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Old 03-19-2007, 11:44 AM
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Episode 4.16- You Call It Madness, But I Call It Love

LUCAS FINDS OUT WHO KILLED KEITH — It will be an unforgettable Prom at Tree Hill High when Lucas (Chad Michael Murray) discovers who was in the hallway when Keith (Craig Sheffer, who does not appear in the episode) was killed. Meanwhile, Peyton’s (Hilarie Burton) decision to skip Prom leads to dire consequences. Nathan (James Lafferty) and Haley (Bethany Joy Galoetti) vow to be romantic teenagers at Prom, while Dan (Paul Johansson) tries to win Karen’s (Moira Kelly) affections, as the witness to his murder closes in. Barbara Alyn Woods, Danneel Harris and Lee Norris also star.

Airdate: May 2, 2007


Writer: Terrence Coli
Director: Tom Wright


Artist: Nat King Cole


  • : This episode is the Prom.

  • : N/H go to the prom together and appear to have moved on from the sex tape debacle. Haley gets tired and they leave the prom early.

  • : There was a scene shot on the rooftop of Karen's Cafe. N/H evidently go there after the prom. N/H take their predictions out of the wall. ( from 3.07) Nathan excitedly picks up Haley and spins her around. It's a great scene that is believed to be a part of the coda. (credit to anonymous)

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Episode 4.17- It Gets The Worst At Night

EPISODE SHOT ON LOCATION IN HONEY GROVE, TEXAS AS PART OF NATIONAL CONTEST — The teens of Tree Hill mount a rescue mission to retrieve Mouth (Lee Norris) from his ill-advised road trip with Rachel (Danneel Harris). While on the trip, Haley (Bethany Galeotti) and Nathan (James Lafferty) get a second chance to enjoy the prom, and Lucas (Chad Michael Murray) and Peyton (Hilarie Burton) decide to take their relationship to the next level. Brooke (Sophia Bush) tells Haley that she lied about stealing the calculus exam, and Nathan struggles with the residue of a past mistake. Barbara Alyn Woods, Paul Johansson and Moira Kelly also star.

Airdate: May 9, 2007


Writer: Mark Schwahn and Jim Lee
Director: Greg Prange


Artist: Lucero


  • : James and Joy filmed a scene at the gazebo. (credit to Curlyhead on Main thread)

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Episode 4.18- The Runaway Found

Airdate: May 16, 2007


Writer: Mark Schwahn
Director: David Jackson


Artist: The Veils


  • : Everything about Nathan and his dealings with Daunte is coming out in 4.18, and N/H will have to figure out how to deal with this regarding their future. (credit to Sam)

  • : Whitey is confronted by reporters first. Later, at a press conference, Nathan, with Haley by his side, apologizes publicly to the school for shaving points and for his dealings with Daunte. Obviously, Whitey is furious. (credit to Sam)

  • : Haley observes the heated discussion between Nathan and Whitey. (credit to curlyhead)

  • : When Whitey is confronted by reporters, he's obviously angry and states something about how there's no way anyone can take away the state championship. (credit to Sam)

  • : Whitey is extremely upset with Nathan and confronts him in the hallway. He even goes as far as to say that Nathan's actions affected his own brother. Haley observes the intense discussion and is concerned. Whitey leaves as Haley approaches. Nathan kind of reaches for Haley's hand for support. (credit to Sam)


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Episode 4.19- TBA

Airdate: TBA


Writer: TBA
Director: TBA


Artist: TBD


  • The following spoilers are credited to anonymous:

  • : Nathan bursts into Turner's office to complain about Haley not being valedictorian. Nathan keeps saying that it isn't fair.

  • : Nathan and Haley are walking on the Riverwalk, and everyone is giving him nasty looks and calling him a cheater. Haley comforts him and says that everything will be okay. This has to do with the Daunte stuff.

  • : Nathan/Whitey's scene at the Rivercourt: Whitey yells at him and they talk about him losing the scholarship. But Whitey is also his usual fatherly self. He's angry but you know it's just because he looks after Nathan.

  • : Haley/Whitey scene at his house on the porch: She asks for advice about the whole Nathan/Daunte thing.

  • : At school, Haley is angry with Turner because she won't be allowed to be valedictorian. She also says that it's not fair that she be punished for something Nathan did.


