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Welcome to the Kylo Ren / Ben Solo ♥ Rey { REYLO } Appreciation Thread   "If he could learn to love another, and earn her love in return by the time the last petal fell, then the spell would be broken. If not, he would be doomed to remain a beast for all time. As the years passed, he fell into despair and lost all hope. For who could ever learn to love a beast?" -- from DISNEY's 'BEAUTY & THE BEAST'     KYLO: "YOU STILL WANT TO KILL ME?" REY: "THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE BEING HUNTED BY A CREATURE IN A MASK..."   KYLO: "WHEN YOU CALLED ME A MONSTER -" REY: "YOU ARE A MONSTER" KYLO: "...YES, I AM"  "Love doesn't lead to the dark side. Passion can lead to rage and fear, and can be controlled, but passion is not the same thing as love. Controlling your passions while being in love, that's what they should teach you to beware, but love itself will save you, not condemn you." — Jolee Bindo, Knights of the Old Republic     The Red Thread of Fate ~ DESTINED FLAMES     FORCES OF DESTINY   Mind Readers | Cliffhangers | Force Skype | Yin and Yang | Power Couple Yin Meets Yang | Yin and Yang – Balance in Relationships Names Courtesy of Rian Johnson, via THE LAST JEDI Blu-ray Commentary ~ PAINFULLY INTIMATE | PRIMAL CONNECTION OUR HEROES | TRUE EQUALS BACK-TO-BACK | COMPLICATED ENEMIES     'Journal of the Whills' (Poetry used in The Force Awakens novel introduction) "First comes the day Then comes the night. After the darkness Shines through the light. The difference, they say, Is only made right By the resolving of gray Through refined Jedi sight."  "Kylo swore his loyalties were only to Snoke. But he was intrigued when he captured Rey, a Jakku scavenger whose Force abilities were raw but very powerful. A mysterious connection seemed to link the two." ~ StarWars.com {The Force Awakens}   Chapter 1 ~ Who's That Girl? FOCUS, FATE AND FASCINATION KYLO: "THE GIRL I'VE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT [...] FORGET THE DROID, WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED" JJ Abrams ('The Force Awakens' Co-Writer/Director): "So the idea here is that Kylo Ren’s gotten inside of Rey’s head, sees that she has seen the map and is now letting go of the droid as his goal, and focusing just on her. And clearly you think, well he must be able to just extract the information he wants now. But because he’s taken her, you get a sense that there might be something else going on here."    IGNITING THE SPARK REY: "WHERE AM I?" KYLO: "...YOU'RE MY GUEST" KYLO: "YOU'RE SO LONELY... SO AFRAID TO LEAVE... AT NIGHT, DESPERATE TO SLEEP" REY: "YOU... YOU'RE AFRAID" SNOKE: "AND THE DROID?" HUX: "REN BELIEVED THAT IT WAS NO LONGER VALUABLE TO US, THAT THE GIRL WAS ALL WE NEEDED" JJ Abrams: "Because of Vader, I think you expect him to need the mask. That, like Vader, it’s some kind of breathing apparatus, some sort of necessity. But when his mask comes off, you see Adam Driver [...] And he just looks like a sort of Prince." Rayne Roberts (LucasFilm): "There's something profound that happens between them. [Lawrence] Kasdan describes it as an "energy" between them, something more than you'd expect."     ♥  ♥  HONEST IN THE FOREST KYLO: "IT'S JUST US, NOW [...] I COULD SHOW YOU THE WAYS OF THE FORCE" REY: "THE FORCE..." SNOKE: "YOU HAVE COMPASSION FOR HER. I PERCEIVE THE PROBLEM - IT ISN'T HER STRENGTH THAT IS MAKING YOU FAIL, IT'S YOUR WEAKNESS" JJ Abrams: "What you really care about is what’s gonna happen in the forest between these two characters who are now alone." Rachael (JournaloftheStarWars.com) "There is no mention of Snoke or even the Dark side – Kylo is intent only on Rey, and the offer he makes is an offer made between the two of them [...] his regard for and fascination with Rey win out over his duty to Snoke. He selfishly wants her to himself" Adam Driver: "The title of 'The Force Awakens' wasn’t just referring to the light side, it was the dark side as well."     "Under Luke’s tutelage, Rey learned to feel the Force around her and understand her connection to it. But as her powers grew, her connection with Kylo strengthened as well – and Rey became certain that their fates were somehow intertwined." ~ StarWars.com {The Last Jedi}   Chapter 2 ~ You Are Not Alone.   ♥ FRENZIED FORCE FEELINGS KYLO: "CAN YOU SEE MY SURROUNDINGS? I CAN'T SEE YOURS... JUST YOU" Joshua Rothkopf {TimeOut, New York}: "Johnson creates a mystical form of FaceTime between Rey and Kylo Ren. Their running conversation hints at the inevitability of their meeting in the flesh; it even vibrates with a sexual charge. Star Wars has long been a form of Wagnerian opera, but rarely has it treated space and time this pliably." LA Times: "I’ve got a catchy name for Rey and Kylo’s sexy “Force connection” sessions for you: “ForceTime.” Rian Johnson: "I’ve heard “Force Skyping,” but that’s good!"" Tom Shone (Sunday Times): "Think of it as the Force’s answer to texting. Soon they are at it like teenagers." Rian Johnson {TLJ Special Features}: "I needed Rey and Kylo to talk, during the course of the film. I knew that I wanted to develop a relationship between them."     REUNION, RENEWAL, RESTORATION OF HOPE KYLO: "WHY IS THE FORCE CONNECTING US? YOU AND I? [...] YOU HAVE THAT LOOK IN YOUR EYES, FROM THE FOREST" Blake Howard (Graffiti With Punctuation Blog): "In the wake of Rey and Kylo’s final confrontation in “The Force Awakens” they are inexplicably connected. In this series, we see that their connection allows them to communicate across the galaxy like they’re talking across the room. These interactions feature some of the best and most sorely missed chemistry in the series since “Empire.”" Rian Johnson {TLJ Blu-Ray Commentary}: "[Adam and Daisy] were never not off-camera for each other."     PARALLELS - PARENTAL GUIDANCE   SENSUAL, SOULFUL STRING OF SIGNALS REY: "IT ISN'T TOO LATE." Tom Shone: "The lightsabers are not the only thing giving off extra heat these days." The New Paper: "The push and pull plays out like a seduction, and their palpable chemistry makes it all work."    PARALLELS - DEFYING THEIR LEADERS   "HIS GAZE WAS HUNGRY, AND KNOWING." REY: "I'D RATHER NOT DO THIS NOW" KYLO: "YEAH, ME TOO" REY: "WHY DID YOU HATE YOUR FATHER? GIVE ME AN HONEST ANSWER" KYLO: "I DIDN'T HATE HIM" Michael Semanick: "There’s one time when the force connection catches them off guard — when Kylo had just gotten done working out and Rey was walking somewhere..." Rian Johnson: "...The unavoidable intimate conversation with this person that she wants to just hate." Matt Martin (LucasFilm): "He actually spent a lot of time shirtless, just hoping for that connection to kick in."    PARALLELS - SOUL-SEARCHING   BELONGING REY: "I'VE NEVER FELT SO ALONE" KYLO: "YOU'RE NOT ALONE" REY: "NEITHER ARE YOU" Michael Semanick: "Rian wanted the rain and fire to peel away as their hands were getting closer. Having a big sound there just didn’t have the intimacy that the scene demanded. It can be so hard to get the balance right to where the audience is feeling the same thing as the characters. I wanted the audience to lean in and feel those hands about to connect. When you take the sound out and the music out, then it’s just two hands coming together slowly. It was about finding that balance to make the audience feel like they’re in that moment, in that little hut, and they’re about to touch and see into each other’s souls, so to speak. That was a challenge, but it was fun because when you get it, and you see the audience react, everyone feels good about that scene." LA Times to Rian: "So … is this the first time Kylo has ever held hands with a girl?" Rian Johnson: "I actually talked about that with Adam. Adam was like, “So … have I actually kissed a girl before?” Daisy Ridley {TLJ Special Features, 'The Director & The Jedi'}: "It’s only when they touch that either of them actually see what could be. And through that they build this kind of incredible intimacy. Luke should be the one nurturing Rey, and it’s actually Kylo that is."        *Love Letters to Rey * "I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU."     ♥ EUPHORIC ELEVATOR ETIQUETTE REY: "BEN. WHEN WE TOUCHED HANDS, I SAW YOUR FUTURE [...] YOU'LL TURN. I'LL HELP YOU. I'VE SEEN IT" KYLO: "I SAW SOMETHING TOO" Kevin Litman-Navarro (Jstor Daily): "You have chemistry with someone because part of that person’s identity is, in fact, part of yours. We recognize this on a metaphorical level in the way we speak of couples. Rey and Kylo Ren become Reylo, and there is no conservation of identity. [...] No wonder #Reylo is #goals. It’s a single thing, a separate entity, decentralized across two minds—a Gordian knot of Strange Loops, braided, intertwined, and inseparable." Tom Shone: "The subtitle of this movie ought to have been Inter-Galactic Bad Boys and the Women Who Love Them."    PARALLELS - WHY DO WE FALL? SO WE CAN LEARN TO PICK OURSELVES UP      "A PERFECT TEAM" KYLO: "I KNOW WHAT I HAVE TO DO." REY: "BEN!" Tom Shone: "There’s one great scene where they briefly join forces and slay a roomful of Snoke’s lieutenants that is just crying out for a climactic, blood-drenched kiss." Joanna Robinson (Vanity Fair): "I can say no moment draws more audible gasps and applause than when Adam Driver’s Kylo Ren and Daisy Ridley’s Rey whirl around in brief slow-motion, stand back-to-back, and take on a room of their shared enemies together. It’s the sexiest moment in a franchise that already featured a young Han Solo answering Leia’s earnest “I love you” with a smoldering “I know.” Joseph Schmidt (ComicBook.com): "Seeing the two work together was one of the best moments in the saga."         [x]    FANS a new hope jung trooper .:DoDs:. dragonfire unintended Movies toxicgurl169 ElizaSparrow shut_uo_ste ky02121 sourburst Musickat18 Maud&Danny we are not alone brave princess KingCrow LexieGrey katlicious I'm so behind... Tomorrow's skies Em183 Hellmouth CloisFan asterism Against_all_odds Silviq Kristen00 finite. AlexTiger Charlone TheCheshireKitten ina_am golden tattoo baelfire24 sweet creature ~these broken stars~ BabyBrooke123 4brathan&brucas Nici Dawson Veronakat Foxie Daxtreme Kimberly michelle1 peatmoss62 xmag Please send a PM to the OP or ask in the thread, if you wish to be added to the Shippers' list     Honorary Shippers The Force Funko Disney Best Buy Mark Hamill Adam Driver Rian Johnson Kelly Marie Tran Stephen Colbert Darren Hayes (Singer) Rob Lowe (Actor) Brogan Morris Arthur Chu Tom Shone Ben Shapiro Kara Warner Lainey Gossip Terri Schwartz Jenny Nicholson Jedi Jade (YouTube) The Den of Nerds (YouTube) Star Wars Connection (YouTube) Claudia Gray (Star Wars novelist) Bryan Young (Podcaster, Star Wars account Writer) Brian Kesinger (Former Walt Disney Animation Artist) Liz Dennebaum (Social Media Lead of Official Star Wars Twitter account) Rayne Roberts, Matt Martin, Pablo Hidalgo (LucasFilm Story Board Team)    "INCREDIBLE INTIMACY" - THE PROPOSAL KYLO: "REY, I WANT YOU TO JOIN ME. WE CAN RULE TOGETHER, CREATE A NEW ORDER IN THE GALAXY. [...] YOU HAVE NO PLACE IN THIS STORY! YOU COME FROM NOTHING, YOU'RE NOTHING... BUT NOT TO ME. JOIN ME... PLEASE." Brogan Morris (Vice): "One of the most beautifully twisted declarations of love ever uttered in a family blockbuster, before quietly pleading with her to join him like he’s the most desperately lonely person in the universe." Rian Johnson ('The Last Jedi Writer/Director): "I don't think that he's playing chess there. I think that this is something that he genuinely saw, and genuinely believes that because of this connection [they share], basically. It's less like, 'I can use this on her.' It's more, 'Oh my god, we have this in common, this is more of a kindred spirit that even she realizes.'" [...]It's a very naked, open, emotional appeal. It's his version of, 'I'm just a girl standing in front of a guy'..." Kevin Smith (Filmmaker/Actor): "You can tell, he genuinely cares about her." Ben Morris (The Last Jedi VFX Supervisor): "They just had this horrific fight, but Rian wanted this incredible intimacy and this cascading, twinkling waterfall of sparks from the fight before. I think it's beautifully executed and it gives such ambiance to that moment, as they come together and have a conversation, before they tear the saber in half."     