a new hope

Don't worry I think other posters here like it.

sum1

I think the only good Spock is Nimoy. I think Quinto failed utterly in the role. I didn't like seeing Spock recast anymore than I'm going to like seeing Han recast for the Han prequel movie.

a new hope

sum1

a new hope

That's me watching you two talk about something I have no knowledge of

sum1

You have knowledge of Han being recast.

a new hope

Ah yes, which I hate. But I can't comment on Star Trek.

Static Waves

Add me pls!

sum1

Added.

Musickat18

It'll be super weird for Han to be recast. I don't know how they'll ever pull it off. New AU Star Trek didn't bother me, but I've never watched TOS.

AlexEvans

I like the casting in both Trek and Wars. My problem with Trek is that real Trek has always been on TV - that's where you get the exploration of ideas, evolving relationships among the characters, all the stuff that's been at the heart of Trek from the beginning. So the new movie series feels unanchored, somewhat empty, though I enjoy the films for the action and special effects.

I felt Force Awakens did a much better job of capturing the essence of Star Wars. It helps to be operating in the same original medium, and overall I liked the film much better than any of the reboot Trek flicks.

Also, it had Rey. Which helps a lot. And brings my post on topic.

katlicious

casting is definitely JJ's HUGE strength. HUGE. he knows how to gather a cast that has incredible chemsitry plus they fill their roles so well. Everyone in TFA is so spot on, so connected it's really a joy to watch all those character/actor interactions. Extra bonus points for casting Driver over some classic pretty boy a la Pettyfer, who was up for one of the roles, I assume Kylo Ren. I can't see him as either Finn or Poe because he's such a douche and those two roles require genuine sweetness that can't be faked. Anywya, Driver didn't play Kylo Ren as a douche so that's brilliant.

Daisy Ridley is amazing find, exactly the kind of a fresh-faced newcomer that makes movie magic (I know Boyega from Attack the Block so I'm not surprised that he was so great...I was stanning for his casting when he was up for it with some other actors)

a new hope

Agreed 100% I also knew John from other works so I was expecting him to be amazing.

Daisy is a great find for sure, we needed a fresh face, someone who we wouldn't associate with any other character. A famous actress would've ruined that.

katlicious

Amen. As for Rey character, I think she's great but to be quite honest, I'm in love with the character because of her connection with Kylo. I'm just so impressed how she handles that type of a man and their relationship is super intriguing. They are anti-Twilight in that that there's Twilight trope (virginal heroine/pasty faced dark and dangerous predator of a man) but they turn the concept on its head. She holds her own. Gets upper hand. he respects her.Views her as his equal. Doesn't want to change her (Freudian slip about teaching her the Force instead of Dark Side).

I think that we don't see enough relationships like this where female character educates male character how he should treat her. It's either that she totally submits to whatever dark desire of his or SJWs try to enforce a ban on any so-called "problematic pairing". I think that Rey and Kylo are transcending the trope as well as simplistic "love of a good woman changes a bad man". It's clearly a gradual process where her will to stand up for herself and his will to accept her for who she is may lead to mutual understanding.

sum1

I enjoyed the Newer Star Trek movies, but not the recast of Spock, a character utterly dependent one actor's performance in my opinion (Nimoy's). In general, I've been moving away from Trek in recent years and now the new movies are in general more to my taste than traditional Trek.

I have mixed feelings about TFA as Star Wars. It's certainly better Star Wars than the Prequels, but it still doesn't feel like quite the real thing to me.

Rey is good, definitely, but I had hopes she'd be better.