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Episode 4.20- TBA

Airdate: TBA


Writer: TBA
Director: TBA


Artist: TBD


  • : The Tree Hill High class of 2007 graduates. None of the parents are there. Haley is the valedictorian. The students sit alphabetically. (credit to curlyhead)

  • : Haley goes into labor at the end of the episode. Her water breaks during her speech and Nathan runs up on stage to help her.(credit to curlyhead)

  • : Bevin/Skills/Nathan scene at the River Court: Bevin says hello and goodbye to Nathan. Nathan/Skills talk about their parents and graduation. (credit to Steph)

  • : Lucas/Haley scene in front of the hospital. Karen is in the hospital due to complications with her pregnancy. Unfortunately she has to miss the graduation ceremony, and Lucas is pretty upset about that. Haley gives Lucas a bound copy of his novel, a graduation gift from Karen. (credit to curlyhead)

  • : Haley is giving her speech and towards the middle/endish she stops. She says "I have more to say but I think I'm having my baby." Then Nathan jumps up. (credit to Steph)



General Spoilers/Articles

  • : Haley has her baby naturally. As earlier reported, Karen is in the hospital and there are some complications, so she has to have a c-section. Both babies are healthy and fine.

  • : There are no baby showers for either Karen or Haley.

  • : "As we have it right now...there is a time jump between ep 4.12 and ep 4.13 and then another time jump between ep 4.13 and 4.14. (The total time spanned between the two jumps will be a month.)"

  • From the Futon Critic: The CW picks up One Tree Hill for a full season of 21 episodes (8 additional added to the previous 13).

  • Official CW description for Season 4 barely mentions Nathan and Haley.

  • Mark Schwahn tells TV Guide that the limo crash will drive much of season four; "it will affect Nathan and Haley in a BIG way".

  • From ETOnline: James Lafferty says that this season, "alot of things change with Nathan."

  • From OTHFans.com
    -In a recent audio interview, creator Mark Schwahn stated that in season 4, "Nathan and Haley will continue to struggle, as all human beings do, but this time they will just struggle and face their problems together."
    - Naley fans will be pleased the relationship will be solid in season four... for the most part.

  • Amanda (hoyendish) expects NH fans will be happy during season 4

  • From Steph: In upcoming episodes, Nathan will be running around like "Super Dad", trying to be there for Haley and the baby.




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2007 OTH Television Schedule
(dates tentative to change)

Sunday, April 1, 2007 4.11 (Rerun)
Sunday, April 8, 2007 4.12 (Rerun)
Sunday , April 15, 2007 4.13 (Rerun)
Sunday, April 22, 2007 4.14 (Rerun)
Sunday, April 29, 2007 4.15 (Rerun)
Wednesday, May 2, 2007 4.16. "You Call It Madness; I Call It Love"
Sunday, May 6, 2007 Rerun (TBA)
Wednesday, May 9, 2007 4.17. "It Gets Worse at Night"
Sunday, May 13, 2007 Rerun (TBA)
Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4.18. "The Runaway Found"
Sunday, May 20, 2007 Rerun (TBA)
Wednesday, May 23, 2007 Rerun (TBA)
Sunday, May 27, 2007 Rerun (TBA)


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Promotional and Episode Pictures



Season 4 Promotional Pictures


Season 4 Episode Pictures


Promo Pics and Links


Episode 4.18 Filming Pics:
(thanks to fernando9elnino for the N/W screencap and Katie @ othforums for the N/H cap)


Episode 4.17 Filming Pics:
(thanks to Andrea for the screencaps)



More 4.17 Filming Pics In Honey Grove, Texas:
(Credit to MaggieMay form the CW board)



More 4.17 Filming Pics:
(thanks to ams06 who found them on myspace)


Episode 4.20 Filming Pics:
(Credit to Mela)




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thanks for the new thread
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Thank for the new thread. I like the title.
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Thanks for the new thread, the title is sweetness.
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Thanks for the new thread.

The reason that they would make Nathan bitter in 5 years if he loses the scholarship is because he did what he did for Haley and the baby. He is going to harbor some resentment towards them because of that. He could have dealt without basketball at the time he said that but now I don't think he could.

As for Stanford, they much like Duke, have made exceptions for players grades and test scores in the past.
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Thanks for the new thread.

The reason that they would make Nathan bitter in 5 years if he loses the scholarship is because he did what he did for Haley and the baby. He is going to harbor some resentment towards them because of that. He could have dealt without basketball at the time he said that but now I don't think he could.

