Star Wars - Starwars - Episode III Spoilers #2 - Cause we already know what's going to happen - Page 2

**Cryostar** · 10-19-2003, 07:21 AM

We will see the twins in episode 3, we'll see them being born. Supposedly, Padme doesn't die from the injuries that Vader inflicts, but the injuries cause her to die while she gives birth. Of course she's giving birth because she's dying already. Now there are two parts of this filmed, one where she dies, and one where she doesn't.

Apparently the dooku and anakin fight will be a gorefest as well, they're mentioning more chopped off limbs. Oh this is going to be SOOOO good.

LittleMilkJug · 10-19-2003, 09:26 AM

You cant beat a chopped off limb or two [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

**Cryostar** · 10-19-2003, 02:49 PM

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You cant beat a chopped off limb or two [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

How about three. Apparently, he may only have his other arm left as real by the end.

Drcy · 10-19-2003, 04:41 PM

I am praying that Lucas keeps Padme alive, but Vader/Ani doesnt know it. Having him think he killed her seems more tragic than him actually doing it IMO.

Lucas is wanting to keep this PG so those limbs can't be to bad. Although I won't be mad if he comes out with a DVD with more mature content if he is trying to keep the theatre parts PG.

Damn this is going to take forever.

Stupid time.

**Cryostar** · 10-20-2003, 05:40 AM

I'm with you wanting to have padme not die. It is way more tragic, especially if the last thing she sees is Obi Wan taking care of business. Both think that the other is dead, yet both live.

As for the PG rating, I've been told that it will be very hard, and I stress that for Lucas to maintain PG. He's supposedly going to try and use his reputation and the reputation of the starwars series to try and get him that PG rating, but he may have to buck up, if he wants anakin to look the way he does before he becomes vader, and take the PG-13 rating.

And for news of the weird....
www.darkhorizons.com/news.htm

Head down to monday's news if it's not already on there, and check out the section for episodes 7-9.

Apparently there are preliminary plans with spielberg asking to direct so lucas doesn't get to tired.

How I hope this could be true....hope hope hope....

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Paul · 10-22-2003, 10:17 AM

How can Padm� die during childbirth, when Leia clearly states that she remembers her mother in Return of the Jedi? You can't really change something major like that.

**Cryostar** · 10-24-2003, 06:14 AM

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How can Padm� die during childbirth, when Leia clearly states that she remembers her mother in Return of the Jedi? You can't really change something major like that.

And while everyone and their mothers (pun intended [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]) agree with us on this, the rumor is that Leia isn't remembering her mother, but someone else, either one of the handmaidens of Padme or Bail Organa's wife. Sad, but sad for a different reason. Everyone knows that there are going to be huge plot holes though.

Big spoilers yesterday:

Anakin apparently beheads dooku after disarming him, litterally.

Theforce.net has the episode summaries up for the clone wars cartoons.

episode-x, jedinet and tbones have formed a spoiler ring for our benefit, www.episode-x.com for your enjoyment.

Yoda versus Palpatine

As items continue to develop in Episode III Yoda attains part of what seems to be a Sith book (perhaps on Kashyyyk). Yoda states that he must "go and meditated on what is to come" at the Temple. He is then faced with confronting Palpatine/Sidious in the Jedi Temple. Apparently Yoda is meditating in the Jedi Temple regarding the Sith and Palpatine enters. The two masters fight, and Palpatine eventually gets the best of Yoda, having opened up a huge can of whoop arse on the green master.

The details are few and far between on this scene, and how exactly Yoda attains the book parts, but chances are the meditation is what leaves Yoda vunerable to such a butt kicking by Palpatine.

Droid Reinforcement Camps

The planet Utapau contains mines which were originally reported by some sources to be droid factories. However, the so-called factories are actually reinforcement camps or base camps that allow for the dispersement of additional droid armies or droid army regrouping. Utapau, aka the 'sinkhole planet' is apparently a planet that natives build homes in the sides of rock walls (American Indian influences anyones? How about Pueblos? Get the picture?). Apparently the Jedi Ki-Adi Mundi and Plo Koon investigate this planet and report into the Jedi Council via hologram. The action for Ki-Adi and Plo Koon tends to heat up after this scene, and it greatly affects their role in the film.

In addition to the above, the rest of this is purely speculation, as it appears that Ki-Adi and Plo Koon may die on Utapau while investigating the droid reinforcement areas. Their deaths are seen on screen, yet the exact location has yet to be noted, however the scenes on Utapu provide an excellent opportunity for the two Jedi to die following their report back to the Council.

A Fallen Friendship

As the Clone Wars progressed the Clone Troopers had begun to gain a subtle bit of personality through all the battles and missions. One trooper inparticular becomes friends with Obi-Wan Kenobi, and has apparently fought with Kenobi on multiple occassions throughout the Clone Wars. During one battle scene in Episode III (on the planet which Bruce Spence's alien race inhabits) a clonetrooper (who may be portrayed by Tem Morrison) hands Kenobi his lightsaber (may have been dropped or lost during hand to hand combat). Upon handing Kenobi the saber the Trooper's face loses all expression and he raises his weapon towards the Jedi in an attempt to kill him. As the trooper raises the weapon, Kenobi is forced to take the life of the Clone trooper, thereby ending the relationship that had developed over the course of the war.