PARALLELS - YOU OFFER HER THE GALAXY, SHE PLEADS WITH YOU: "DON'T GO THIS WAY"   ♥ PARALLELS - "YOU HAVE TOO MUCH OF YOUR FATHER'S HEART IN YOU, YOUNG SOLO"   PARALLELS - AN UNSTOPPABLE FORCE {YIN AND YANG - THE LIGHTSABER STRIKES BACK} LUKE: "THIS IS NOT GOING TO GO THE WAY YOU THINK" ROSE: "THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO WIN; NOT FIGHTING WHAT WE HATE, BUT SAVING WHAT WE LOVE" CautionSpoilers.com: "His relationship with Rey is one of equals, a constant tug of war and peace. [...] As they battle for each other’s hearts and minds."   FORCE TIME... NO GOODBYE REY: "DON'T DO THIS, BEN. PLEASE DON'T GO THIS WAY" KYLO: "NO, NO, YOU'RE STILL... HOLDING ON! LET GO" LEIA: "I KNOW, MY SON IS GONE..." LUKE: "NO-ONE IS EVER REALLY GONE" Pablo Hidalgo (LucasFilm): "It’s 'The Godfather' shot of the door closing between Michael and Kay.”        REYLO Articles  The Tangled Thread of Fate – The Beauty and the Tragedy of the Bond Between Kylo Ren and Rey "One of the most beautifully twisted declarations of love ever uttered in a family blockbuster..." How Adam Driver and Daisy Ridley Filmed the Force Connection Scenes for The Last Jedi How The Last Jedi became the Sexiest Star Wars Movie Yet The Last Jedi's Twisted Theory of the Self The Brilliant Execution of Reylo in The Last Jedi Part 1: Characterization & Ying-Yang Motivations The Brilliant Execution of Reylo in The Last Jedi Part 2: The Prophecy & Rey’s True Home Why Reylo Is Here To Stay The Last Jedi Director Rian Johnson explains how Rey and Kylo are Dual Protagonists Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Why Kylo Ren and Rey Will End Up Together Will Star Wars 9 Give Rey and Kylo Ren a Sex Scene? Jealousy and Possession in the Romances of Star Wars  [x]  ♥ Bonus! ADAM DRIVER INTERVIEWS DAISY RIDLEY for V Magazine 2017: Driving Miss Daisy         CRACKLING CHEMISTRY Ian Freer (Empire Online): “A more assured Ridley stands toe-to-toe with [Mark Hamill as Luke], but is even better in her ‘relationship’ with Ben Solo. Johnson’s conception of their bond is potentially embarrassing: Ridley and Driver not only make it work, they make it gripping."   Reylo Playlist  COLDPLAY - FIX YOU When you try your best but you don't succeed When you get what you want but not what you need When you feel so tired but you can't sleep Stuck in reverse When the tears come streaming down your face When you lose something you can't replace When you love someone but it goes to waste Could it be worse? Lights will guide you home And ignite your bones And I will try to fix you High up above or down below When you're too in love to let it go If you never try you'll never know Just what you're worth  ELVIS COSTELLO - SHE She may be the face I can't forget The trace of pleasure or regret May be my treasure or the price I have to pay She may be the song that summer sings Maybe the chill that autumn brings Maybe a hundred different things Within the measure of a day She may be the beauty or the beast May be the famine or the feast May turn each day into a Heaven or a Hell She may be the mirror of my dreams A smile reflected in a stream She may not be what she may seem Inside her shell  DANITY KANE - STAY WITH ME Raindrops fall from everywhere I reach out for you but you're not there So I stood waiting in the dark With your picture in my hands Story of a broken heart Stay with me, don't let me go Cause I can't be without you Just stay with me and hold me close Because I've built my world around you And I don't wanna know what it's like without you So stay with me, just stay with me I'm trying and hoping for the day When my touch is enough to take the pain away Cause I've searched for so long, the answer is clear We'll be okay if we don't let it disappear   MR MISTER - BROKEN WINGS Baby I don't understand Why we can't just hold on To each other's hands This time will be the last I fear unless I make it all too clear I need you so Take