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karamel 12-08-2018 05:33 PM

[Episode Discussion] 4x9 - "Elseworlds" Crossover - December 9th - 11th 2018
 
Season 4, Episode 9
"Elseworlds" Crossover
Episode Discussion
original air date, Sunday December 8th to 11th 2018




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Part I: When Barry Allen (Grant Gustin) and Oliver Queen (guest star Stephen Amell) wake up one morning and realize they have swapped bodies with each other, the two set off to find out what disturbed the timeline to cause such a shift. However, things quickly go from bad to worse when they present their case to Team Flash and the gang doesn’t believe them. Barry and Oliver realize they need Supergirl’s (guest star Melissa Benoist) help and travel to Smallville on Earth-38 where they end up meeting Kara’s cousin, Clark Kent (guest star Tyler Hoechlin), and intrepid reporter, Lois Lane (guest star Elizabeth Tulloch). LaMonica Garrett guest stars as The Monitor.

Part II: With Oliver (Stephen Amell) and Barry (guest star Grant Gustin) still stuck in the other’s bodies, the two get a lead on John Deegan (guest star Jeremy Davies) and head to Gotham City with Supergirl (guest star Melissa Benoist) to figure out why their reality has changed. While there, they meet the mysterious Kate Kane (guest star Ruby Rose) who provides them with information that leads the group to Arkham Asylum.

Part III: Supergirl (Melissa Benoist), The Flash (guest star Grant Gustin), Green Arrow (guest star Stephen Amell) and Superman (guest star Tyler Hoechlin) engage in the battle of their lives.

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canflam 12-10-2018 01:28 PM

Well, did you guys watch yesterday? I did see it. I will point out that I do not tend to watch ''Arrow'' or ''The Flash'', so I didn't know about Oliver being a ''jerk''. Apparently he is though. Oh well I guess. I didn't mind this episode. It was quite odd though. The eavesdropping of Supergirl on Oliver & Barry I could've done without seeing. Her superhearing is just not something I'm a fan of. It was also annoying that Barry & Oliver's friends I guess they are or co-worked didn't believe them when they were told about the switch. Curious to see what happens tonight on ''Arrow''.

Logan 12-11-2018 10:32 AM

Cam I dont watch Arrow but that has been his character.
Supergirl and Batwoman nice pair .duo .. i felt some sexual tension between the two . We know Kate Kane is a gay woman ,, Melissa had said in a few interviews how happy she was to have another powerful female , quickly mentioned kati lutz legends of tomorrow role as a bad ass .

Sunday night was the flash tonight is Supergirl

canflam 12-11-2018 06:49 PM

Interesting. I didn't see yesterday's ''Arrow'' episode as it the Vikings/Seahawks game was on yesterday as well & I just forgot about ''Arrow''. How was it if you saw?

Elektra 12-11-2018 07:49 PM

- Ugh… crazy doctor gets the intro?

- So there IS an Alex Danvers on Earth 1

- GARY! What are you doing bartending? Doesn’t the Time Bureau pay you enough?

- The Danvers sisters always have the best scenes, even if one is an alternate version

- This episode of Supergirl is spending a lot of time on Superman and Oliver.

- Couldn’t Barry just phase himself out of Fake!Supes’ headlock?

- I LOVE that Brainy kicked Amazo’s ass BY HIMSELF when it took a whole bunch of heroes to do it before! Give me more bad-ass Brainy… and Long live the Legion!

- Lois is pregnant! Bring on Jonathan Samuel Kent!

Lois and Clark are heading to Argo for a bit is a good way to excuse Superman from being around for the rest of the season… but I need Kara to meet Jon when he’s born.

- So… did Oliver make a deal with the Monitor where Barry and Kara get to die NEXT year instead of THIS year? Crisis on Infinite Earths saw the end of both Supergirl and Barry Allen in the comics.

- I need a Superman spinoff with Lois, Clark, and Jon please, CW.

comic fan 12-11-2018 08:24 PM

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So… did Oliver make a deal with the Monitor where Barry and Kara get to die NEXT year instead of THIS year? Crisis on Infinite Earths saw the end of both Supergirl and Barry Allen in the comics.
I think the deal is that Oliver is going to die in their place.

Arrow is probably closer to it's end than The Flash and Supergirl.

SA said he told the showrunners not to hold back anything and approach season 7 as if it were going to be its last season(that doesn't mean it has to be.).

I could see season 7 of Arrow being the last season and wrapping things up in Crisis on Infinite Earths for the character.

Or Arrow coming back for a limited season 8 run leading into COIE.

Or Arrow continues with the new Green Arrow as the lead.I won't spoil who it is for those who don't watch Arrow but it is a character from the Green Arrow comics.

Or,none of the above and I'm way off base.lol

I love all the Arrowverse shows and would hate to lose any of them.But at this point,the thought of losing Supergirl and/or The Flash would hurt worse(and Legends) since they are all a few seasons behind Arrow.

Arrow is the oldest show..Plus if Batwoman goes forward,that could replace Arrow as the ground level superhero show of the Arrowverse(Black Lighting hasn't joind yet).

wickedrum 12-12-2018 10:24 AM

the customary Superman vs Superman but in a different way!

scififan2009 12-13-2018 07:05 AM

The politics and alien hate currently happening on Supergirl right now was getting kind of heavy.

It was nice to get a break from that for this episode. It’s good that Kara was able to get away from it all.

obisgirl 12-13-2018 05:20 PM

I'm not normally a fan of these crossovers. Last season, we had two crossover events, and it's just too much sometimes. But I actually liked this one. I liked meeting this version of Lois. I wish we had more of her.

I watched the last bit on the bus this morning on my iphone and seriously fangirled when Clark proposed to Lois at the fortress, and they're expecting a baby! Super baby!!

I also totally got Operation Mongoose vibes while watching the last hour. (Once).

canflam 12-17-2018 05:38 PM

It seems like if you're Superman you probably already have enough in life to deal with, but I guess having a kid could go well for them.

Anyway, I finally finished watching this crossover yesterday & here are the things I noticed. Most of which seemed odd.

Oliver thought Batman is a myth, but knows that Sugergirl & Superman exist. You can judge for yourself what is more believable. I think it's more believable that there is a crime fighter that dresses up as a bat than it is that aliens can pose as humans & have incredible abilities such as the annoying hearing through walls. When I heard Kara remind I think it was Oliver of her super hearing that just annoyed me. It seems like if someone had that ability it would be wise to keep it to his or herself.

Moving on. Early in the first episode of this crossover the cops showed I think less than 5 seconds after there were gunshots during the day. That was also strange. How does that happen unless they were shooting guns right by a police station? Odd.

On part 3 of ''Elseworlds'' I wonder if ''Superman' or the evil version of him would have let those kids die towards the beginning of that episode what the rest of the show would have been like. Thankfully he didn't let them die, though.

Also that darker version of Alex where she wasn't herself said to Supergirl ''The only way out is in a casket.'' So that begs the question, do they have caskets just laying around? Geez. I think if I was Supergirl & someone said that to me I'd comeback with a smart-ass response.:lol: What a strange thing to say to someone.

I wonder if all criminals hangout at the same bar as was apparent on this episode in I guess it was Central City. I forget what city they were in.

Finally, Bizarro was mentioned I think by a lady on this episode, though I don't remember who said it. It was on part 3, but that did make me think of how amazing this show would be if Bizarro &/or Bizzaro-Girl were on ''Supergirl''. It would be nonstop hilarity.


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