Chris

Honestly, I didn't care much for the character either. But it would be a plausible way to see Brent Spiner involved in the movie. Just a scene or two would be nice.

Chris

Just watched "The Measure of a Man". Totally terrific episode questioning what it takes to be considered more than an object. Picard's closing arguments were awesome.

crazy_diamond

Great end scene with Picard , good eppy

Chris

Very. I don't generally like Pulaski, but I think her speaking of Data as an object/machine, helped the other crew realize that they considered Data to be much more than that.

crazy_diamond

Exactly

lyb42

Found this in my Facebook feed and thought I'd share:

Star Trek One Trek Mind #13: Top 10 Data Moments

crazy_diamond

Thanks for the link Martin

Brent's birthday was yesterday..

Chris

I hope he enjoyed his birthday.

Thanks for the link Martin.

The rest of the crew reacting to Data with a beard was just hilarious.

Kudos to the writers for that "Ode to Spot" - I can't imagine that it was easy to come up with something so convoluted.

crazy_diamond

Especially as Brent didn't like the cat

sum1

A punk? I don't remember him having spiked hair, rings in his nose and wearing black leather.

Spiner did a very good job with Soong in Enterprise. I'd be happy to see the character again. Or any of his descendants.

lyb42

Interestingly, Punk - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary lists your usage of punk dead last (though, admittedly, it doesn't show my intended usage at all). The closest Merriam Webster gets to what I had in mind is probably 3b: "a usually petty gangster, hoodlum, or ruffian." I definitely did not intend definition 1!

Anyway, to amend my assessment to a more correct verbiage, "Arik Soong was an ass."

Happy?

Chris

Martin - punk - the definition you can understand
Is how I'd usually use that word, and what I took as your meaning.

Really? I didn't know that.

It would be cool if they could come up with a plausible way to get Spiner as Soong in the new movie.

sum1

You're both on a different side of the Atlantic from me and Merriam-Webster is an American dictionary. Words have different usages on different sides of the Atlantic. You'll note, though, that even the second dictionary sort of lists my definition -see the examples they give. My definition of "punk" is what I grew up with. I never heard the other definition until recent times.

Spiner should appear in future Trek film(s) somehow, though maybe not as an overweight Data.

Chris

Very true sum. Words can even take on different usages in different parts of the same country. And yes, your definition was the second example at the site I used.

Not sure that I'd want to see Spiner as Data. Although I suppose he could be a distant future Data, who decided to age himself to fit in better in order to explain his natural aging.

I think I'd prefer to see him as Soong, if they do decide to use him.

lyb42

Yup That or one of Soong's forebears...