these broken wings And learn to fly again And learn to live so free When we hear the voices sing The book of love will open up And let us in Take these broken wings Baby I think tonight We can take what was wrong And make it right Baby it's all I know That you're half of the flesh And blood makes me whole I need you so  TEARS FOR FEARS - EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD Welcome to your life There's no turning back Even while we sleep We will find You acting on your best behavior Turn your back on mother nature Everybody wants to rule the world It's my own desire It's my own remorse Help me to decide Help me make the most Of freedom and of pleasure Nothing ever lasts forever Everybody wants to rule the world There's a room where the light won't find you Holding hands while the walls come tumbling down When they do, I'll be right behind you So glad we've almost made it So sad they had to fade it Everybody wants to rule the world   ALISON KRAUSS AND UNION STATION - IT DOESN'T MATTER It doesn't matter what I want It doesn't matter what I need It doesn't matter if I cry Don't matter if I bleed You've been on a road Don't know where it goes or where it leads It doesn't matter what I want It doesn't matter what I need You've made up your mind to go I won't beg you to stay You've been in a cage Throw you to the wind you fly away   THE ROLLING STONES - PAINT IT BLACK I look inside myself and see my heart is black I see my red door I must have it painted black Maybe then I'll fade away and not have to face the facts It's not easy facing up when your whole world is black No more will my green sea go turn a deeper blue I could not foresee this thing happening to you If I look hard enough into the setting sun My love will laugh with me before the morning comes I wanna see it painted, painted black Black as night, black as coal I wanna see the sun blotted out from the sky   SNOW PATROL - RUN I'll sing it one last time for you, then we really have to go You've been the only thing that's right, in all I've done And I can barely look at you, but every single time I do I know we'll make it anywhere, away from here Light up, light up As if you have a choice Even if you cannot hear my voice I'll be right beside you dear Louder, louder And we'll run for our lives I can hardly speak I understand Why you can't raise your voice to say To think I might not see those eyes, it makes it so hard not to cry And as we say our long goodbyes, I nearly do   SHERYL CROW - I SHALL BELIEVE Come to me now, and lay your hands over me Even if it's a lie, say it will be alright And I shall believe I'm broken in two, and I know you're on to me That I only come home, when I'm so all alone But I do believe That not everything is gonna be the way you think it ought to be It seems like every time I try to make it right, it all comes down on me Please say honestly you won't give up on me And I shall believe And I shall believe Open the door, and show me your face tonight I know it's true, no one heals me like you And you hold the key Never again, would I turn away from you  RED - PIECES I'm here again A thousand miles away from you A broken mess, just scattered pieces of who I am I tried so hard Thought I could do this on my own I've lost so much along the way Then I'll see your face I know I'm finally yours I find everything I thought I lost before You call my name I come to you in pieces So you can make me whole I've come undone But you make sense of who I am Like puzzle pieces in your eye I tried so hard! So hard! I tried so hard!   