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And yes, the show has glossed over a lot of the crap Michael has done. IMO, they've done the same thing with Petra. I thought J/M was done after he hurt Mateo, but how wrong I was. I guess Michael solved a lot of his problems off screen. I actually think it's a sign that he's not endgame. The show hasn't explored his character at all. If anything, his character has been reduced from the first season. I see him as just a plot device right now. __________________
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Amy - thanks for sharing your personal Rafael story. What an amazing lesson he taught you. I hope our Rafael gets through Jane's thick skull soon.
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I just see the Villanuevas blind love for Michael as a roadblock for Jane and Rafael's true love. As long as Alba is Team Rafael still, I'll be OK. Disapproval is a classic telenovela trope. So I see that as a point in favor of J/R. __________________
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Alba is not team Rafael. That chapter is closed for now I think.
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You're right probably. They can still have a connection though. I really want that.
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I think Alba is still a fan of Rafael's but has gotten off the Team Rafael train since Jane picked Michael. In the Mother's Day episode, Alba was the only family member they showed interacting with Rafael. I think she congratulated him on buying the Carlisle(?) hotel.
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As a matter of storyline I still don't understand why they don't create a bound between Alba and Rafael? Like there's something to do there since Rafael had this lack of mother love in his life...
They give us so much with Micheal and Rogelio that I really don't understand why we don't have something similar with Rafael... Like he has no friend ( except Petra but I'm not buying this), he barely has a family (Louisa keeps disapointing me). His relationship with his son was neglected in order to make Micheal even more a saint. He actually only has Jane as a true friend. And even her... Pff the more I think about it the more it makes me mad! Anyway... |
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Also you are so right about Rafael not kissing Jane's family's ass and not agreeing with everything she says because Michael totally does, he is nothing but a 'yes man'. By the way I think that Abuela actually like Rafael more for some reason. |
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It makes me angry how they treat Rafael vs. the other characters. And how he gets treated as a father. T-ka made an excellent point about how he was the only character to get PTSD of sorts, but it became about how he wasn't supporting Jane enough. He deserves better. Which is why I'm always pushing for an Alba/Rafael connection. It doesn't have to be about the triangle or shipping. In fact, it would be more meaningful if it wasn't about that. Quote:
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There is no reason to keep Jane's family away from Rafael. He is the father of their grandchild. He's going to be part of the family. It's like they are afraid to do anything positive with Rafael because it hurts their J/M story. They don't have any confidence in J/M because they've been written poorly. Quote:
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From my experience the couples thread here and the one on JTV page will be independent from each other. People typically post on both but one usually gets more traction than the other
I think Alba still prefers Rafael, but she's is also fond of Michael and that's who Jane chose so she embraced it. |
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I totally missed the Alba/Michael stuff. It was probably for the best. Thanks for the info guys. I had no clue. I still think it's funny that Fatima predicted that.
They've been doing Rafael wrong since the middle of Season 1. So I don't expect that to change. I do hope we see more Rafael/Alba interaction. I love what little we do get. As for the threads, I'll probably stick to this one more. I feel comfortable here, and free to express myself. But I'm sure I'll pop in the JTV forum from time to time. Since we've been talking about the sonogram scene, someone giffed it again. It popped up on my dash: x __________________
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