The scene may or may not be emotional enough for the audience, however, the audience might be able to put two and two together if the following items are also correct.

As previously mentioned the trooper might be Morrison, who may have shared an earlier scene with Kenobi in which the trooper had his helmet off. It appears that the troopers are continuing to age, thus the obvious use of Morrison to portray the aging clones.

Report: Droids New and Old

Aside from the notes on Darth Grevious that have been posted at T'Bone's Star Wars Universe and at Episode-X.com, there is a bit more to be stated about the droids that may appear in Episode III. Read on:

Grevious' Body Guards: Droids with unique shield weapons that are capable of blocking Jedi attacks. These shields have been designed with the intention of blocking saber attacks from Jedi Knights.

Jedi Hunter Droids - Droids that have shields capable of protecting them from most lightsaber attacks, the shielding can be compared to the shielding on the Theed Generator Complex's doors that Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan had to travel through in order to combat Darth Maul in TPM. These droids reportively ambush a squadron of Jedi Knights in the opening sequences of the film. The catch is that the Jedi Squadron members are flying TIE-type fighters. (Note: For those of you who are a bit slow, the droids should be in fighters)

Battle Droids - We see very few this time around

Destroyer Droids - Aka Droideka's - we've seen this guys before.

Super Battle Droids - 'Nuff said.

Spider Droids - Perhaps a revisitation on concepts that were developed for Episode II and tossed in favor of the larger Dwarf Spider Droids that the Confederacy of Independent Systems used during the Battle of Geonosis.

Aside from the notes given above, Darth Psychotic added that the droid body count in Episode III is considerably higher than any droid body count we've seen yet in the first two films.

Unfriendly Emmissary:

After choosing to side with Palpatine (following the entire Mace Windu ordeal), Anakin is sent on missions with clonetroopers to assassinate Jedi. One such missions leads them to the lobby of the Jedi Temple, where they ambush some Jedi - including Younglings.
Footage of the attack is recorded and later reviewed by Yoda and Obi-Wan after they�ve returned to Coruscant. This seems to be the moment when they realize Anakin has turned, and Obi-Wan is very aware that he needs to put a stop to his wayward apprentice.

The reviewed footage seems to be George�s means to imply the Younglings� death without showing it onscreen.

That's it for now, but I think we all need to digest it first.

Paul · 10-24-2003, 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by Cryostar:
And while everyone and their mothers (pun intended [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]) agree with us on this, the rumor is that Leia isn't remembering her mother, but someone else, either one of the handmaidens of Padme or Bail Organa's wife.

I think if that happened it would be a bit crap. I mean, that's just like changing the plotline of Episode 6 just because you want Episode 3 to be more exciting. I can only hope it's not true.

**Cryostar** · 10-25-2003, 07:23 AM

Like I said...we all think it's stupid too. I think it would make one of the biggest plot wholes to ever grace a movie screen...but then again, it's lucas. The same guy that authorized like 5 comic series and 40 books before making another movie, and when he went against the books of the expanded universe, said I never said the books were cannon. He does what he wants, when he wants, because he's the flanneled one. You know?

Paul · 10-25-2003, 08:06 AM

Well, I didn't know he was "the flanneled one", but yes, I know he does what he wants.

However, I don't really blame him for saying that the Extended Universe isn't canon, since it's his story after all. I mean, I'm sure there are conflicts within the EU itself, since it's got so large and complex, so he can't really decide against following a plotline in his movie just because a book disagreed with it. Remember there are a lot of people who've never read anything from the EU.

But yeah, the Padm� thing does sound naff. But then again, he's making a movie, so he may feels it's necessary to make it more gripping. Whatever.

SpySyd · 10-25-2003, 08:44 AM

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I think if that happened it would be a bit crap. I mean, that's just like changing the plotline of Episode 6 just because you want Episode 3 to be more exciting. I can only hope it's not true.

I so agree.That'd be ridiculous to change that plotline from ep 6... [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

There are rumours about Spielberg directing SWIII?????Man,that would rock so much...

**Cryostar** · 10-25-2003, 06:56 PM

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I so agree.That'd be ridiculous to change that plotline from ep 6... [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

There are rumours about Spielberg directing SWIII?????Man,that would rock so much...

I say the parting show should be padme, barely recovered, holding leia on Alderaan, with Beru, holding luke on Tatooine. Like split screen.

Lucas is directing Episode III, but there are rumors that Lucas would think of letting spielberg take on ep 7-9, and he'll just write the stories, like he did for the first trilogy.

SpySyd · 10-26-2003, 01:23 AM

So,there would be more than 6 SW movies?I would so like that but...I don't really believe it will happen...

**Cryostar** · 10-27-2003, 06:23 AM

I don't either, yet the rumors persist. Spielberg's been wanting to get his hands on them for a while now, might be good if George lets him.

Although, it will take quite a log to get Harrison Ford to be Han Solo again.

Baby Wyatt Matthew Halliwell · 10-28-2003, 08:02 PM

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I say the parting show should be padme, barely recovered, holding leia on Alderaan, with Beru, holding luke on Tatooine. Like split screen.

Lucas is directing Episode III, but there are rumors that Lucas would think of letting spielberg take on ep 7-9, and he'll just write the stories, like he did for the first trilogy.

i have read some books that are based after ep 6 maybe even ep 8.
it will be cool to see all 9 films made.

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