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Old 01-28-2012, 05:46 AM
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Good Points.

I love that Buffy quote seems like forshadowing.

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I like the quote too. It was really as if she felt deep inside that it's possible.

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It reminds me how she tells Riley if she wanted to date a guy with super powers that she would be dating Spike.

It's like deep down she really felt something for him.

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Yeah, I remember when I watched her saying it to Riley I thought that one day she will have to eat her words, because I felt that something was coming between her and Spike

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Yeah I remember think that too.

That was totally a freudian slip.

It's funny how they went from I hate you to I love you. Back then you just never would have seen it coming.

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Yeah, I think it was definitely a foreshadowing and I think Buffy was attracted to Spike just as much as he was intrigued by her from the start.

Funny how many stories that start with hate and end with love don't work naturally, but Joss made it work.
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All true.

I love that Joss even says Spuffy evolved naturally. It was recently he said it again. I read it on Tumblr.

I've read in the past where he says that he realized it was happening all along. That is good writing when you let your self go where the characters have taken you.

I think the fact that a lot of fans wanted them together after SB helped and that SMG/JM wanted Spuffy So bad but still Joss could have ignored all that. In an interview with SMG she said she suggested Spuffy to him and Joss said No more vampires.

Is it weird that art with Spike down on his knees makes me think of him proposing?

I love that Spike really did in SB and was the closest man to ever marry Buffy.
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Yes, I love the natural evolation and progression of their relationship. I love that Joss probably came up with the idea of them romantically at some point throughout the series, but saw that the potential was there all alone and that something was building up and he just gave it a chance to bloom and develop so naturally and beautifully. That is what I call good writing.

He made Spuffy actually overcome their issues and become stronger. He didn't brush the dark aspects of their relationship under the rug, he addressed them and made them WORK through it. He let both characters evolve and he let them reach the level of maturity of their relationship that Buffy/Angel never did imo.
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I wonder if subconiously Joss wrote Spuffy from the start. SMG/JM had chemistry. I do think the characters took on a life of their own. It's just you look back and it's like they were slowly finding each other all along.

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There was So much innuendo and subtext during their first fight scene. It was almost like they were flirting.
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I think what made Joss such a good writer is that he always wrote in a very 3-dementional way. Enemies, friends, lovers, all of it had different sides of the coin and that's why every relationship and even every fight on his show had a subtext. And I think he always thought about many different possibilities for the future, leaving some hints on it.
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Good points. I think I saw it more with Spuffy than any of the others.

Buffy's line No Spike it's gonna hurt a lot seems Prophetic.

I love this vid. I'm now obsessed with this song.

It really shows their love/hate relationship.

Withim Temptation - What Have You Done (Buffy and Spike) - YouTube
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Quote:
Buffy's line No Spike it's gonna hurt a lot seems Prophetic
That's true If only he knew

I'll check up on that vid
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It still blows me away how much unintential build up we got. The real build up wasn't started til Season 5. Even that was done well. Like pretty much everything else of their journey.

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