene was!
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Old 12-07-2004, 01:18 AM
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I'm not sure if it's the most touching but the pier scene from A Broken Heart is still my favourite.

And when Vaughn is dying in The Counteragent.
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I'm not sure if it's the most touching but the pier scene from A Broken Heart is still my favourite.

And when Vaughn is dying in The Counteragent.
Oh, was that pier scene the one with the ferris wheel in the background? I that scene... and Vaughn dying ... was that where he had the disease and Syd went in search of the cure/antidote?
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