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Old 01-01-2018, 12:52 PM
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yeah I hope both Adam and Mark get recognized for their work in TLJ
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Old 01-02-2018, 08:39 AM
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I thought that this was pretty funny:

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They were probably waiting for Episode IX to do the big Mother/Son reunion stuff but obviously with Carrie's passing, that won't be on the cards.
Yes, there was an article in Vanity Fair how IX was supposed to be Leia's but now


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Part of the reason why Ben Solo is now Kylo Ren is because he felt personally abused by a family member, so this seems kind of ironic.
That is ironic. I don't remember Ben saying that.


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I feel like the only person on the internet who felt that Luke Skywalker's character was respected in this movie.

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I just firmly feel that Luke would never have gone into exile in the first place. Even if he felt guilty and responsible he wouldn't abandon his sister and best friend in such a dire time. He'd stick around and fight back.

The Force projection was awesome. I agree there. I felt his last words were more like, "My Force ghost is going to visit you."

I can't even remember that line from Max von Sydow's character. I only saw TFA twice in 2015.

You can see how much I am not that into the sequel trilogy. I didn't even bother to do a rewatch before TLJ.

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1) Adam Driver's performance is top-notch Oscar worthy, in my opinion. Hope he is recognized at the Golden Globes, too. The incredibly layered performance he gives in this dual personality of Kylo Ren and Ben Solo is MESMERIZING and I'm proud that we have such a talented actor who was chosen to play both the lead villain and Han and Leia's son.
I would be very surprised if TLJ gets any nominations outside of special effects. There is a bias against Sci-Fi / Fantasy in the awards community. It is so, so rare for this genre to get nominated for the acting and best picture categories.

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I actually liked the scene so I don't see the issue people have with it, however TLJ was filmed, obviously, while Carrie was still alive and they've said they changed none of Leia's scenes in the editing room after Carrie's death, so I don't see how anything could be related to honoring her in TLJ other than the post-credit screen
I heard the same thing, that nothing was changed
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^Yeah sadly sci-fi/fantasy tends to get snubbed at these awards
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I thought that this was pretty funny:

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I saw that yesterday and loved it.
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It's pretty great
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^Yeah sadly sci-fi/fantasy tends to get snubbed at these awards
Very true...but there has been precedence for actors being nominated...so...
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“Star Wars: The Last Jedi” has surpassed 2008’s “The Dark Knight” and 2016’s “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story” to become the sixth-highest domestic grosser of all time, with $539.4 million after 19 days.
‘Star Wars: The Last Jedi’ Surpasses ‘Rogue One,’ ‘Dark Knight’ – Variety
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Glad it's doing so well at the box office! I am sure this has been discussed before but I'm a little late to the party

I enjoyed this movie a lot. I will definitely see it again when it come out on DVD. The only thing I didn't like was all the parallels between characters. I feel like a big portion of the movie was just a repeat of the original trilogy with new characters. But it definitely didn't stop me from enjoying the movie.

Luke became Obi-Wan. Luke isolated himself away from everyone and stopped being a Jedi because of Ben turning (although Luke took it to more of an extreme) the way that Obi-wan Isolated himself after Anakin Turned. Luke also ended up taking on Kylo and sacrificing himself so that Rey and the resistance could get away much the same way that Obi-wan died fighting Vader so Luke could get away.

Kylo is Anakin. Crazy fit of rage where they destroy lots of stuff like kindergartners. Kylo killed his master to save Rey the same that Vader killed the Emperor or save Luke.

Emperor = Supreme Leader Snoke. They both tried to convert the new Jedi to the dark side and both were unable to see the feelings that their head Jedi for the Jedi they were torturing and they both died.

Rey is OT Luke - she saw good in Kylo and decided to go to Kylo to save him just as Luke as good in Vader and went to save him. Neither had finished their Jedi training before going up again the leader of the dark side.


I know there were difference in the stories but the cores remained the same. Rey wasn't completely able to save Kylo but she did set the stage for his future salvation.

I am sure this isn't where the writers are going but it kind of reminded me of the Matrix trilogy in that the general storyline just keeps repeating with different players. The difference with Neo is that he was in love with Trinity and that is why he choose a different path than his predecessors did. The Oracle arranged everything because she felt the outcome needed to be different. Much like the Force wants a different outcome - one that balances good and evil. It made me think that maybe the story will play out differently this time because Kylo is in love with Rey. But than again probably not since Anakin was in love with Padme and still went to the dark side.

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That's definitely a valid complaint, but I also think it was all done intentionally. I think this is all about the cycle repeating itself and that the point is to hopefully stop the cycle.
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Its a hard movie cause there's both sides of stuff its easier to go on a neutral opinion
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Awesome post with the parallels! I can see all of that, however like it's been said,I think it's about different outcomes. If you look at the OT and the prequels, there are parallels but very different endings. I think this time around we're due for a happy ending like the OT had, or at least I hope so, since this is supposed to be the last film about the Skywalkers.
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I saw a post on tumblr (I think? ) where the person pointed out that the OT ended in light, the PT ended in dark, and they think that the ST will end in balance between the two.
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Yeah I am sure you guys are right. Which is why it reminded me of the Matrix because the same cycle kept repeating until it was finally broken by Neo. Hopefully this cycle will be broken in the final movie
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