INXS - NEVER TEAR US APART Don't ask me What you know is true Don't have to tell you I love your precious heart I was standing You were there Two worlds collided And they could never tear us apart We could live For a thousand years But if I hurt you I'd make wine from your tears I told you That we could fly 'Cause we all have wings But some of us don't know why   REYLO ART    ♥  Reylo FanFiction   ♥   Future Thread Title Suggestions:  “When he peers into her mind, there’s something profound that happens between them” – Rayne Roberts “Larry Kasdan describes it as “an energy between them”... Something more than you’d expect” – Rayne Roberts “The continued emotional turmoil from The Force Awakens was humanised with Ren’s relationship with Rey” - Thomas Broome-Jones “He actually spent a lot of time shirtless, just hoping for that connection to kick in.” – Matt Martin “Daisy and Adam share a palpable chemistry with each other as magnetic antagonists” - Dustin Putman “The most intriguing element of "TLJ" is their dangerous intertwined bond” - Dustin Putman “Their push-pull tension gives The Last Jedi its kinetic energy, and builds to a stunning climax" - StudentEdge.org "He quietly pleads with her to join him like he’s the most desperately lonely person in the universe" - Brogan Morris “My idea (for their relationship) is always going to be more sentimental and obvious” – Adam Driver “He definitely views Rey in a unique kind of way?” Adam: “Oh for sure, I would say” “His relationship with Rey is one of equals, a constant tug of war and peace." - CautionSpoilers.com "Rey is also open to darkness, as they battle for each other’s hearts and minds." - CautionSpoilers.com "You have no place in this story. You come from nothing. You're nothing... But not to me." "Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver MAKE the movie. More of them. Please and thank you." - Rob Lowe "I’ve got a catchy name for Rey and Kylo’s sexy “Force connection” sessions for you: “ForceTime.” - LA Times to Rian "He genuinely believes "Oh my god, we have this in common, this is more of a kindred spirit that even she realizes"" - Rian Johnson Raindrops fall from everywhere... I reach out for you, but you're not there (from Stay with Me) It's my own desire, it's my own remorse; help me to decide... (from Everybody Wants to Rule the World) Please say honestly, you won't give up on me... And I shall believe. (from I Shall Believe) "We're treated to a paradoxical deepening of the Rey/Ren dynamic that shifts the course of the franchise forever." - Playbuzz "We can see that thin line between love and hate begin to crumble" - Julia Alexander, Polygon    "ROMANTIC TENSION BETWEEN REY AND MY NAUGHTY NEPHEW" - UNCLE LUKE TELLS IT AS IT IS    REYLO - 'INCEPTION' STYLE  Rian Johnson: "You're a Reylo fan? That's awesome! It's all in the movie."   The Reylo Relationship is To Be Continued...  SIT TIGHT WITH US FOR STAR WARS: EPISODE IX    DAISY RIDLEY: "I think he is redeemable. He does the right thing, in order to help her. He does think that what he's doing is the right thing." REY'S VISION in 'The Force Awakens'...        HISHE  ♥ Previous Threads: #1: "So you're the girl I've heard so much about." | #2: "Don't be afraid. I feel it, too." #3: "You need a teacher. I can show you the ways of the force." | #4: "You have Compassion for her." #5: "He believed the girl was all we needed." | #6: "It IS you." #7: Rey: "I'm not giving you anything." Kylo: "We'll see." | #8: "It's just us now. Han Solo can't save you" - Kylo #9: Because they've seen into each others minds. | #10: You're something beautiful, a contradiction, I want to play the game, I want the friction #11: "Rey and Kylo are almost two halves of our protagonist". | 12: "There's that romantic tension between Rey and my naughty nephew Kylo." - Mark Hamill 13: "It’s a real relationship, this love-hate bond between two offspring of the old world.” - AV Club | #14: "Join me... Please" is this trilogy's "I know." - Arthur Chu #15: "The push and pull plays out like a seduction, and their palpable chemistry makes it work." - The New Paper | #16: "#Reylo is #goals. A Gordian knot of Strange Loops, braided, intertwined, and inseparable." - Jstor Daily #17: When An Unstoppable Force Meets An Immovable Object. (Joker - The Dark Knight) | #18: “It’s 'The Godfather' shot of the door closing between Michael and Kay.” – Pablo Hidalgo #19: I was standing... You were there. Two worlds collided and they can never tear us apart. (INXS) | #20: "If he doesn't end up in Rey's arms by the end of IX, I will sue." - Tom