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Old 03-19-2018, 02:38 PM
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That's so true. If they told him everything about Anakin's redemption the way they were supposed to...he wouldn't have looked up to Vader so much

And he would have a great awareness that you can have Light and Dark within you without having to be defined by a Side. You can still CHOOSE to be a good person, and not allow yourself to be controlled forever in that way that Palpatine controlled Anakin and Snoke controlled Kylo.
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Old 03-20-2018, 03:41 AM
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Yeah. Maybe some deeper conversations around the dinner table would've been helpful
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Yeah. Maybe some deeper conversations around the dinner table would've been helpful

It seems that this family talked behind each other's backs more than they talked to each other's faces
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Old 03-21-2018, 03:48 AM
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Yeah Maybe Ben turning into Kylo wasn't completely unavoidable, but maybe it wouldn't have gone so far if they talked more.
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Yeah Maybe Ben turning into Kylo wasn't completely unavoidable, but maybe it wouldn't have gone so far if they talked more.

Kylo's memories of how Han and Leia perceived him as a young Ben Solo, from Jason Fry's TLJ novel, pg 82 -


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They were frightened of him, he realized. And so they got rid of him, sending him away to his Uncle Luke - whose betrayal would prove far worse.


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That is just so sad
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That is just so sad

People who think that Ben betrayed his parents' trust and didn't appreciate them seriously need to read the novel. It fills in the blanks during Leia and Kylo's memories of how things actually were, or how he perceived them to be.
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Imagine realizing your parents are terrified of you
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Imagine realizing your parents are terrified of you

He really viewed it that way due to several restless nights overhearing their concerns.


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Conversations about the anger and resentment that had boiled over once again in their son.
Conversations in which they talked about him as if he wasn't their son, but some kind of monster.
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That is just...no child can go through that and be normal...
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This is an interesting theory, but Ben was still Ben when the assassination happened. And also how would he know where and the exact moment to deliver the message
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Interesting. At least we know how the mask got to Kylo.


Btw, did you know that Ben didn't know about Anakin being Darth Vader?. He found out when he was an adult. Leia and Han didn't tell him


It's from the Bloodline book by Claudia Gray.
Well that was stupid! :face_palm:

Like, WTF!

Well, now grandpa Anakin should show up and set him right!

That was an interesting video. I think all the clues are pointing to Kylo. They just got to fill in the blank spaces.
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Thanks for that video, very interesting....
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I love those Brian's drawings
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