As for Stanford, they much like Duke, have made exceptions for players grades and test scores in the past.
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I just don't really think Mark would have Nathan/James lose his scholarship and kill off the remaining sole link to basketball. You just know that in 4.21, Nathan is going to somehow retain his scholarship. After all this show is magic.
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I think it's a bit of a stretch to say Nathan's going to be bitter five years from now. Nathan's not my favorite person, but I don't see him reacting that way. We all have regrets or a few 'what ifs' in our lives. It doesn't mean we wind up bitter. And I would never see this Nathan ever being resentful towards Haley or the baby. I'm never Nathan's biggest defender, but that seems like a bit of a jump to make logically.

ETA: And I remember reading back a few pages about how basketball is Nathan's dream, his life, and if that was taken away from him, he wouldn't have anything else. That's a pretty sad conclusion to make or to assume. It's a pathetic reflection of Nathan's character if that is true. It doesn't mean his life is going to be falling apart if he doesn't get his scholarship. It's not the end of the world, and if it is indeed the end of his own world, then he has some growing up he needs to do.
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I think it's a bit of a stretch to say Nathan's going to be bitter five years from now. Nathan's not my favorite person, but I don't see him reacting that way. We all have regrets or a few 'what ifs' in our lives. It doesn't mean we wind up bitter. And I would never see this Nathan ever being resentful towards Haley or the baby. I'm never Nathan's biggest defender, but that seems like a bit of a jump to make logically.

ETA: And I remember reading back a few pages about how basketball is Nathan's dream, his life, and if that was taken away from him, he wouldn't have anything else. That's a pretty sad conclusion to make or to assume. It's a pathetic reflection of Nathan's character if that is true. It doesn't mean his life is going to be falling apart if he doesn't get his scholarship. It's not the end of the world, and if it is indeed the end of his own world, then he has some growing up he needs to do.
Ha, I just started thinking about it, and I had a change of heart, and believe that Nathan would not be some bitter, broken man. I agree with everything you said. Sure he would be disappointed, but I really do think he would find some way to bounce back. And I guess I could see him blaming himself for his mistakes, but I don't think he would hold Haley and Baby Scott accoutable for them also.
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And I guess I could see him blaming himself for his mistakes, but I don't think he would hold Haley and Baby Scott accoutable for them also.
That's exactly how I feel. If he were to carry some resentment, he wouldn't project it onto his wife or his son. Nathan has a roundabout way of showing his selflessness, and in this case, I could see him being hard on himself throughout the years if he didn't wind up playing college basketball. I'm sure it wouldn't go unnoticed by Haley either, and she may have some insecurities or fears that she held him back, but in the end, I could never picture Nathan being resentful towards Haley or his son. There's a difference between pondering 'what ifs' and being bitter for the rest of your life.
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Thanks for the new thread, Brit. Nice title.

We will probably skip 5 years or so, we won't get to see any Duke BBall related events anyway, unless we get flashbacks, right?

I also think it will be a great dissappiontment if they wrote Nathan like that. He already did what he did for Haley and the Baby, blaming them would be even worse than what Dan did with Deb & Nathan. It'll be character assisination and no one will sympathize.
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There is an other podcast on othpodcast.com video archives about the music. But there are no Joy and no James.
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IA (even though it was his fault).

I just don't really think Mark would have Nathan/James lose his scholarship and kill off the remaining sole link to basketball. You just know that in 4.21, Nathan is going to somehow retain his scholarship. After all this show is magic.
Well just because he would loose his scholarship doesnt mean he wouldnt be playing basketball. There are plenty of other good basketball schools around the country (esp. this year) that he could play at. Maybe this is the event that causes Haley and Nathan to stay close to home and go to UNC..or maybe they go to Stanford. With the series jumping 5 years they could go anywhere.
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We will probably skip 5 years or so, we won't get to see any Duke BBall related events anyway, unless we get flashbacks, right?

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I hope we do get to see either basketball flashbacks of him playing at Duke or he is going to enter the NBA draft or even what came to me a little bit ago due to the new NBA eligibility rule Nathan could play at Duke for a year and then decide to enter the draft so in 5 years we see that he is already playing for a Pro team. I do hope that we get basketball next season. I love seeing the basketball games and that was one of the big storylines for the entire show
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