Shone #21: "Rian wanted this incredible intimacy and this cascading, twinkling waterfall of sparks" - Ben Morris | #22: "The best and most sorely missed chemistry in the series since “Empire.”" - Blake Howard #23: As if she could actually reach out and touch his hand, his face, his hair. {TLJ novel} | #24: At the sight of him she'd felt relief surge through her. #25: "Those fingers touching. It's the closest thing we'll get to a sex scene in a Star Wars movie." - Rian Johnson | #26: "You opened yourself to the Dark Side, for a pair of PRETTY EYES!" - Luke #27: "Luke should be the one nurturing Rey, and it's actually Kylo that is." - Daisy Ridley | #28: They stood amid the smoke & carnage, gasping for breath, then looked at each other. Rey's eyes were filled with joy #29: "Enough with the virtual sex in the next movie, please let them ****" - LaineyGossip | #30: "You're Not Alone." "Neither Are You." #31: "Can you see my surroundings? I can't see yours... Just you." | #32: "One of the most beautifully twisted declarations of love ever uttered in a family blockbuster" - Brogan Morris __________________
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To the casual observer, I'm sure his proposal seemed rooted in Darkness. Whereas Ben/Kylo probably felt it was rooted in a desire to build on their connection.  __________________
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He was definitely trying to create his own path. It's just the ways he's trying to do that. I think that by taking over the FO and basically ruling the galaxy, he is trying to desperately gain some sense of control over his messed up life. But it's certainly not healthy and Rey can't commit to that. __________________
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I would love to see him have a deep conversation with Rey in IX where he finally opens up about this  He began to, in the shirtless scene, but didn't quite get there.__________________
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That may be true too. Honestly, I think that people have a hard time figure out his motivations and what he really wants, because Kylo himself doesn't know that. He does one thing, but then a few moments later, he does something completely unpredictable, that completely contradics it. He is an enigma even to himself. And to Rey btw. Like I said before, Rey is basically us, audience, in this movie. She knows there's good in him, that he is just as alone as she is, but she can't quite figure him out yet. Quote:
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 He can't figure out what he really wants. Snoke has screwed with his mind for the majority of his life. And yes, the more I think about it, the more I agree with you that Rey is just as confused about him as we are. That's why he owes it to her and to himself in IX to pull himself together once and for all. Quote:
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I'm just so curious where will JJ take him in the beginning of IX. Because, honestly, thanks to his unpredictability, it can be almost anywhere. On the other, I'm sure he'll be miserable and longing for Rey no matter what. Quote:
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 but it depends on the potential time jump. If it was soon after VIII, I'd say Ben would still be miserable, but if it's further than that, he could be more focused in his Kylo persona.Quote:
Perhaps with Rose, like we talked about in the Finn/Rose thread. It could be easier to do that because Rey doesn't know her very well. She just knows that Finn trusts Rose, which should be enough. __________________
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Yeah, that's true, I think that we might see him putting on that "metaphorical" mask again and pretend like everything is fine. Quote:
Well, definitely not with Poe. It could be with Rose, but I honestly don't want it to be anyone. I want him to be her dirty little secret till they find out by accident somehow. __________________
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