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He's even better view of his "She's the one face" when Rey picks up the lightsaber. So much awe and love awakens?
http://40.media.tumblr.com/cba474d43...sk2o1_1280.jpg other things that I've noticed: KR's facial expression aka "what have I done?" is the same Leia has when she felt that Han was dead. It's just that the movie lingers on her reaction longer. But the first facial expression, trembling lips, eyes widening are the same. Very moving that mother and son resemble each other so much at that moment. KR doesn't block Chewie's blast because he was absent-minded staring down the pit and appeared to not hear Chewie's cry and commotion. When he receives the blast you cna see on his face "what's going on?" like he's getting back to reality. So even though the movie is very subtle about that Han slaying shook him to the core it's there. When explosions start and KR looks up, his facial expression when he sees Rey at the top is: Does he mouths "No"? he looks kind of sad? But when he sees Finn, and they made sure Finn is zoomed a moment before KR's expression changes, it's pure rage. And then, we get this: he appears sweaty and disheveled to Rey and Finn, says the line, Rey is disgusted, says "You are a monster!" His reaction: Yeah, monster remark stung him badly. I don't quite think that he was beating on his wound just to numb the pain. There are always several psychological things going on with KR all the time. Anyway, he never charged first. Rey fired first. Finn charged him first., Rey charged him first. For whatever reason, KR was stalling, didn't attack when he could, when Finn had his back on him while tending to Rey, for example. Last edited by katlicious; 02-01-2016 at 06:39 AM |
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More Rey and Kylo music theme goodness. Reylo community really went full force to de-code this one: http://kylo-rey-all-day-erry-day.tum...hy-theyre-more Last edited by katlicious; 02-01-2016 at 08:30 AM |
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I've been wondering what Kylo meant by "Han Solo can't save you". Was there a time when Han could? I mean in a physical confrontation Ben will always defeat Han, so why does he say that? Is it a reference to Kylo's misguided notion that with Han out the way, he (Kylo) will have nothing holding him back? I don't understand why he ran out into the snow, wounded and with minutes to get off the planet, to unnecessarily confront those two. Was it a death wish, a desire to turn Rey? (frankly - he would be better off if she died as far as Snoke is concerned, why bother cultivating a rival), did he just want his damn light saber. Or did he want to feel invincibly dark with Han out the way. We all agree that Kylo did not want to kill Rey , or Finn for that matter. But seriously, if this was not a movie, best thing Kylo could have done was destroy the Falcon - cut off their escape route.
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Also, there has to be death wish on his part cause bowcaster does serious damage and yet he didn't get medical help but ran off to pick a fight that could bleed him to death. And "I can show you the ways of the Force" = not gonna turn you to the Dark Side. I think that acting conveyed lots of it sufficiently but I do wish they left some stuff less ambiguous. |
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Does anyone else think it is not a coincidence that his two names are so similar KYLO/SOLO and REN/BEN. I tried playing with the letters -anagrams and word searches and what not. Only coherent thing that came out of that is that the word "lonely" is contained in his names. |
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KYLO = sKYwalker soLO
Ren is the name of Knights of Ren so he didn't choose it. It just happens to be similar to Ben. kYlo REn also contains letters that make REY. Good catch on psychopaths and self-preservation. KR has ZERO sense of self-preservation. And not just this fight. dropping the droid for the girl is lack of it. Self-preservation = covering one's ass at all times. KR doesn't do any of it. |
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Since KR was originally called the Jedi Killer and I think some TFA companion book calls him that, I'm wondering why we never heard the nickname in the movies. Too kid-unfriendly? or does he feel about it like Jaimie Lannister feels about King Slayer nickname (though they don't know that he actually saved numerous lives when he slew the Mad King)? mayeb Luke calls him that in VIII?
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I'm not sentimental either cause I see their philosophy as blatant child abuse. Separating young children from their parents = abuse. Forbidding attachment = abuse. Repressing emotions = abuse. Yeah.
BTW, SW did a Princess and a Scoundrel romance and a Slave and a Queen romance but never a Prince and a ????? It has always been women who were royalties and men were of lower social status. And now we have a Prince ( his mom's a royalty so is he) and a Scavenger. C'mon, Disney. Reylo writes itself. |
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I said before, I want peace talks!! And I want Leia to tell Ben that he must give up his place in the succession of Alderaan because the people would never accept him. And then he must say, hell no!! I want my stuff - Alderaan, the Falcon and Grandpa's light saber. I do see Ben as royalty - there is something princely about him. |
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Harrison has a son named Ben which I find funny
To touch on the Han comment he made to Rey, I think he was rambling, too. I mean, I think part of it meant that he was trying to convince himself that killing Han now made him stronger, but he was so out of it, having such impulsive reactions, I don't think he was thinking his words through much. __________________
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he was totally Prince-ly when he took off the mask which I think was exactly what they aimed for. Rey runs into the woods, meets the Prince. They really played fairy tale tropes with those two to the max. Magic sword/lightsaber, dark Prince, woods, fairy godmother, awakening (like Snowhite and Sleeping Beauty). We just need the kiss.
this is a great write-up about glamorizing KR. yeha, totally Prince-ly: Casting and filming choices and reylo - Kylo Rey All Day Erry Day |
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Thanks for the link, I'll check it out after I get home from work
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