Couples - Bracelet Buddies {Joey/Chandler} Friends #1: Because they're bracelet buddies. - Page 5

09-01-2004, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by Cress
What was your favorite Joey/Chandler moment or storyline on the show?

Hmm, I have so many. I loved their final scene in TOW Joey Moves Out when Joey comes back in to give Chandler a hug

Dreamer 4 Ever · 09-01-2004, 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by DCreekFreak
Hmm, I have so many. I loved their final scene in TOW Joey Moves Out when Joey comes back in to give Chandler a hug

Awww I love that part too! I like it too when they got the chairs

09-01-2004, 06:03 PM

Oh, yeah!

That was classic!

Cress · 09-01-2004, 08:27 PM

Hi Rivulet! Good to see you around here again. Those are great J/C moments.

Welcome to the new people! If you want to be added to one of the lists, just ask me and specify which list you prefer--shipper or friendship.

09-01-2004, 10:17 PM

Rivulet027 · 09-14-2004, 04:42 PM

another pretty picture

I also liked when they were discussing getting a table together and were all 'are we ready for this'. It had couplish undertones.

09-14-2004, 04:49 PM

Aww...

Cress · 10-25-2004, 01:01 PM

This was forwarded on a slash mailing list that I belong to. I don't agree with the statement that "gay men don't turn me on", but overall the article is good and mentions Joey/Chandler too.

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When Frodo Met Sam

[Illustration: Frodo/Sam from The Theban Band]

It's the ultimate fantasy; your fictional heroes getting down and dirty in a steamy gay clinch. Milly Chen takes a peek at slash fiction.

"It was the end of a long journey, and at last they were alone. Their weary hearts had been forged in fires nobody else could ever feel or understand and there was only one thing left for them to share. The silence was like a living creature, soft and silky, as they leant together, desperate not to misread each other's eyes. Their mouths met, hungry yet unsure, and they stood frozen in the fiery release. At last, Frodo broke away and took the other's
hand, `Come to bed, Sam,' he said."

Blimey. Frodo and Sam? In bed together? Who could write such a thing? Well, thousands of people, actually. Stories of fictional men (or hobbits) getting down and dirty with each other--called "slash fiction", after the slash that separates the names of
the protagonists, as in Frodo/Sam, or the original pairing, Kirk/Spock--are one of the biggest crazes on the internet. Type "slash" into your search engine and you will find purple-prose tales of Legolas enjoying knee-trembling homoerotic clinches with Aragorn, Clark Kent getting jiggy with Lex Luthor, and Starsky
engaged in a bit of sexual detective work with Hutch.

Slash is an offshoot of the Internet craze for fan fiction, amateur stories based on characters from film and television. There are literally millions of them out there, and at least half end up with the male protagonists jumping into bed together.

When I blundered onto a slash website recently (a mistake any late twnetysomething fan of blond elves could have made), I naturally assumed they were written by some lunatic-fringe cult of gay nerds--not that I'm prejudiced, of course. So it came as a shock when my friend Callie, a scary American princess with flicky hair who can quote every line of ER and Dawson's Creek, told me that almost all fan fiction, slash included, is written by bright young heterosexual women. Slash lets them write about relationships without having to deal with traditional sexual power struggles.

I stopped being shocked as soon as I had spent two seconds thinking about it. After all, everyone knows that men re obsessed with lesbians, and magazines from GQ to Playboy celebrate a man's-eye view of the joys of sapphism--a world of lesbians who are eager to experiment with blokes. Women have traditionally kept their fantasies quieter, but why shouldn't we have a little thing about man-on-man action?

Men, for all their good qualities, are visual creatures. The kinky "lesbians" they ogle are all pouting breasts and panting hair. Women want a different kind of fantasy. Female-targeted soft-porn magazines such as Sweet Action, which offers graphic shots of naked men in various states of arousal, fail to push the right buttons. What sells is a more internalised brand of eroticism, one
explored by Catherine Millet's The Sexual Life of Catherine M and the slew of best-selling erotic memoirs that have followed. I'm not saying that the thought of a naked, oily Legolas (for example)
doesn't make me want to pop out to the nearest elf shop, but what really gets women turned on it what is going on between the pointy ears.

This is one reason that slash has met with resistance in gay circles. Kirby Crow, a prolific slash writer, told me she is frequently accused of not understanding gay issues or what men get up to in bed. "Get over yourselves," says Crow. "Gay men do not turn me on." It's not as if gay porn is hard to find. Heterosexual woman enjoy slash primarily for "the intimacy between the male characters."

Callie, who studied modern cultural intimidation at Harvard, matronisingly told me that men are frightened by slash because women use it to take control of men's bodies for their own fun, just as men have been taking control of women's bodies for centuries.

I made my main sole mate, Matt, read some slash. To start with, he was fascinated. "This is written by women?" he asked. "Kinky. I like it. Do you know any of them?" Then Matt got bored. I asked if he found it erotic and he looked at me as if I were crazy. "I mean, it's funny," he said, "But it's rubbish really � all these tortured, unspoken desires and strong men crying. It's just like Mills & Boon, with Batman and Robin instead of Lord Vulcan and Persephone. You don't find it sexy, surely?"

Leaving aside how well Matt seems to know Mills & Boon, I do find it sexy, actually. A lot of it is rubbish, and a lot of it is more graphic than I am comfortable with, but a surprising amount is well written, well observed, funny and genuinely erotic. Matt doesn't find it sexy fro exactly the same reason that I am not turned on by airbrushed bimboes on the front of FHM; it isn't aimed at him.

Now mainstream Internet sites are getting in on the act. Libby Eyres, the editor of Bint, an online magazine for professional women who gets joked about Jane Austin, but also want to know what's happening on Big brother, likes the "secret naughtiness" of reading stories online. She told me that Bint's comic and lurid sex tales are an antidote to traditional male porn; "It's not sexy for women to see pics of buffed-up male models. Read sex is much sexier." While men gaze passively at dirty pictures produced by a few mega-pornographers, women are busy creating a vibrant interactive culture that doesn't depend on anyone being exploited.

I got so excited by all this that I wrote a story of my own. I'm not telling you how to find it (my mother is reading this), but suffice to say that I have always thought Chandler could do better then that annoying Monica, and Joey is obviously repressed. When I saw my story online, I felt a small but genuine thrill of liberation. Maybe Kirk/Spoke really was the final frontier.

The Sunday Times Style magazine July 18 2004

Rivulet027 · 10-28-2004, 04:54 PM

That article was interesting, thanks for posting it.

I have to say I don't agree with a few things, but it was still a nice read.

*Maxi* · 10-28-2004, 08:05 PM

It was an interesting read.

Callalily · 11-06-2004, 09:36 AM

I miss Friends so much!

Rivulet027 · 11-09-2004, 03:12 PM

Could someone tell me what was the name of the episode where Joey finds out his dad is cheating on his mom?

lot of cute J/C scenes in that one.

Cress · 11-09-2004, 03:26 PM

That's The One With the Boobies. (At the beginning of the episode, Chandler saw Rachel topless, and then everybody kept peeping at each other in the shower.)

Rivulet027 · 11-09-2004, 03:39 PM

Oh yes, that one! Should have remembered because of Joey's dad being in the shower.

Thank you!

Rivulet027 · 11-20-2004, 10:30 PM

I wanted to bump this up.

This is one of my fav quotes. It's from TOW the baby on the bus

Chandler: "That's a good plan Joe. Next time we wanna pick up women we should go to the park and make out.

I might have it off a little, but still what a nice image.

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